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« on: July 02, 2011, 06:48:08 PM » |
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 My Valkyrie is on its right side and I can't lifty it up. There used to be a "how to pick up a fat lady" in tech talk (I think) and I should have read it. Any hints?
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2011, 06:50:10 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2011, 06:52:43 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2011, 06:54:53 PM » |
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This may be a better visual....
Again, good luck
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2011, 07:09:37 PM » |
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Basically you push it up, not lift it. You can lift it only if you have help...just too heavy. The video is good, your bike should be resting on the engine guards so won't be flat on its side like in the example. If you can get to it, I'd lock the forks as well. Turn to the left and use the key to lock them, that way no surprises if they happen to move when half way up. Just put your butt against the side, grab the grip with your left hand and depending on the model...there are numerous things to grab with your right. Then just push it upright and let it rest against the kick stand. You did remember to put it down....right? I've seen guys forget and it tips over to the left side. Just don't try lifting it by yourself. If you do, you'll be carrying something else around in a wheelbarrow for the next few weeks. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2011, 07:23:25 PM » |
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Due to a VERY HIGH gust of wind on Interstate 40 in Gallup, I wound up on the side of the freeway with the Wing on it's left side with the tent trailer attached. Almost bought the farm over an embankment. Once I composed myself, I picked up the bike alone. 150+ cars/trucks went by and no one stopped to help. After coming home from Nova Scotia and the people there, I've lost faith in Americans.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2011, 07:33:26 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2011, 07:34:14 PM » |
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I'd say get help. Dumped mine 3x, twice in one night. 1st time some biker folk help me right her. 2nd time, a hour later, had to call a cop friend to help. I was jumping on the pegs trying to rock it up to no avail. 3rd time more bikers helped me right her.
She's gonna smoke a bit when you get her righted.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2011, 07:35:53 PM » |
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Well< I guess I should have told you that I was doing the polishing by an open garage door (lots of junk along that wall) and couldn't get a push or lift on thaat side. I used a couple of lome-alongs and a strap to get her up. Thanks for the tips and I'll save 'em.
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2011, 08:04:04 PM » |
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I dropped mine in the driveway and couldn't get it to move cause my feet kept sliding in the gravel and dirt. Used a tie down strap hooked to the engine guard and the rear bumper of my truck. Pulled it up enough that I was able to rotate it over.
Marty
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2011, 08:12:56 PM » |
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Due to a VERY HIGH gust of wind on Interstate 40 in Gallup, I wound up on the side of the freeway with the Wing on it's left side with the tent trailer attached. Almost bought the farm over an embankment. Once I composed myself, I picked up the bike alone. 150+ cars/trucks went by and no one stopped to help. After coming home from Nova Scotia and the people there, I've lost faith in Americans.
There may not be many americans in New Mexico anymore, seems they have an illegal alien problem down that way. Sorry, just kidding, jeez, I would have stopped and helped if I went by, and I'd venture to say 99% of this club would have also. I would'nt condemn a whole country over it. I would even help if I was in Canada. Did any bikes go by and not help? Probly not, I'd guess. If they did, they was just cagers on bikes. Ya just can't trust them cagers.  Hoser
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2011, 10:34:59 PM » |
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The video used to be on f6rider.com but it is no longer there. Some one might have it to post. I have had to pick mine up a few times but just from the engine guard. Picked mine up just today as a matter of fact. Wife backed into it this afternoon. Lucky no damage just went over on the engine guard. Put my back into it just like in the video and up she goes with no problem. Since no damage done I kept my cool and life is still good around the house.
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2011, 02:17:21 AM » |
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Hmm,  mine's been over twice, nothing serious just me not thinking and she toppled over, pretty embarassing though.  I know she's a fat lady and a bit heavy but, never considered not being able to right her. I'm a pretty big guy, never thought about someone not being able to put her back on a three point stance. Was she loaded up for travel? I know some folks pack everything, including the kitchen sink when they go. I did have to get help once, I was loading her for a trip on my gooseneck from the side and ramped up too fast, went right over the side and she ended up (upright) but on her belly hanging over the side of the trailer. Yeah, I felt like a real dumbass.  Won't do that again. Had to get my buddy's tractor with a bucket lift to actually lift the entire front of the girl up in the air and back her up. Yeah, that was not a good day.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2011, 03:57:29 AM » |
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1. Turn the handlebars to full-lock position with front of tire pointed downward. 2. Find the "balance point" of the two tires and the engine, engine guard, or footpeg. The motorcycle will be fairly easy to lift until it reaches this point because it's resting on its side. Once you start lifting from there, you are responsible for the most of the weight of the bike.
3. "Sit" down with your butt/lower back against the motorcycle seat. Be very careful to keep your back straight and your head up. Put your feet solidly on the ground about 12 inches apart, with your knees bent slightly.
4. With one hand, grasp the handgrip (underhand, preferably), keeping your wrist straight.
5. With your other hand, grip the motorcycle framework (or any solid part of the motorcycle), being careful to avoid the hot exhaust pipe, turn signals, etc. 6. Lift with your legs by taking small steps backwards, pressing against the seat with your butt and keeping your back straight. On slippery or gravelly surfaces this technique probably won't work. On inclined surfaces this can be very dangerous.
7. Be careful not to lift the motorcycle up and then flip it onto its other side! If possible, put the sidestand down and the bike in gear.
8. Set the motorcycle on its sidestand and park it safely.
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2011, 05:40:56 AM » |
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Glad you got her picked up. They don't look near as good when they're laying on their sides.
I've had to pick mine up several times. The first time was a few feet up the edge of a small grassy hill with the bike falling down the hill, not up it. I used the method mentioned above and was able to pick her up but somehow injured the wrist of the hand on the handlebar when I turned around to face the bike. Kickstand wouldn't work on the hill and wasn't tried.
Since then, if I have to pick her up I make sure the handlebar is turned with the front wheel facing down. Then I just squat beside her, grab the low side hand grip with both hands and pick her up. I always worry that it might be too much stress on the handlebar but so far (3 times) it hasn't hurt a thing including me.
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2011, 05:41:05 AM » |
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Glad you righted it but I found this
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2011, 07:04:12 AM » |
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The video used to be on f6rider.com but it is no longer there. Some one might have it to post. I have had to pick mine up a few times but just from the engine guard. Picked mine up just today as a matter of fact. Wife backed into it this afternoon. Lucky no damage just went over on the engine guard. Put my back into it just like in the video and up she goes with no problem. Since no damage done I kept my cool and life is still good around the house.
You might be able to use that to your advantage down the road the next time you do something to irritate her. Keep it filed away for future use! 
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2011, 07:07:41 AM » |
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This might sound silly, but....Might be a good idea for anyone who hasn't lifted a large bike before to get a few friends together, go to a (soft) field somewhere, and gently lay one down, then practice bringing her back up, while you've got backup on hand...
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2011, 07:26:38 AM » |
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Also... put it in gear so it doesn't roll away when you lift it.
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2011, 07:59:01 AM » |
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I'd say get help. Dumped mine 3x, twice in one night. 1st time some biker folk help me right her. 2nd time, a hour later, had to call a cop friend to help. I was jumping on the pegs trying to rock it up to no avail. 3rd time more bikers helped me right her.
She's gonna smoke a bit when you get her righted.
Twice in one night? Really? I gotta ask...Were you drunk?  ??? 
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2011, 09:51:34 AM » |
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I'd say get help. Dumped mine 3x, twice in one night. 1st time some biker folk help me right her. 2nd time, a hour later, had to call a cop friend to help. I was jumping on the pegs trying to rock it up to no avail. 3rd time more bikers helped me right her.
She's gonna smoke a bit when you get her righted.
Twice in one night? Really? I gotta ask...Were you drunk?  ???  It's Fudgie. If you have to ask . . .  Marty
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2011, 01:06:56 PM » |
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I've lifted mine off the guards five or six times (always working on it/pushing it around), except the one time I threw it over on the kickstand I didn't put down... I was so pissed I lifted it back up with the handlebar while still astride (left arm/left leg). I'm 5'9" and old. 
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2011, 01:48:24 PM » |
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Three times mine went down only twice all the way, the other time was at Deals Gap parking lot....I misread the sever angle I was parking on and there was infinity to go below my foot as I tried to set her down, she rested on the biek next to me.......luckily no damage. The two times it went down all the way was some heafty passengers I happened to have on board doing unexpected things. I find that if you try to pick it up yourseld RIGHT AWAY after it goes down theres a lot more adrenalin at your disposal.......heck I cant even remember what I grabbed, but I did pick it up both times by myself and it seemed easy
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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2011, 04:12:37 PM » |
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So far  I haven't dropped mine. I've came close. Once in the back yard of a rental house I lived at. Tried to put it up on the centerstand. Got the bike up on the right centerstand leg. I overbalanced and the bike started to lean toward the right. I balanced there for about 10 seconds, then the bike slowly leaned toward the left.  Had to change underwear after that. The other time I had just let my wife off the bike. I overcompensated and leaned to the right. The bike almost went down on the right side. I planted my right foot, still holding on to the bars and muscled it upright.  The bad part was the bike was running at the time. Luckily I already had the clutch in. God loves me for some reason, I haven't figured out why yet, but I'm glad He does.  Walt
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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2011, 04:18:46 PM » |
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So far  I haven't dropped mine. I've came close. Once in the back yard of a rental house I lived at. Tried to put it up on the centerstand. Got the bike up on the right centerstand leg. I overbalanced and the bike started to lean toward the right. I balanced there for about 10 seconds, then the bike slowly leaned toward the left.  Had to change underwear after that. The other time I had just let my wife off the bike. I overcompensated and leaned to the right. The bike almost went down on the right side. I planted my right foot, still holding on to the bars and muscled it upright.  The bad part was the bike was running at the time. Luckily I already had the clutch in. God loves me for some reason, I haven't figured out why yet, but I'm glad He does.  Walt Just wait it'll happen when you have a large group of friends around to enjoy it
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« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2011, 04:25:37 PM » |
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LMAO Scoot. It wouldn't be the first time I played the part of comic relief  . It would be quite a riot after the fact though. Walt
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« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2011, 06:46:28 PM » |
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It helps if it has landed on its right side because then you can flip down the side stand and push until she sits still. When the gal lands on her left you've got to push it up (lifting with legs) and then sweep the leg like Karate Kid to get that kick stand down.
When I made a bone head dump in the driveway (my fault entirely) my wife picked the bike up nearly effortlessly as I cussed it (while mad at myself).
When I've slid the bike onto its side while riding I usually use my upset to pick up the bike. I've been lucky that I have not had to do that often in the past 90,000 miles.
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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2011, 06:58:42 PM » |
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my wife picked the bike up nearly effortlesslyThis sounds like a wife deserving of respect and politeness. 
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« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2011, 05:52:48 AM » |
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I'd say get help. Dumped mine 3x, twice in one night. 1st time some biker folk help me right her. 2nd time, a hour later, had to call a cop friend to help. I was jumping on the pegs trying to rock it up to no avail. 3rd time more bikers helped me right her.
She's gonna smoke a bit when you get her righted.
Twice in one night? Really? I gotta ask...Were you drunk?  ???  Technically, no.  Did have a few beam and cokes tho.  It was the terrain that did it. Was at a pre rally-rally in Ohio. They park everyone in a field the night before the gates open. I was about a 1/4 mile back in the field when it was time for me to head back home to Ind. Instead of me riding back to the enterance of the field I decided to take the ditch. It was not steep by any means. Got up to the road and when I slowed to walk the bike into the turn I put my feet down. Well my stubbie little legs could not reach the ground so over she went. Hour later back in Ind it was starting to rain. Pulled under a over pass to put rain gear on. Got near the edge of the road and leaned right to put the kick stand out when there was a a 4" drop off from the edge of the pavement. Stubbie legs again. Over she went. 3rd time was in Deadwood on Mt Moriah. Slopped parking lot that ya cant see. Alot of bikes down that morning.
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« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2011, 05:53:39 AM » |
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I'd say get help. Dumped mine 3x, twice in one night. 1st time some biker folk help me right her. 2nd time, a hour later, had to call a cop friend to help. I was jumping on the pegs trying to rock it up to no avail. 3rd time more bikers helped me right her.
She's gonna smoke a bit when you get her righted.
Twice in one night? Really? I gotta ask...Were you drunk?  ???  It's Fudgie. If you have to ask . . .  Marty 
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