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« on: June 14, 2011, 08:34:05 PM » |
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Has anyone used this product and have an opinion?
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 09:12:39 PM » |
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I ordered 3 bottles last week for the tires on my I/S.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2011, 04:51:39 AM » |
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My local Honda dealer recently started carrying it and installed it in my front tire for $10. They used it to balance the tire as well and I haven't noticed anything different from before using ride-on. I haven't had to use it's plugging features yet, so I cannot comment on how well it works at plugging a punctured tire.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2011, 05:49:59 AM » |
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I put a bottle of the "auto formula" in my car tire on my Valkyrie.
The "auto" grade is $10 cheaper than buying 2 bottles with 1/2 as many ounces for motorcycles.
The info says in red ink not to use "auto formula" in motorcycles. I'm not sure why, similar tire diameters and presures. Maybe something to do with marketing.
It seems to work well, at least for peace of mind.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2011, 05:56:43 AM » |
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I used quad-boss, much less $$$ and same product IMHO. see my posts from a few wks ago. I even posted the MSD pdf for ride-on and they sell it in different colors, quad boss is one of those colors. Put it in my new conti-go rear tire which is on the front, used the extra amount for balancing, glass smooth on the road. even has the slight vibration at very low speeds that ride-on says will be there until higher rotation spreads it around. was using the beads.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2011, 06:02:35 AM » |
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...........The info says in red ink not to use "auto formula" in motorcycles. I'm not sure why, similar tire diameters and presures. Maybe something to do with marketing..............
This is the answer they gave me...........>>.... Dear Cliff, If your tire was on a trike, then I would suggest you used the Auto Formula. However, if it is on a motorcycle with two wheels, then the motorcycle formula is a better choice. What differentiates are formulations is the application that the product is going to be used in (speed, expected life cycle, tire and wheels materials, operating temperatures etc.). Motorcycles normally accelerate much faster than cars and their tires are also used for cornering. The motorcycle formula is designed to spread faster and react to an injury faster. Most motorcycle tires last less than 30,000 miles and in fact many people are lucky to get 20,000 miles. Car tires can be expected to easily go twice as far. The choice is yours. Again, in your application with a car tire on a motorcycle you could easily go either way.Sincerely, Mark Farkhan Inovex Industries, Inc. 45681 Oakbrook Court Unit 102 Sterling , Virginia 20166 U.S.A.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 06:05:13 AM » |
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I'm in my second year of having Ride-On in both my Interstate tires. I haven't noticed any negatives regarding balance, messing up my tire pressure sensors, etc. It works for me so far.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 01:17:37 PM » |
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i did an experiment with metzler tires
The tire with the ride on in it ran much further without cupping.
And of course its nice not to worry about flat tires.
I just put some in the Battleaxe I bought last week.
I still check the air pressure every week just in case.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 04:33:43 PM » |
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...........The info says in red ink not to use "auto formula" in motorcycles. I'm not sure why, similar tire diameters and presures. Maybe something to do with marketing..............
This is the answer they gave me...........>>.... Dear Cliff, If your tire was on a trike, then I would suggest you used the Auto Formula. However, if it is on a motorcycle with two wheels, then the motorcycle formula is a better choice. What differentiates are formulations is the application that the product is going to be used in (speed, expected life cycle, tire and wheels materials, operating temperatures etc.). Motorcycles normally accelerate much faster than cars and their tires are also used for cornering. The motorcycle formula is designed to spread faster and react to an injury faster. Most motorcycle tires last less than 30,000 miles and in fact many people are lucky to get 20,000 miles. Car tires can be expected to easily go twice as far. The choice is yours. Again, in your application with a car tire on a motorcycle you could easily go either way.Sincerely, Mark Farkhan Inovex Industries, Inc. 45681 Oakbrook Court Unit 102 Sterling , Virginia 20166 U.S.A. Pretty much the answer they gave me last week when I called. Marty
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2011, 07:24:06 AM » |
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I have been told that most dealers do not want to change a tire with sealant. Anyone know if this is an issue or not?
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2011, 07:47:21 AM » |
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I have been told that most dealers do not want to change a tire with sealant. Anyone know if this is an issue or not?
I've heard about that with fix a flat or slime. What hasn't been used stays liquid and while I'm not sure about slime, fix a flat is flammable. With the hot patching of tires, that could easily start a fire. Marty
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2011, 08:33:23 AM » |
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I just had my spare Metzler's mounted on my spare wheels, and ordered some of the Ride-On. I searched and found a coupon code for 10 percent off... it was on the Adventure Rider Forums.... http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=310972Click on THIS LINK and then when you order and it asks for a promotional code type in ridingworkshop https://www.ride-onshop.com/link.cgi?affiliateID=54Edit.... I got tired of the Dyna Beads getting caught in the bent valve stems and deflating the tires when I check pressure. Plus this will give tire protection for flats over the Dyna Beads (even tho it is a bit more $$). I had a rear blow out on a fairly newer tire, riding 2 up, and it was not fun... and was a waste of a damn good tire. Hopefully this will work well (at least as advertised) for balance and flat protection.
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2011, 09:01:00 AM » |
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I have been told that most dealers do not want to change a tire with sealant. Anyone know if this is an issue or not?
I've used Ride-On for at least 20k miles, which includes both a rear and front tire change. In both cases, the tire tech was unaware the product was in the tire. It formed a thick, almost clear layer around the inner cirumference of the tread area. No runny, icky mess, to use more technical terms. Daniel Meyer had different results relative to mess, but overall a positive review: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,18269.0.html
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2011, 09:34:56 AM » |
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Does Ride-On® ever get into the air valve? And how long do you have to have the tire rolling after you reinstall the tire back on the rim with Ride-On® freshly added? [ Edit] I just visited the Ride-On® website, and apparently you do insert the product through the valve stem. I was thinking of adding it while I put on a new tire.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2011, 12:34:01 PM » |
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Does Ride-On® ever get into the air valve? And how long do you have to have the tire rolling after you reinstall the tire back on the rim with Ride-On® freshly added? According to my Honda dealer, the Ride On distributes itself evenly the first time you hit 25 mph.
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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2011, 09:11:02 PM » |
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thanks, Nitro. I bring my new tire over to the gas station, to inflate, and pop the bead, and that takes a few minutes, so I was concerned that the liquid would start to gel and lump up more at one spot....if that makes any sense. I originally thought that you had to pry open the tire off the rim to pour in the liquid. However, since Ride-on is added through the air valve, I can add Ride-on after the new tire is already installed on the bike. I take it that Ride-on rules out Dyna beads which I was thinking of using, but apparently provides balancing of its own. There's some conflicting directions on the Ride-on site. They say to install the product into a tire that has been balanced, but to take off any weights after adding Ride-on. According to the Ride-on tire chart, the Valk stock front tire requires 10-oz and the stock rear tire requires 11-oz. The bottles are 7-oz each, so that gets expensive.
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2011, 04:00:17 AM » |
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thanks, Nitro. I bring my new tire over to the gas station, to inflate, and pop the bead, and that takes a few minutes, so I was concerned that the liquid would start to gel and lump up more at one spot....if that makes any sense. I originally thought that you had to pry open the tire off the rim to pour in the liquid. However, since Ride-on is added through the air valve, I can add Ride-on after the new tire is already installed on the bike. I take it that Ride-on rules out Dyna beads which I was thinking of using, but apparently provides balancing of its own. There's some conflicting directions on the Ride-on site. They say to install the product into a tire that has been balanced, but to take off any weights after adding Ride-on. According to the Ride-on tire chart, the Valk stock front tire requires 10-oz and the stock rear tire requires 11-oz. The bottles are 7-oz each, so that gets expensive. Yes, Dyna Beads are out if you use Ride-On. Ride-On doesn't solidify. It always stays liquid, it's just really thick. It redistributes itself when needed, in reaction to a puncture or thrown wheel weight, for example. It will pool some in the bottom of the tire if the bike sits for weeks, but within a couple of miles spreads back around the inner circumference. I usually end up buying 3 bottles to take care of two tires, which costs around $50 if I recollect correctly. I think the puncture sealing benefits are worth it and its balancing properties are just icing on the cake.
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2011, 04:35:14 AM » |
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thanks, Nitro. I bring my new tire over to the gas station, to inflate, and pop the bead, and that takes a few minutes, so I was concerned that the liquid would start to gel and lump up more at one spot....if that makes any sense. I originally thought that you had to pry open the tire off the rim to pour in the liquid. However, since Ride-on is added through the air valve, I can add Ride-on after the new tire is already installed on the bike. I take it that Ride-on rules out Dyna beads which I was thinking of using, but apparently provides balancing of its own. There's some conflicting directions on the Ride-on site. They say to install the product into a tire that has been balanced, but to take off any weights after adding Ride-on. According to the Ride-on tire chart, the Valk stock front tire requires 10-oz and the stock rear tire requires 11-oz. The bottles are 7-oz each, so that gets expensive. on their application pdf, u have to add an addtional 10%?? (don't remember exact %) to get the balancing benefits.
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