dubsider
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« on: June 14, 2011, 07:38:59 PM » |
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I just got a HondaLine Luggage Rack.. The load limit is 6.6 pounds.. really? 6.6 pounds? is this CYA. I really need to carry LUGGAGE.
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 08:07:13 PM » |
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The entire trunk is only rated for 20lbs, same with the saddlebags, how much are you loading? I've carried considerably more than 20lbs in the bags with no ill effects. It will probably take more, but don't try to complain to them if it cracks the trunk's lid.
It's CYA, but I'm sure folks will chime in with their experiences. Fred.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 09:17:01 PM » |
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Which luggage rack, the one for a Standard/Tourer or the one for an I/S trunk?
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 10:17:07 PM » |
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They'll take alot. I've had a case of diet cokes and two cases of bottled water strapped on it and rode to work with 'em.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2011, 03:55:46 AM » |
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Which luggage rack, the one for a Standard/Tourer or the one for an I/S trunk?
Marty
Standard.. Like the one in BF's picture just above. I want to pack for a trip of 3-4 days .. case of cokes and waters should be good comparison.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2011, 04:19:57 AM » |
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I exceed that weight limit every time I ride my Valk to school.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 04:50:00 AM » |
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I had up to three bags totally loaded down with luggage along with my cycle cover multiple times, once for a 3,000 mile round trip and had no problems.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 06:16:08 AM » |
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what are you doing for 3-4 days that you need more that 10Lbs of crap to take along? 
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 07:12:37 AM » |
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Observation from a redneck engineer. Link to trunk project
 My trunk is a flea-bay third party affair, and the rack started life as a $5.47 wine glass rack at Lowes. So I don't know how much of my experience would apply to an OEM system. However, my concern about the weight limit of the rack was how much the trunk lid could sustain. And here, the problem gets a little less obvious. Every time I put a load on it, the glass trunk lid takes stress. Enough repeated stress will eventually cause it to crack. I may get by with 25 lbs for several trips, but that doesn't mean I haven't seriously weakened the lid. My advice for ,what it's worth, is the stay with the manufacturers recommended limits unless or until you reinforce what ever the rack is mounted to. If the OEM rack simply mount to the OEM trunk lid, you might consider reinforcing the lid with metal. I haven't done that yet to mine, but plan to. If anybody beats me to the punch, I'd appreciate some pics and advice. I'm going to paint it sedona red pearl and cream when I get through dinking with it to match the bike.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2011, 01:25:13 PM » |
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what are you doing for 3-4 days that you need more that 10Lbs of crap to take along?  for me .. maybe an extra pair of shorts... MY WIFE on the otherhand...  OMG.. and a laptop for sure so I can keep up with this Virtual community.. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2011, 04:38:53 PM » |
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Observation from a redneck engineer. Link to trunk project
 My trunk is a flea-bay third party affair, and the rack started life as a $5.47 wine glass rack at Lowes. So I don't know how much of my experience would apply to an OEM system. However, my concern about the weight limit of the rack was how much the trunk lid could sustain. And here, the problem gets a little less obvious. Every time I put a load on it, the glass trunk lid takes stress. Enough repeated stress will eventually cause it to crack. I may get by with 25 lbs for several trips, but that doesn't mean I haven't seriously weakened the lid. My advice for ,what it's worth, is the stay with the manufacturers recommended limits unless or until you reinforce what ever the rack is mounted to. If the OEM rack simply mount to the OEM trunk lid, you might consider reinforcing the lid with metal. I haven't done that yet to mine, but plan to. If anybody beats me to the punch, I'd appreciate some pics and advice. I'm going to paint it sedona red pearl and cream when I get through dinking with it to match the bike. Obviously you chose to ignore dubsider's answer to my question. He was asking about a Standard/Tourer rack that bolts to the passenger backrest NOT an Interstate trunk lid rack. Marty
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 05:34:40 PM » |
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I am curious about this also as taking a two week trip in a couple of months. I have the Tourer. A few months ago I brought home a car battery tied on to it. How much do those weigh, 40 lbs??
has anyone ever had a problem or failure from too much weight? ???
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 06:04:00 PM » |
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Obviously you chose to ignore dubsider's answer to my question. He was asking about a Standard/Tourer rack that bolts to the passenger backrest NOT an Interstate trunk lid rack.
Marty
Yeah, that. OR maybe I just missed that post. Take a flippen chill pill!
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 07:02:04 PM » |
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I made this rack extender from some diamond plate aluminum & stainless hardware.  The Valkyrie rack is capable of carrying well in excess of the recommended 6.6 lbs. Lawyerspeak must be behind the silly weight limits Honda sets. I had to make the rack extender because the big Harley bag flops over the rack & obscures the tail lamp without it. Kim packs that bag with about 35 lbs. of stuff.   BTW, the Harley travel bag was a gift. You didn't think I would spend the $$ for one did ya??! Has a loop that fits perfectly over the Ultimate seat passenger backrest, I don't need to strap it down at all. 
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2011, 07:31:45 PM » |
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Hey Tropic T .. I am digging that mod you have there; very clever.
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011, 07:38:44 PM » |
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Hey Tropic T .. I am digging that mod you have there; very clever.
Thanks! It is easy to install/remove, no tools uses wing nuts. Fits in the saddlebag if you don't want it on after you unload.  Makes a good pizza carrier too!  
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2011, 05:12:26 AM » |
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I just make a L shaped rack support outta plywood. Fits the cooler perfect. Works with my roller luggage to.
The rack can take a load. We haul 12 days worth of clothes, which is not much, leather coats, and helmets, all on the rear rack.
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2011, 05:14:27 AM » |
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I saw this rack mod at the 2010 Hot Springs Rally. Eddie, yours looks at lot better. My HD bud has one similar. His is about 2' sq grille type rack. He then had a heavy canvas tarp made to cover it.
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2011, 05:30:10 AM » |
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I don't know if its the case here, but sometimes when you see a ridiculously low load limit its because they are calculating the max static load it can support when you hit a 3 or 4 g bump. If you always ride smooth roads, you may never have a problem. One day you hit a big bump and the 20 lbs you have on the rack suddenly goes to 80 to 100 lbs and the rack fails. -RP
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2011, 06:02:38 PM » |
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You could most likely carry a Sh*& load of bricks on the luggage rack if you could strap it done good. However, I would think they may be thinking of the adverse affect the added weight may have on the way the bike will handle. Loading 40-50 lbs above the further most top of the rear tire IMHO will have some affect on the traction of the front tire. It would also have some affect on raising the center of gravity as well.
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2011, 06:28:36 PM » |
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You could most likely carry a Sh*& load of bricks on the luggage rack if you could strap it done good. However, I would think they may be thinking of the adverse affect the added weight may have on the way the bike will handle. Loading 40-50 lbs above the further most top of the rear tire IMHO will have some affect on the traction of the front tire. It would also have some affect on raising the center of gravity as well.
Pretty true. It doesn't pull the front tire up any, the Valk has too much total weight for that to happen. But you can feel the center of gravity change. Cross winds hit you a bit more too. You get used to the changes fairly quick.  
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2011, 08:11:32 PM » |
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Made my rack modification about eight years ago. Holds the T-bag level and square. The square tubing the OEM rack is constructed with is hollow. It will break just past the end of the side gusset.    Notches cut in the plate are to allow access for the straps and buckles. I've hauled 20-25 pounds no problem.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2011, 10:10:24 PM » |
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I just got a HondaLine Luggage Rack.. The load limit is 6.6 pounds.. really? 6.6 pounds? is this CYA. I really need to carry LUGGAGE.
In answer to your question. The rack will hold exactly 54.4 lbs. more than it is rated for. .1 lb. more and it will fall off the rear of your Valk and self destruct.
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2011, 01:39:03 AM » |
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You could most likely carry a Sh*& load of bricks on the luggage rack if you could strap it done good. However, I would think they may be thinking of the adverse affect the added weight may have on the way the bike will handle. Loading 40-50 lbs above the further most top of the rear tire IMHO will have some affect on the traction of the front tire. It would also have some affect on raising the center of gravity as well.
Pretty true. It doesn't pull the front tire up any, the Valk has too much total weight for that to happen. But you can feel the center of gravity change. I would strongly disagree with that. I know of an instance in which overloading the luggage rack resulted in diminishing the Valkyrie's front traction resulting in a loss of control.
It was, I should mention, a great deal more than 6 pounds, but a load of bricks would get you there.
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