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« on: July 21, 2011, 02:44:25 PM »

Help if you can.

https://www.buildtheborderfence.com/azborder/index.xhtml
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2011, 03:31:28 PM »

Billion Dollar fence can be defeated by a 79 dollar invention called a ladder.

Fence won't work without armed border police.

We should hire Mexicans to police it and pay them 10 dollars an hour and all the drugs they can carry home.

Should work
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2011, 03:41:41 PM »

...We should hire Mexicans to police it and pay them 10 dollars an hour...



Chinese workers will do it for 25 cents an hour... might as well keep following the trend of where this country is going.

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2011, 04:08:30 PM »

Hogwash

Anyone can build a fraudulent web site.

If it's for real and not a scam it should be running through the States Offical site. http://az.gov/

With something like: http://az.gov/borderfencedonations.htm

In fact, click my bogus http://az.gov/borderfencedonations.htm link. 'cause az.gov web developers/maintenance will see my bs link [404 error] to there site, back link to this page & view the Fraud Link & chase down those "Donation Seekers" if it's fraudulent.

Fools & their money are soon parted...
And don't let the secure http fool you either.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2011, 04:17:23 PM »

I don't believe in the "fence" unless we take away the incentive and they still want to come.  Change the laws so anchor babies are no more.  Stop giving illegals free: education, medical care, foodstamps, welfare.  Make it WAY more difficult to get a job or housing.  Let Ice actually deport them when they are found, get rid of santuarary states and make employers check up on the legal status of new hires.  Quit being so "politically corrrect" when it comes to racial profiling.  Its the dang Mexicans that are coming across the border, so if a stray American citizen of Mexican decent accidentially gets "checked" for immigration status SO FLIPPIN WHAT!  THey should be happy the laws are being inforced.

Increase all punishments for drug violations across the board, stop the cartells from being able to pass large quantities of cocaine and marajuanna across the border and REALLY punish those getting caught selling.

If all that is in place and it still appears that we need a fence.  Then I WILL donate towards the completion of a real fence.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 04:32:40 PM »

This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. For one thing, a fence isn't going to stop them. You need a 50/50 wall. That is to say a concrete wall (NOT a gay little fence) 50 feet high and 50 feet deep from the GoM to the Pacific. It doesn't have to stop everyone, just MOST of them.

For another thing; I'm not donating money to another state government when I really have no idea what the money will end up being used for. A page to donate but no actual plans for WHAT they're gonna erect? For that matter, is it even real or an internet scam designed to steal money from people? "Oh, just trust us".  Roll Eyes

Also, they'll just do what Hitler did with the Maginot line and GO AROUND IT.  2funny
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 04:45:17 PM »

Hogwash

Anyone can build a fraudulent web site.

If it's for real and not a scam it should be running through the States Offical site. http://az.gov/

With something like: http://az.gov/borderfencedonations.htm

In fact, click my bogus http://az.gov/borderfencedonations.htm link. 'cause az.gov web developers/maintenance will see my bs link [404 error] to there site, back link to this page & view the Fraud Link & chase down those "Donation Seekers" if it's fraudulent.

Fools & their money are soon parted...
And don't let the secure http fool you.


Yhat was my 1st thought but it looks like this is an Arizona Tea Party web site. Not an offical state web site.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2011, 04:48:16 PM »

I wont donate cash but will send a box of rounds to the Miniute Men.  Evil
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2011, 05:01:07 PM »

Hogwash

Anyone can build a fraudulent web site.

If it's for real and not a scam it should be running through the States Offical site. http://az.gov/

With something like: http://az.gov/borderfencedonations.htm

In fact, click my bogus http://az.gov/borderfencedonations.htm link. 'cause az.gov web developers/maintenance will see my bs link [404 error] to there site, back link to this page & view the Fraud Link & chase down those "Donation Seekers" if it's fraudulent.

Fools & their money are soon parted...
And don't let the secure http fool you.


Yhat was my 1st thought but it looks like this is an Arizona Tea Party web site. Not an offical state web site.


If it's fraudulent, it would be foolish for the Tea Party to do that.

I reviewed the sites source code and all but the non-Official AZ graphics are linking back to az.gov. I still think if it was legit all the graphics would link back the same server.
I wouldn't trust it  Cheesy

I could link back their official graphics to my web page if I wanted.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2011, 05:44:43 PM »


 
If you really want to stop illegal immigration, join

www.numbersusa.com

It is a NON-PARTISAN group with one agenda, and that is to

 STOP THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION,  and straighten out our legal immigration channels.

Jim
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2011, 10:36:10 AM »

Obviously a fragelent web site !
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2011, 11:04:01 AM »

Obviously a fragelent web site !

fragelent?... Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2011, 12:02:09 PM »

Well for the non-geeks among us that can not read the following , it says something to the effect of AZ.Gov registered the site.
It does not mean that the site is not a money sink ripoff but it was registered by somebody claiming to be part of the Arizona state government. tswallow@azleg.gov maps to:
Travis Swallow, EEO Liaison
tswallow@azleg.state.az.us
(602) 926-5681

Make of it what you will.
For future reference try: http://centralops.net/co/DomainDossier.aspx and plug in the URL in question.

Your money, you spend it how you want to.

 Domain Name: BUILDTHEBORDERFENCE.COM
   Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
   Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
   Name Server: DNS1.AZ.GOV
   Name Server: DNS2.AZ.GOV
   Name Server: DNS3.AZ.GOV
   Status: clientDeleteProhibited
   Status: clientRenewProhibited
   Status: clientTransferProhibited
   Status: clientUpdateProhibited
   Updated Date: 14-jul-2011
   Creation Date: 22-jun-2011
   Expiration Date: 22-jun-2012

>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:35:28 UTC <<<

Queried whois.godaddy.com with "buildtheborderfence.com"...

Registrant:
   Arizona State Senate
   1700 W Washington
   Phoenix, Arizona 85007
   United States

   Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
   Domain Name: BUILDTHEBORDERFENCE.COM
      Created on: 22-Jun-11
      Expires on: 22-Jun-12
      Last Updated on: 14-Jul-11

   Administrative Contact:
      Smith, Steve  tswallow@azleg.gov
      Arizona State Senate
      1700 W Washington
      Phoenix, Arizona 85007
      United States
      +1.6029265681      Fax -- +1.6029265681

   Technical Contact:
      Smith, Steve  tswallow@azleg.gov
      Arizona State Senate
      1700 W Washington
      Phoenix, Arizona 85007
      United States
      +1.6029265681      Fax -- +1.6029265681

   Domain servers in listed order:
      DNS1.AZ.GOV
      DNS2.AZ.GOV
      DNS3.AZ.GOV

Network Whois record

Queried whois.arin.net with "n ! NET-159-87-0-0-1"...

NetRange:       159.87.0.0 - 159.87.255.255
CIDR:           159.87.0.0/16
OriginAS:       
NetName:        AZSTATE
NetHandle:      NET-159-87-0-0-1
Parent:         NET-159-0-0-0-0
NetType:        Direct Assignment
RegDate:        1992-03-25
Updated:        2005-08-16
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-159-87-0-0-1

OrgName:        Arizona State Government
OrgId:          ASG-9
Address:        100 N. 15th Ave., Suite 400
City:           Phoenix
StateProv:      AZ
PostalCode:     85007
Country:        US
RegDate:        1992-03-25
Updated:        2006-10-23
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/ASG-9

OrgTechHandle: AKU20-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Ulrey, Anny Kao
OrgTechPhone:  +1-602-364-0299
OrgTechEmail:  anny.ulrey@azdoa.gov
OrgTechRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/AKU20-ARIN

DNS records

DNS query for 111.99.87.159.in-addr.arpa returned an error from the server: NameError
name   class   type   data   time to live
www.buildtheborderfence.com   IN   A   159.87.99.111   300s   (00:05:00)
buildtheborderfence.com   IN   SOA   
server:   dns1.az.gov
email:   postmaster.email.state.az.us
serial:   2011062301
refresh:   10800
retry:   3600
expire:   604800
minimum ttl:   3600
   3600s   (01:00:00)
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2011, 12:04:24 PM »

Obviously a fragelent web site !

fragelent?... Cheesy

fragelent is a phony phart Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2011, 01:18:51 PM »



   Administrative Contact:
      Smith, Steve  tswallow@azleg.gov
      Arizona State Senate
      1700 W Washington
      Phoenix, Arizona 85007
      United States
      +1.6029265681      Fax -- +1.6029265681

   Technical Contact:
      Smith, Steve  tswallow@azleg.gov
      Arizona State Senate
      1700 W Washington
      Phoenix, Arizona 85007
      United States
      +1.6029265681      Fax -- +1.6029265681


Wow, A State Senater who is apparently the Web Site Author, since he's listed as the goto representative for web site technical issues.
That still sounds a bit off...& out of line.

So where do all the donations funds go when the Fence Isn't built by the state of AZ.? Perhaps Steve himself will build it or whatever length the donations cover. Or, maybe a new residence in Maricopa, AZ. for his family! Or perhaps he'll start his own Talent Agency.

Still sounds hokey to me. But hey, I'm from Illinois with 2 of the countries most honest Governors watching there backs when they drop the soap.

Still looks to be suspicious..... police

Where's the legal info of how those donation funds are managed when the fence isn't built by Steve or Arizona.

Steve Smith was born and raised in Michigan and graduated with honors from Michigan State University where he earned a Bachelors Degree in Marketing along with a Cognate in Business Law.   

Upon graduating, Steve co-founded a sports marketing company and ultimately moved to Arizona in 2001 and was the Marketing Director for an international, publicly traded medical device firm.  Upon the sale of that company, Steve subsequently became the Director of a Phoenix-based talent agency, a position he still holds today along with serving in the Senate.   

Steve is a strong conservative who stands for the principles of God, family, and country and is committed restoring economic development in Arizona, improving education, and fighting illegal immigration.  Steve, along with his wife and two children, live in the great city of Maricopa which is part of Legislative District 23 that he proudly represents. 
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2011, 01:53:36 PM »


 
If you really want to stop illegal immigration, join

www.numbersusa.com

It is a NON-PARTISAN group with one agenda, and that is to

 STOP THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION,  and straighten out our legal immigration channels.

Jim


Yep. I'm a member.
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