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SANDMAN5
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« on: July 26, 2011, 04:10:43 PM »

Did John Wayne ever make a war movie where he was fighting
 Germans? All I can remember is him fighting Japanese,
North Vietnamese, Indians, and other cowboys. Did I miss one?
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 04:16:41 PM »


I just watched his (lots of famous actors really) D-Day movie this weekend...

-Mike "The Longest Day, I think..."
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 04:39:55 PM »

He was in The Longest Day which was about D-Day.  Didn't see it, but he probably fought Germans.

In The Sea Chase he played a WWII German sea captain!

Looks like he swings both ways!    Grin
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 07:18:00 PM »

He was in The Longest Day which was about D-Day.  Didn't see it, but he probably fought Germans.

In The Sea Chase he played a WWII German sea captain!

Looks like he swings both ways!    Grin


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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 07:24:55 PM »

Longest Day is the only one I am aware of...

I just watched it this past weekend...plenty of stars in that one...

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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 07:25:56 PM »

John Wayne! The guy played the same character in every movie, terrible actor. He was also a racist and copped out of serving in the military during WWII because of his acting contract and yet, he's some kind of hero to so many people. I don't get it.

You want a hero from that era? Jimmy Stewart was the real deal. John Wayne was a paper tiger.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 07:35:00 PM »

John Wayne! The guy played the same character in every movie, terrible actor. He was also a racist and copped out of serving in the military during WWII because of his acting contract and yet, he's some kind of hero to so many people. I don't get it.

You want a hero from that era? Jimmy Stewart was the real deal. John Wayne was a paper tiger.


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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2011, 07:38:25 PM »

John Wayne! The guy played the same character in every movie, terrible actor. He was also a racist and copped out of serving in the military during WWII because of his acting contract and yet, he's some kind of hero to so many people. I don't get it.

You want a hero from that era? Jimmy Stewart was the real deal. John Wayne was a paper tiger.


I see that you're doing your best to stir the pot and pick a fight AGAIN.................  uglystupid2

I'm not picking a fight but I will admit to stirring the pot. That said, there's nothing incorrect about what I said and I am honestly flabbergasted at John Wayne's appeal.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2011, 08:03:38 PM »

John Wayne! The guy played the same character in every movie, terrible actor. He was also a racist and copped out of serving in the military during WWII because of his acting contract and yet, he's some kind of hero to so many people. I don't get it.

You want a hero from that era? Jimmy Stewart was the real deal. John Wayne was a paper tiger.


I see that you're doing your best to stir the pot and pick a fight AGAIN.................  uglystupid2

I'm not picking a fight but I will admit to stirring the pot. That said, there's nothing incorrect about what I said and I am honestly flabbergasted at John Wayne's appeal.

judging from your avitar, doesn't surprise me Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 10:55:01 PM »

Anvil, here ya go:

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/dgagliasso/2010/02/28/john-wayne-world-war-ii-and-the-draft/
There's dozens of other sources, either supporting this or not. I found this to be the most objective of the sources and I have no axe to grind either way. His patriotism never wavered, even though it cost him greatly in the 60's - 70's. Like him as an actor or not, he loved this country and its people, history and everything it stood for.
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 11:40:51 PM »

John Wayne! The guy played the same character in every movie, terrible actor. He was also a racist and copped out of serving in the military during WWII because of his acting contract and yet, he's some kind of hero to so many people. I don't get it.

You want a hero from that era? Jimmy Stewart was the real deal. John Wayne was a paper tiger.


I see that you're doing your best to stir the pot and pick a fight AGAIN.................  uglystupid2

I'm not picking a fight but I will admit to stirring the pot. That said, there's nothing incorrect about what I said and I am honestly flabbergasted at John Wayne's appeal.

judging from your avitar, doesn't surprise me Roll Eyes

I've been wondering if anyone is as disturbed by that as I am.

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2011, 01:37:14 AM »

 Not disturbed, not even upset-------I ignor ALL of anvil's post-- just like bobbo's--- crazy2
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2011, 05:13:01 AM »

 my buddy smokin joe has a 5 minute test.  I have developed a 5 post test.  There are several on here that have failed my test. 
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2011, 05:46:39 AM »

my buddy smokin joe has a 5 minute test.  I have developed a 5 post test.  There are several on here that have failed my test. 

Do you guys "scent" your perimeter as a warning of pending tests?  2funny




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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2011, 06:08:54 AM »

I don't know or care about why the Duke didn't serve in the war, but seems like
I remember reading that several big-name actors were granted "immunity" from
serving because the gov't felt they could perform a better service here by
keeping morale up and giving Americans hope. Over there they would just be
another guy carrying a rifle. Here they could inspire millions. Plus, think how
dis-heartening it would be to see "John Wayne KIA" on the 6 oclock news.
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2011, 06:25:45 AM »

Anvil, here ya go:

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/dgagliasso/2010/02/28/john-wayne-world-war-ii-and-the-draft/
There's dozens of other sources, either supporting this or not. I found this to be the most objective of the sources and I have no axe to grind either way. His patriotism never wavered, even though it cost him greatly in the 60's - 70's. Like him as an actor or not, he loved this country and its people, history and everything it stood for.


Well that piece addresses his service (or lack thereof) and the "reasons" behind it. It doesn't address his racism. Read his Playboy interview from I think 1961? Take a look for yourself and you'll see that he really didn't love all that this country stood for.

As far as his family/medical status preventing him from entering the war, that's BS. My grandfather had two legs that were of uneven length by an inch. He was originally rejected for service but put up a stink and was assigned to BB-40 as an anti-aircraft gunner. He also had a wife and a son. John Wayne could have served if he really wanted to, but de didn't really want to. Did he do some good as a morale booster? Sure. But I'll again refer you to Jimmy Stewart for the mettle of a real hero. John Wayne was an actor and not even a very good one. Nothing more.

I don't hate John Wayne either. I think he was probably like most men of his day in his certain attitudes. But he's a conservative icon, as if he's a standard to live up to. He's no standard.
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2011, 08:11:02 AM »

Anvil,

You've  posted over 600 times, in the last 100 post you've been a self proclaimed expert in the following fields:

bluegrass
PETA
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Second Amendment
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and now a John Wayne expert. With that said 18 post out of 100 is expert status, with 600 post that would make you an expert in 108 areas taking the average.  Why are you wasteing your time on this forum when you could be running the universe?  2funny
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2011, 08:48:23 AM »

Exactly. Dude, get with the program already.

Nothing burns my gluteus maximus more than a guy who is well informed on a variety of issues, has freakin' opinions AND is prepared to voice them in a discussion.
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2011, 10:22:24 AM »

part of the reason he didn't serve was his age, also is some of his comments from the pb article.

http://www.flixster.com/actor/john-wayne/john-wayne-biography

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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2011, 10:26:01 AM »

part of the reason he didn't serve was his age, also is some of his comments from the pb article.

http://www.flixster.com/actor/john-wayne/john-wayne-biography

I think I'm on a few avoid lists.  :'(


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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2011, 11:10:49 AM »

my buddy smokin joe has a 5 minute test.  I have developed a 5 post test.  There are several on here that have failed my test. 

 cooldude

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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2011, 11:28:58 AM »

Why are you wasteing your time on this forum when you could be running the universe?  2funny

What makes you think I'm not doing both?
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2011, 03:01:31 PM »

my buddy smokin joe has a 5 minute test.  I have developed a 5 post test.  There are several on here that have failed my test.  

Dang Razor......I failed it in two!!....... cooldude Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2011, 03:31:23 PM »


John Wayne had enormous physical presence.  In most of his movies, he was type cast as the leading man. He became a role model to many. Might even call him an American icon.  Wonder how many young men wanted to become a Marine after watching The Sands of Iwo Jima? John Ford used him to create a whole list of great Westerns that are still popular today. Glad I don't read gossip tabloids cause I still love him.



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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2011, 07:30:45 PM »

I hate it when someone hijacks a thread to inject their opinion about something that has nothing to do with the original intent of the thread.  Those people are called trolls, I believe.

Anyway, yes, the only movie I recall John Wayne battling Germans in was "The Longest Day".  His character broke his ankle during a parachute jump and I can't remember if he actually shot at anyone during that film.  Anyone? 


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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2011, 08:57:36 PM »

Man I can remember when Big Al was the only ass on here.


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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2011, 09:18:43 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2011, 05:11:36 AM »

"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you never know if they are true" - Abraham Lincoln ...
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2011, 06:46:23 AM »

"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you never know if they are true" - Abraham Lincoln ...

 2funny crazy2 2funny
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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2011, 06:54:10 AM »



LOL  Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2011, 08:19:01 AM »

Man I can remember when Big Al was the only ass on here.

I'm unable to resist saying that I know Big Al, and he's an awesome guy, and a very
good motorcycle rider...

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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2011, 09:08:03 AM »

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I'm unable to resist saying that I know Big Al, and he's an awesome guy, and a very
good motorcycle rider...
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Yes indeed...just don't offer him any hot sauce!!! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2011, 09:20:18 AM »

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I'm unable to resist saying that I know Big Al, and he's an awesome guy, and a very
good motorcycle rider...
-Mike

Yes indeed...just don't offer him any hot sauce!!! Roll Eyes

I've heard it's worse to accept HIS offer of "hot sauce".  Wink
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« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2011, 07:05:05 PM »

He was in The Longest Day which was about D-Day.  Didn't see it, but he probably fought Germans.

In The Sea Chase he played a WWII German sea captain!

Looks like he swings both ways!    Grin


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I think he also played Atilla the Hun once...
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« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2011, 07:07:01 PM »

John Wayne! The guy played the same character in every movie, terrible actor. He was also a racist and copped out of serving in the military during WWII because of his acting contract and yet, he's some kind of hero to so many people. I don't get it.

You want a hero from that era? Jimmy Stewart was the real deal. John Wayne was a paper tiger.

Marion had flat feet that got him 'booted out'

as the Duke would say 'I'm not gonna hit ya,  like H3LL I'm not'
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« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2011, 07:09:05 PM »

my buddy smokin joe has a 5 minute test.  I have developed a 5 post test.  There are several on here that have failed my test. 

I wonder if I passed.  (no I don't, if you don't like me that's your prerogative)
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« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2011, 03:27:22 AM »

my buddy smokin joe has a 5 minute test.  I have developed a 5 post test.  There are several on here that have failed my test. 

I wonder if I passed.  (no I don't, if you don't like me that's your prerogative)

I just poinked on "show last posts of this member" for you and scanned a page of it. I didn't see any
posts where you spit in any other members faces, but I did get stuck reading a couple of interesting
posts about the Allman Bros... why would you wonder even for a second?

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« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2011, 05:04:36 PM »

my buddy smokin joe has a 5 minute test.  I have developed a 5 post test.  There are several on here that have failed my test. 

I wonder if I passed.  (no I don't, if you don't like me that's your prerogative)

I just poinked on "show last posts of this member" for you and scanned a page of it. I didn't see any
posts where you spit in any other members faces, but I did get stuck reading a couple of interesting
posts about the Allman Bros... why would you wonder even for a second?

-Mike
I can be as caustic as the next guy, well maybe.  I find I can disagree without being insulting about it.
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« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2011, 07:44:43 PM »

Its a crying shame that the "Ignore" feature only works on PM's and not on regular posts, also. Sad
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« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2011, 04:43:20 AM »

Anyone remember our member Paris?

occasionally he would have a guess what year this car is post and once I guessed right on one and he sent me an autographed poster of the Duke,    It hangs proudly in my office.

 most of my clients are what I would call of dark complexions and never had anything but good things to say about the pic that is framed in my office.   No one ever suggested he was a racist in all these years
but I am not saying it is not what was in his heart, just not in his public image

Also have a large pic of Cassius Clay standing over Sonny Liston in fight 2,  a 3 stooges one of Dewey cheatem and howe lawyers and the Rockwell freedom of speech pic  I have eclectic tastes

The duke one always gets the most comments

If you were awarded medal of honor the govmt took you around on war bond tours in WWII to raise money and lift morale.  The fellows who lifted the flag on IWO also got shipped around to raise money

Duke did much good   Contrast that with a certain woman of low moral fiber who went to N Vietnam and took a pic on an anti aircraft position in enemy colors

I will continue to like the Duke thank you for the Info Anvil

Al, stay away from the sauce dude.....You are plenty funny enough normal  whatever that is for you

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