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Author Topic: Forensic Evaluation Requested  (Read 1579 times)
Fudd
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« on: June 25, 2011, 04:57:55 PM »



Can some of you motorcycle Doctors conduct an autopsy on this fork seal and tell me what killed it?

No, I didn't jack it around with a screwdriver.  No damage on the dust seal.  No debris found in there.
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Fudd
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2011, 05:31:06 PM »

It should be the original seal.

I made the same inserter tool out of a pvc coupling.  It worked really well.
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The Anvil
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2011, 06:01:41 PM »

Yeah it looks like some ham-fisted jackass used a punch or some other inappropriate tool for installation.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 07:38:18 PM »

I can't imagine the factory doing that.   And, the previous owner gave me a meticulous maintance record that listed everything he did other than fuel ups.  No mention of ever fooling around with the forks.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2011, 08:26:48 PM »

It was probably a Thursday night shift ending, and the next day was a Holiday, and they wanted to get out of there.

I found a Coke BOTTLE in a rear quarter panel on my 57 Chev Convertible.   We found out it was completed on the assembly line right ahead of a Holiday.    Chased that rattle for about 4 years, until the wife got smacked in the side by a gal who had just got her license.   Ran a stop sign.     When they tore it apart they called me and had me stop by to show me the broken bottle.    Got it back all fixed up nice and pretty, and there was NO MORE rattle.

Dealer and Chevrolet Rep both about had sheet fits over it.
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The Anvil
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2011, 09:22:31 PM »

I can't imagine the factory doing that. 

Oh I can. I've seen worse factory work on 40 million dollar AIRPLANES.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.

1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
Ricky-D
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2011, 08:35:15 AM »

I can't imagine the factory doing that.   And, the previous owner gave me a meticulous maintance record that listed everything he did other than fuel ups.  No mention of ever fooling around with the forks.

Maybe the PO is not the OO.

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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2011, 09:35:41 AM »

A couple stories.
The factory can certainly screw up..
I decided to check compression on the Valk just for the heck of it.. #6 was low.. Honda wasn't interested.. That piston was damaged and pinched both compression rings.. Honda still wasn't interested.. Since I was the original owner, Honda caused the problem.. Problem fixed at my expense.. I've been dealing with factory reps for 50 years and they all tend to take the company line and the reps for the Japanese brands are the worst to deal with..
RJ and the coke bottle.. As a youngster we had a new car we sold with a traveling rattle[ can't remember whether it was a Studebaker or Ford],but, regardless the rattle was there and traveling.. It turned out to be a pop bottle in the frame.. Someone decided to be funny and stick his pop bottle in a frame half and weld up the halves.. Drove me knutz finding it.. Got the bottle to one end of the frame and broke it up with a punch or chisel..
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2011, 11:18:17 AM »

My 2003 Valkyrie that I purchased new in 2004, had a twist in the rear brake line causing it to rub against the rear brake rotor and wear through in 200 miles. Exciting stop when the rear pedal went all the way down without any braking effect. Honda rep said they had never seen that before.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2011, 11:49:08 AM »

Detailed cars right out of high school. 3   (yes 3) brand new 2000 pontiac firebirds came back after sale with a GOD AWFUL smell inside. Clean the interior send them away. They all came back. Pull and re clean the interior and send them away.  Came back again. Pull   ALL the interior bits dash, panels, carpet ALL of IT found a half drank black hairy pint of milk in all 3 cars right behind the drivers rear passenger kick panel.  No nothing fishy EVER goes on at the factory....
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Patrick
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2011, 04:01:25 PM »

Rotten milk ??!!  Nothing smells worse than spoiled milk !!  Talk about smells.. We had a new Ford Falcon on the trailer that would not start.. The smoke would roll and it smelled of burnt wiring.. Its obvious it was pushed on the trailer !!  This was back in the day before circuit boards and every wire was tacked welded to the dash panel frame.. I hate laying under a dash doing thing kind of work..
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2011, 05:51:20 PM »

"After further review," as they say in the NFL, no tool marks were found.  This seal was a victim of dry rot,  and it just blew out.  Another Valk rider looked at it today and said they it looked just like a pair he changed a few months ago.

This was something new to me.  My bad seals previous to this had always leaked between the piston and the seal, not through the seal.

OK live and learn, thanks for everyones help.
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