Cure for cancer ?

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

I'd be willing to bet not one VRCC member does'nt know someone who has had cancer. I know a couple members of this site that are in a battle with it as I type this. I had to get a u-joint pressed in today for my 4X4 Dodge and the tech was telling me about this when I got home I looked it up. If you've got 30 minutes check it out and give comments and thoughts ( please watch if you intend to comment ). Gary ( G Man ) would really be interested in what you have to say.

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[robin]

Very interesting Joe a lot of questions to be answered to why they don't get any money ?
Drug companies have Washington in their pockets!!!!!!

[wdvalk]

MY dad and I built the equipment in his facility ,off 59 south in Houston,just one of my interesting jobs,just let me tell you his cure involves processing urine,I smelled like piss every day,60 minutes has done 3 full episodes on him

[BigAl]

Cancer and It's destruction is terrible.

What is even more terrible is people that try and do proffit from folks just trying to survive and are given a false hope.

Some Cancers spontaneously go into remission.

Others need a little treatment, skin, pollips, or moles.

Others are incureable.

My Brother in Law developed a large invasive non typical tumor in his gut that cut off the flow of urine from one kidney.

He had exploratory surgery and was on his way to Vanderbilt in Nashville. Oak Ridge would not even attempt to treat it(RARE FORM).

Then he got married as already planned in the Cades Cove, The preacher was not from around here, but from Louisiana.

Most preachers had refused to marry them because she had been divorced, including his own Uncle a Preacher who said he would

do it and then backed out,(COWARD).

This preacher then invited him to come to the Church as the Church wanted to pray for Jimmy.

Long story short, with no Medical Treatment he was cured of his cancerous tumor that was quiet large and intrusive.


Cured or Miracle,,you be the Judge.

This is all absolutely factual. Verified by Medical Testing .


As for the Byrzinski cure, I hope he means well or there is a special hot place that will be reserved when his time comes.

Texas Attorney General's Office
News Release, February 10, 1998
Texas Attorney General Dan Morales announced that Texas has obtained a court agreement that requires a Houston physician to stop soliciting cancer patients for treatments with unapproved drugs he calls "antineoplastons.z" Morales has obtained a Final Judgment against Houston physician Stanislaw R. Burzynski and his corporation Burzynski Research Institute (BRI), which was filed Tuesday in State District Court in Travis County.

Under the agreement, Burzynski and BRI agree to abide by probation terms he was placed under by the Texas State Board of Medical Examiners. Specifically, the agreement stipulates that Burzynski:

Cannot distribute unapproved drugs in Texas
Can distribute "antineoplastons" only to patients enrolled in FDA approved clinical trials, unless or until FDA approves his drugs for sale
Cannot advertise "antineoplastons" for the treatment of cancer
Must place a disclaimer to his website, promotional material and ads stating that the safety and effectiveness of "antineoplastons" have not been established
Burzynski claimed in the late 1970s that he had isolated certain peptides in human urine which could reverse cancer activity in cells. He set up a clinic in Houston, Texas and began treating patients and distributing the drug, without FDA approval.

Texas originally brought suit against Burzynski and BRI in 1992, charging that the defendants were treating cancer patients with the unapproved drug and advertising that the drug is effective against cancer. Burzynski had also been under a federal injunction since 1984 prohibiting him from introducing "antineoplastons" into interstate commerce, but the defendant tried to argue that he could legally treat patients within the state of Texas. The Supreme Court of Texas rejected that argument last fall in an appeal by Burzynski of disciplinary action by the Texas State Board of Medical Examiners.

Burzynski will also pay $50,000 to the Office of the Attorney General and the Texas Department of Health to reimburse those agencies for attorneys fees and costs of investigations. Assistant Attorney General Robert E. Reyna, Chief of Morales Dallas Consumer Protection Office, handled the case.

For further information, contact Ron Dusek, Ward Tisdale or Sonya Sanchez @ 512-463-2050 or press@oag.state.tx.us

[f6gal]

If anyone is interested, here is the whole video (first 30 minutes are same as above):

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[Oss]

If you took a person from the 18th century and placed him on any main street today he would
think " magic "  things flying in the air, people talking to other people that arent there, and a million other things we take for granted.

The "Machine" tries to protect itself and always has
The money machine protects its own, as did the church in days gone by, and despots and tyrants as well          Big brother must protect what make it money
 and keep touting ideas that work for it

Once upon a time the earth was flat  You could be burned alive for beliefs
Some places you can be killed for them

If the government says so it must be so  They would not lie to us  PLEASE

Keep an open mind.  Believe in the power of prayer, whatever you pray to or believe in

You never know what will make you better, it may be the power of prayer, it may be nothing
It may be a physician and biochemist who extracts bone marrow
or synthesizes a peptide from urine

remember stem cells?   Just a few years ago, now what advances in saving life.

whats so far fetched about getting a substance from human waste that a doctor should be punished for attempting to cure any disease. Do you believe the government should be able to prevent you from seeking a treatment that is not "approved"?  

They take an oath.  I would rather trust in that doctor than pfizer or bayer or dupont.  He is putting his money where his mouth is and whether he is right or wrong the research will lead somewhere and someday maybe people will live who would otherwise die. 

To me that is enough reason YMMV

I wish all who are sick to be cured and end to their suffering and would like to see some of the big bucks going to fund the doctor's research.  3 out of 10 living who have inoperable tumors without radiation or chemo is better than what we have now    He is following FDA guidelines in his trials and with any success the FDA SHOULD HAVE got out of the way so the major fundraisers could funnel his reseach. But we know that wont happen on its own

oss off the soapbox

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

If you took a person from the 18th century and placed him on any main street today he would
think " magic "  things flying in the air, people talking to other people that arent there, and a million other things we take for granted.

The "Machine" tries to protect itself and always has
The money machine protects its own, as did the church in days gone by, and despots and tyrants as well          Big brother must protect what make it money
 and keep touting ideas that work for it

Once upon a time the earth was flat  You could be burned alive for beliefs
Some places you can be killed for them

If the government says so it must be so  They would not lie to us  PLEASE

Keep an open mind.  Believe in the power of prayer, whatever you pray to or believe in

You never know what will make you better, it may be the power of prayer, it may be nothing
It may be a physician and biochemist who extracts bone marrow
or synthesizes a peptide from urine

remember stem cells?   Just a few years ago, now what advances in saving life.

whats so far fetched about getting a substance from human waste that a doctor should be punished for attempting to cure any disease. Do you believe the government should be able to prevent you from seeking a treatment that is not "approved"?  

They take an oath.  I would rather trust in that doctor than pfizer or bayer or dupont.  He is putting his money where his mouth is and whether he is right or wrong the research will lead somewhere and someday maybe people will live who would otherwise die. 

To me that is enough reason YMMV

I wish all who are sick to be cured and end to their suffering and would like to see some of the big bucks going to fund the doctor's research.  3 out of 10 living who have inoperable tumors without radiation or chemo is better than what we have now    He is following FDA guidelines in his trials and with any success the FDA SHOULD HAVE got out of the way so the major fundraisers could funnel his reseach. But we know that wont happen on its own

oss off the soapbox

Awesome response Evan     Myself I'm not sure where I stand on this however I do hope ( wish ) someone would cure the suffering cancer causes and who knows it just might be this guy....If he does the money Bill Gates has in his pocket will only be a drop in the bucket to the money this Doctor will have.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

If anyone is interested, here is the whole video (first 30 minutes are same as above):

Burzynski: Cancer Is Serious Business

Connie what do you think about it ?

[JimC]

Well said OSS



Jim

[donaldcc]

  I think it is complete bullshit and the guy is a self-serving charlatan unfortunately preying on people with terminal illness.  There will always be people out there taking advantage of those in dire circumstances.  Why doesn't this guy have any respect in the scientific community?  Suzanne Sommers believes in him, need I say more??  

[alph]

 I think it is complete bullshit and the guy is a self-serving charlatan unfortunately preying on people with terminal illness.  There will always be people out there taking advantage of those in dire circumstances.  Why doesn't this guy have any respect in the scientific community?  Suzanne Sommers believes in him, need I say more??  

believe me, when you're given the news your child has cancer, and you go through two months of watching the chemo do it's thing, you'll be dieing to find some other way to get treatment!!

Yep, it’s all in were the money goes.  My father died of cancer in ’09.  all of his brothers except for two died of cancer, so when he was diagnosed he figured the end result was death and it was.  He gave up. 

Just to let some of you know, this same video was narrated by the same guy that narrated the movie “ZIETGIEST”, I wonder if there’s a connection?

The person posting the video is the same group that posted the video “CHEM-TRAILS” visit their website; http://projectavalon.net/

There’s a lot that we’re not being told, question is, who do you want to believe?

[alph]

joe,

i wish you would have posted this two years ago.  had you done so, who knows, my father might be alive today.  i've started doing some research and it seems like this Burzinski guy is for real, there have been many other stories about this drug he has, many others that have come through this cancer ordeal.

thanks for posting.

al.

[thumper]

Seven years ago I noticed I had blood in my urine.  After a battery of tests I was diagnosed with transitional cell carcinoma with a large tumor in the right kidney.  The kidney was removed and pathology from the surgury dertermined that the cancer had matastisised.  At this point I asked my urologist and oncologist what my chances for survival were.  Urologist gave me 40% and the oncologist would only say that I had a 50-50 chance of being alive 5 years from that date.

I was given 16 weeks of chemotherepy consisting of Gemzar and Cisplatin....pretty much SOP for most cancer patients.  For the next two+ years I had clean CAT scans.  Didn't mean I was cancer free it just meant that it was undetectable.  One of my scans turned up "hot lymphnodes" so it was back on the chemo...Gemzar and Carboplatin this time.  I took the chemo with almost no side effects for the better part of the next two years until my platlets simply couldn't take it any more.  The cancer wasn't growing very much and it was not going away.

The next chemo drug was called Taxol and it had devastating physical effects.  I lost all of my hair (no big deal), drove me into a deep and depressed mental state called (chemo brain), and left me with severe nerve damage to my hands and feet that is all but irreversable.

I couldn't and wouldn't take the Taxol anymore so we tried another drug (name escapes me right now) that was worthless.

Last Tuesday I walked into my oncologist's office to hear that my PET scan showed a marked spread of the cancer and that he was leaving my health care provider.  Honestly, I"m not sure that was a bad thing because I had pretty much lost confidence in him anyway.

I have contacted my new oncologist and he has at least given me some hope that things right now may not be as dire as I thought they were at noon Tuesday.

I sat through the video and was unimpressed.

Here's what I believe.  The world we live in and the food we eat are becoming more toxic everyday.  I don't know how I got my cancer and frankly I think it's irrelevant at this point.  The reality is that I am probably not going to survive this thing and am living on borrowed time...playing with house money if you will.

It's not all "the government" or "big brother" running the show.  Universities, private research faclities, and the scientific community throughout the world are fighting this disease.  They are good smart people who I believe are doing the best they can.

Ever since I was first diagnosed people have been in my ear to cast off the conventional way of treating this and turn to suppliments, holistic medicine, diet, laying of hands, or the Dr. Burzinskies.

All's I know is that I am still here and can still drag pegs and throw gravel at Joe May on Wayah Road.

Not bad for someone who was supposed to be dead two years ago.

JMHO

 


 

[thumper]

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All's I know is that I am still here and can still drag pegs and throw gravel at Joe May on Wayah Road.

Not bad for someone who was supposed to be dead two years ago

 

[f6gal]

If anyone is interested, here is the whole video (first 30 minutes are same as above):
Burzynski: Cancer Is Serious Business

Connie what do you think about it ?

It's hard for me to say what I think... I would need to see and evaluate the research for myself.
However, as hard as they are trying to shut him down, why are they unsuccesful?  It doesn't make much sense.  

I'm pretty sure that if I had CA, with a dire prognosis, I would be trying to see Burzynski.  What's the downside to trying his method?  Death, when I'm already headed there anyway?? Big deal!  OTOH, maybe that's how he stays in business... by exploiting the desperate.  But, then, we're back to why are they unable to shut him down?

Another question that I have is, if cancer truly occurs only in people with low levels of these proteins, why not give these ppl the proteins prophylactically... thereby avoiding CA in the first place.

If this information is true, I'm very disappointed in the medical community.  I'm not naive... I know the dollar rules the world, but I would hate to think that ppl are being sacrificed for a larger piece of the green.

[Master Blaster]

My story.  2004 April just before my Birthday I had radical prostate surgery for Prostate Cancer, PSA was 22.  I had skipped my physical the previous year, and that almost proved fatal.  Lots of complications  for the first year or so, but gradually got better and better.  PSA 0 for the last 5 years, but 2008 was diagnosed with Peritoneal Mesothelioma.  Very rare and fatal form of cancer and most centers and Oncologist have no clue as to treatment.  Some seemed to have the idea that even though we know nothing about it, we can milk this for some big bucks.  Long story short is at that time there were only a couple of drs in the country  having any success at all treating it.  Connie researched  and found a possible and Psycho informed me.  I did my own research from that and ran with it.  Ended up with Dr Bryan Loggie at Creighton University Medical Center in Omaha.  He did his Shake and Bake treatment that he developed after his father died of it and there was no treatment.  About 12 hours in surgery, debulking and removing any thing that you dont absolutely have to have to live, followed by icing me down and pumping heated Carboplaten through my abdomen for 90 minutes.  This was followed 2 months later after I had recovered enough to withstand it a regimen of Chemo with a $22,000.00 per session Meso specific and Carboplaten.  Here it is a little over 2 years later, and I am Cancer free and still aboveground.  My Oncologist claims a miracle.  So I would not automatically discount an individual doctor coming up with a valid treatment.  Mine sure did, I had to jump through some hoops to qualify for a patient of DR Loggie, but was a small price to pay.  OH also I will always be thankful and grateful to our on F6 Gal for steering me in that direction.

[donaldcc]

 I think it is complete bullshit and the guy is a self-serving charlatan unfortunately preying on people with terminal illness.  There will always be people out there taking advantage of those in dire circumstances.  Why doesn't this guy have any respect in the scientific community?  Suzanne Sommers believes in him, need I say more??  

Let me just reiterate my strong feelings about this guy and those like him.

Like most of you I have had family members die with cancer.  Unfortunate.   

I know there are a lot of people that distrust our government so much that they think that anytime the government tries to limit someone there must be a conspiracy. 

The "Dr."  graduated from school in Poland in 1967.  He "supposedly" got his Ph.D. (D.Msc.) in 1968 after a one year lab project and test.  No peer reviewed paper, etc.  He had no specialty training in cancer or other residency.    Medical license in 1973 and he came up with his "theory" for the cure of cancer based on peptides (sort of like protiens) in urine.

His research has been criticised severely by leading cancer specialists.  The Atty. General in Texas limited his advertising of "cancer drugs" and he was prohibited from distributing unapproved drugs.  Those poor people on his studies got meds to self administer and had to go to their own doctors for blood tests, etc.  The "Dr." then listed these patient's doctors as "co-investigators" many times without their knowledge.  He was convicted of fraud for billing insurers for unauthorized treatments.

Now one of the great things about our country is that if you want to disregard science and go to a witch doctor to spend your hard earned money with no results, you have that right.    If you or your loved ones go to this "quack" I feel sorry for you, but go for it and shoot up with piss by-products.  Just doesn't seem too smart to me. 

Most of you are old enough to remember LAETRILE, another supposed cancer wonderdrug.  This charlatan will find his bag of pisspot potions to be the same . . . WORTHLESS.

[wdvalk]

human beings are sacrificed for the all mighty dollar every day

[ILcruiser]

My story.  2004 April just before my Birthday I had radical prostate surgery for Prostate Cancer, PSA was 22.  I had skipped my physical the previous year, and that almost proved fatal.  Lots of complications  for the first year or so, but gradually got better and better.  PSA 0 for the last 5 years, but 2008 was diagnosed with Peridontal Mesothelioma.  Very rare and fatal form of cancer and most centers and Oncologist have no clue as to treatment.  Some seemed to have the idea that even though we know nothing about it, we can milk this for some big bucks.  Long story short is at that time there were only a couple of drs in the country  having any success at all treating it.  Connie researched  and found a possible and Psycho informed me.  I did my own research from that and ran with it.  Ended up with Dr Bryan Loggie at Creighton University Medical Center in Omaha.  He did his Shake and Bake treatment that he developed after his father died of it and there was no treatment.  About 12 hours in surgery, debulking and removing any thing that you dont absolutely have to have to live, followed by icing me down and pumping heated Carboplaten through my abdomen for 90 minutes.  This was followed 2 months later after I had recovered enough to withstand it a regimen of Chemo with a $22,000.00 per session Meso specific and Carboplaten.  Here it is a little over 2 years later, and I am Cancer free and still aboveground.  My Oncologist claims a miracle.  So I would not automatically discount an individual doctor coming up with a valid treatment.  Mine sure did, I had to jump through some hoops to qualify for a patient of DR Loggie, but was a small price to pay.  OH also I will always be thankful and grateful to our on F6 Gal for steering me in that direction.

Very similar to my story; I had a psa in '06 that was fine, but the doc didn't also do a digital (that sounds a lot more scientific than it it, the word "digitus" being Latin for "finger.") exam.  A later exam with psa confirmed stage 3 prostate cancer.  I've been in remission for 3 years, but I urge you guys to get an annual psa PLUS a digital exam. 

In another vein, the love of my life has been battling metastatic breast cancer for 18 months.  I'll spare you the details, but she's hanging on as best she can, but has feeding and gastric tubes, and is on the last chemo regimen she'll have.  One of the drugs she was on, Avastin, was nothing short of miraculous, but cost $8,000 an infusion.  Earlier this year, the FDA withdrew its approval for treatment of breast cancer.  The reason was that in post-approval trials, it prolonged the symptom-free period of treatment but not the life expectancy of recipients.  To translate, it was super-expensive and most widely used for breast cancer, so the insurance companies used their considerable influence in Washington to have it withdrawn as an approved drug for the treatment of metastatic breast cancer.  There is no question that both big business and politics are quite efficiently stifling the development of effective cancer regimens.

[BigAl]

Love You Thumper Man.

You are a real inspiration.

A really good rider.

One tough Son of a Gun as well.

You have shown a lot of folks how to enjoy the time that we have while we are here.

None of us know how long we have and there's only one fellow(GOD) that really knows anyway.

For me, that's enough.

AL

[Bonzo]

Thumper, I read your post and I am inspired by your comments, but saddened by your situation. Strength, faith and perseverance! We will never surrender to this disease.
I am a cancer survivor, follicular center cell non Hodgkins lymphoma, I am the father of a cancer survivor my daughter Sarah, who had Hodgkins Lymphoma, both of us in 2002. We were both freed of the disease by the traditional approaches. I had Surgery, Chemo (CHOP), and Radiation. It kicked my butt, hard.
I don't think there will ever be one cure for all cancers. I am wary of anyone who claims that they know "The Cure". When faced with an impossible situation we grasp for anything, It's human nature. Unfortunately it is also human nature to take advantage of people when they are vulnerable.
Faith, In spirit, in your G-D, in your Doctors and in your self. Never surrender!