Bill Laslett
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« on: April 22, 2009, 01:34:48 PM » |
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How many would plug a rear tire with less than 500 miles on it ? E3...what kind of plug would use ? 
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2009, 01:43:33 PM » |
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Where is the puncture, tread or sidewall? IF I was to patch, I would remove and have it done from the inside.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2009, 02:06:17 PM » |
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I plug and run them until they wear out. I prefer the 'caterpillar' plugs. My favorites are sold by Patchboy.com
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2009, 02:22:14 PM » |
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I"ve used the rope type on a rear and never gave it a second thought! But if its always there buggin ya! get it done by a pro.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2009, 02:45:28 PM » |
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I have never had a problem using the gooey string type plugs with the glue. Most Auto stores sell the kit...strings, glue, rasp and insertion tool. I keep one in my saddle bag.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2009, 03:28:55 PM » |
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How many would plug a rear tire with less than 500 miles on it ? E3...what kind of plug would use ?  A plug is temporary so any kind will do. A patch is the only permanent repair. Any professional tire person (or safety advocate) worth his salt will tell you to use a plug only to get you to a place where the punctured tire can be patched from the inside. And it should only be patched if it's punctured in the tread. If it's punctured in the sidewall, it's time for a new tire. I have run tires all my life with patches, but never with plugs because I have seen too many leak down. If you run a patch very long you need to ask yourself, do you feel lucky?
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2009, 04:40:08 PM » |
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[/quote] A plug is temporary so any kind will do. A patch is the only permanent repair. Any professional tire person (or safety advocate) worth his salt will tell you to use a plug only to get you to a place where the punctured tire can be patched from the inside. And it should only be patched if it's punctured in the tread. If it's punctured in the sidewall, it's time for a new tire. I have run tires all my life with patches, but never with plugs because I have seen too many leak down. If you run a patch very long you need to ask yourself, do you feel lucky? [/quote] Sorry, I guess I'm an exception to this. I have been both a professional tire guy (10 years) and a professional safety advocate (17 years), and I run plugs in the tread for the remaining life of the tire. I've never had a plug leak or come out. The longest I've run one on a bike is 17,000 miles before the tire wore out. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 05:24:24 PM » |
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If it leaks down its no worse than another nail or drywall screw! (hate those) I had a new set of tires on my sport bike, heading for Robinsville N.C.. Got to Aiken S.C. while at a gas stop noticed a drywall screw in my front Qualifier. Pluged it and pumped it up! Checked the psi every stop, it was on my mind bugin me the whole trip. Mostly in those decreasing turns. Rode back to FL without a PSI loss and the rest of the tire life! Maybe why I didn't get a ticket that trip!
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 05:26:33 PM » |
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I also have had very good luck with the Stop & Go mushroom plugs. I have used them on both my Valk and various other vehicles, and have not had a problem yet...
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2009, 06:34:26 PM » |
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I have put a plug in my bike tire and my auto's rear tire and I ran them untill the tires were wore out. Just my two cents adios fast black
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2009, 10:36:40 AM » |
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A plug is temporary so any kind will do. A patch is the only permanent repair.
Any professional tire person (or safety advocate) worth his salt will tell you to use a plug only to get you to a place where the punctured tire can be patched from the inside. And it should only be patched if it's punctured in the tread. If it's punctured in the sidewall, it's time for a new tire.
I have run tires all my life with patches, but never with plugs because I have seen too many leak down.
If you run a patch very long you need to ask yourself, do you feel lucky?
Sorry, I guess I'm an exception to this. I have been both a professional tire guy (10 years) and a professional safety advocate (17 years), and I run plugs in the tread for the remaining life of the tire. I've never had a plug leak or come out. The longest I've run one on a bike is 17,000 miles before the tire wore out.  Please don't take offense Valker. I feel strongly about this because I have had close calls and also seen many close calls because of plugs leaking down quickly at a bad time. I might run one too long again myself one day if I have to, but I will never tell anyone that it's okay to run a plug as a permanent repair. BTW, I'll buy a beer for anyone who can show me where a plug manufacturer intends for them to be a permanent repair. Any package I've ever seen recommends them for a temporary repair only.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 12:54:50 PM » |
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No worries. I don't take offense. I have been plugging for 40 years and don't recommend to others to do it. I was just stating what I do. I also patch tubes on my bikes that run tubes....even the front ones. (I also used to climb trees and ride out thunderstorms in them, but that is off topic) 
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 01:37:35 PM » |
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Every tire I buy seems to get a nail in the first 500 miles. Plug it and forget it.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 06:41:53 PM » |
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I've run plugs many times. Once I had two in a front Avon...ran it till the tire wore out. I've used both Stop-n-Go and Progressive plugs.
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2009, 07:37:03 PM » |
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I've got a Stop-n-Go plug in my rear E3 as we speak. After analyzing the situation, the size of the plug, the size of a nail, and as difficult it is to get the plug through the gun and into the tire, I can't imagine the plug ever failing. I'm not in the tire business, but I'm riding with the plug. Ymmv, (I also run a mud flap on the front fender, so the theory about the front flap being a cure-all for picking up nails does not hold water).
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2009, 08:03:52 PM » |
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I've got a Stop-n-Go plug in my rear E3 as we speak. After analyzing the situation, the size of the plug, the size of a nail, and as difficult it is to get the plug through the gun and into the tire, I can't imagine the plug ever failing. I'm not in the tire business, but I'm riding with the plug. Ymmv, (I also run a mud flap on the front fender, so the theory about the front flap being a cure-all for picking up nails does not hold water).
but is the front flap long enough to drag the ground? I put one on a Wing front that was long enough to drag. It wore off even with the road. In 100K with that bike, I never had a rear flat. 
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2009, 05:30:50 AM » |
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I've got a Stop-n-Go plug in my rear E3 as we speak. After analyzing the situation, the size of the plug, the size of a nail, and as difficult it is to get the plug through the gun and into the tire, I can't imagine the plug ever failing. I'm not in the tire business, but I'm riding with the plug. Ymmv, (I also run a mud flap on the front fender, so the theory about the front flap being a cure-all for picking up nails does not hold water).
but is the front flap long enough to drag the ground? I put one on a Wing front that was long enough to drag. It wore off even with the road. In 100K with that bike, I never had a rear flat.  Actually, yes. It has about three inches of fringe that touches the ground when stopped. Its wore down to match road surface.
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2009, 04:25:27 PM » |
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Actually, it's 4 1/2 inches of flap at the longest point and 4 1/2 inches of fringe at the shortest point. The fringe drags the ground at low speed. (drilled the fender to mount the flap. Haven't taken the time to figure out how to post pix on the new site). Ymmv,
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