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 I think i know who paid the ultimate price ! And now everybody hopefully knows and will remember them for what they gave in the name of " FREEDOM " |
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2011, 02:09:31 PM » |
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great pic and post
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2011, 02:15:31 PM » |
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ricoman/ Indeed we all do. At sometime or another !
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 04:34:06 PM » |
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I would say photoshopped.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 04:39:40 PM » |
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I would say photoshopped.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2011, 04:50:48 PM » |
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the eagle doesn't cast a shadow, most likely photo shop. still, the meaning is there.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2011, 05:15:44 PM » |
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I would say photoshopped.
I would be inclined to agree. For you "Photoshop Freaks",,,, Yeah, I know the word 'CONSERVATIVE" is in the URL, but look anyway. Originally in Minneapolis Star Tribune. http://theconservativetreehouse.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/friday-dusty-keyboard-alert/http://www.e-manonline.com/blog.php?entry_id=10121 |
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2011, 05:22:51 PM » |
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I'm still skeptical. The photo has a very "Thomas Kinkade" quality to it and I've seen fakes with backstories before.
But I hope I'm wrong. If real it's a pretty amazing shot, both for it's symbolism and composition.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2011, 05:23:34 PM » |
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I would say photoshopped.
who gives a rats ass!!!!!!! if it's photoshopped |
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2011, 05:25:07 PM » |
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That's probably as close to proof as you can get that it's been photoshopped. Taking a cue from Feaux News. |
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2011, 05:51:09 PM » |
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These days it is tough to take a really astonishing photograph without someone claiming it was photoshopped. How about weighing in on this one.  GOD SMILING |
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2011, 06:17:26 PM » |
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Trying to determine if a photo was manipulated is very difficult when it is low resolution. Both of these photos are less than 100 DPI, so there isn't much to go on. It's like the blurry photos of a dot in the sky claiming to be a UFO. The chance that these photos are "enhanced" is probably pretty good, but impossible to say from these examples.
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2011, 06:31:51 PM » |
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Nice to have patriotic pics & god smiling on people, but I am a bit of a cynic and don't think many bald eagles cruise around cemeteries looking to land on headstones. Pic is certainly patriotic, but doubt the authenticity. Photoshop is great for things like this. But i am a nonbeliever.  |
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2011, 06:38:51 PM » |
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Photoshopped-not photoshopped-who gives a rats patootee. Very symbolic and i like it. Iffin it turns out to be enhanced-well some ones heart were in the right place. And thats all i'm gonna say bout dat.  RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2011, 06:40:05 PM » |
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I would say photoshopped.
who gives a rats ass!!!!!!! if it's photoshopped hey sugerbear, i think the pic is inspiring, but I just do not think it is authentic IMHO. not dissing anyone, i just like to know if things are factual or not.  |
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2011, 06:46:48 PM » |
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All the paintings on the walls in my house are fakes as well....I still hung them there on purpose !
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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2011, 07:40:52 PM » |
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Right on RoadKill. Why anyone would care if it was photo shopped is beyond me. Some people just have to pee in the pool I guess.
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2011, 09:40:39 PM » |
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Right on RoadKill. Why anyone would care if it was photo shopped is beyond me. Some people just have to pee in the pool I guess.
Mark
Because if it's not real then it's just another manipulative piece of phony art. You shouldn't need fake photos for inspiration. There's enough of the real deal out there to keep you inspired for the rest of your life...       So if it's fake, it's kind of insulting. For that matter, read a few great books on the subject. Ghost Soldiers by Hampton Sides, Where Men Win Glory by John Krakauer, To Kingdom Come by Robert J. Mrazek, The Night Stalkers By Michael J. Durant and Steven Hartov, Blackhawk Down, Band of Brothers etc. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2011, 03:51:53 AM » |
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I am a bit of a cynic and don't think many bald eagles cruise around cemeteries looking to land on headstones One of the last times I rode down this road (Old Salkehatchie River Road south of Charleston SC) I passed a Bald Eagle standing right beside the road, hanging out with four or five vultures. I wouldn't be surprised to see one anywhere. -Mike
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2011, 04:52:26 AM » |
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2011, 07:32:46 AM » |
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but............i don't see you yelling "photoshopped" when someone post a pic of a nearly naked woman with FLAWLESS skin and big ----'s. you think their NOT photoshopped? playboy, penthouse, ads on tv for pete's sake, everything is photoshopped, but your quiet about them. maybe you should snopes it as well.  |
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but............i don't see you yelling "photoshopped" when someone post a pic of a nearly naked woman with FLAWLESS skin and big ----'s.
you think their NOT photoshopped?
playboy, penthouse, ads on tv for pete's sake, everything is photoshopped, but your quiet about them. How do you know whether or not I complain about p-shopping in porn? Actually, I don't bother with Playboy for that very reason. So yeah, I kinda do. As a matter of fact, I get most of my skin fixes from egotastic and that's almost all candids. |
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2011, 08:31:29 AM » |
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One of the last times I rode down this road (Old Salkehatchie River Road south of Charleston SC) I passed a Bald Eagle standing right beside the road, hanging out with four or five vultures. I wouldn't be surprised to see one anywhere. -Mike Think maybe those vultures you saw were just waiting around for some poor motorcyclist to come flying down that road and hitting all that loose gravel?? Looks dangerous to me.  |
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2011, 08:51:39 AM » |
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Photos are commonly used for two things: art, and representing factual data, like a crime scene photo. It is common for photo art to be digitally manipulated, as it’s almost expected these days, but when a photo is used to document an event, it is taboo to modify it. Many “motivational” pictures represent themselves as factual data, when in fact they are simply artwork. That is what bothers me. I think a lot of manipulated photos started out as artwork to represent a viewpoint, comedy, or emotion, and then ended up being represented as factual data by a propagandist.
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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2011, 08:56:49 AM » |
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I would say photo-shopped.
who gives a rats ass!!!!!!! if it's photo-shopped I agree on the who the hell cares. I'm wondering if the ones poking the photo-shopped have ever served time in the forces. I sent this around to a lot of my friends about a month ago. Proud of it then and proud of it now. Semper fi. |
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I would say photo-shopped.
who gives a rats ass!!!!!!! if it's photo-shopped I agree on the who the hell cares. I'm wondering if the ones poking the photo-shopped have ever served time in the forces. I sent this around to a lot of my friends about a month ago. Proud of it then and proud of it now. Semper fi. I certainly don't give a rat's ass if this is a photoshop rendering or not. Also, do not understand how pointing out that it is likely manipulated art is somehow unpatriotic or has anything to do with being in the military. Oh, by the way, USN for a few years and patched up quite a few marines, so Semper Fi back at you. |
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Photos are commonly used for two things: art, and representing factual data, like a crime scene photo. It is common for photo art to be digitally manipulated, as it’s almost expected these days, but when a photo is used to document an event, it is taboo to modify it. Many “motivational” pictures represent themselves as factual data, when in fact they are simply artwork. That is what bothers me. I think a lot of manipulated photos started out as artwork to represent a viewpoint, comedy, or emotion, and then ended up being represented as factual data by a propagandist.
Exactly, if it's manipulated and presented as art then that's fine. If it's manipulated and presented as a genuine photograph then that's out of line. That's just how I feel about things like this in general. And I don't see what having served has anything to do with it. A fraud's a fraud. If this image is a manipulated image (and I don't know that it is) then it's profoundly disrespectful to present it as genuine considering the subject matter. |
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Photos are commonly used for two things: art, and representing factual data, like a crime scene photo. It is common for photo art to be digitally manipulated, as it’s almost expected these days, but when a photo is used to document an event, it is taboo to modify it. Many “motivational” pictures represent themselves as factual data, when in fact they are simply artwork. That is what bothers me. I think a lot of manipulated photos started out as artwork to represent a viewpoint, comedy, or emotion, and then ended up being represented as factual data by a propagandist.
Bobbo. You are right on the money. There is nothing wrong with a photo illustration. I use them all of the time. But a photo is supposed to be a mechanical recording of a visual event. It is the documentation of a moment in time. Passing off an illustration as a photo is lying. It is claiming that something existed that did not. |
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Whether or not it is photo shopped is irrelevant. However it was produced it was intended to express the relationship between patriotism and sacrifice. It is an art form, real or manipulated.
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« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2011, 06:14:00 PM » |
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Sad to read some of you live in such a fragile world that you could be bothered to wonder if the eagle was their or photo shopped. I say sad, because the rest of us get the point of the eagle picture as well as the ones with the soldiers. By the way, the dogs are always good to see. Mark |
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I don't post on here much, since I work driving a tanker with hazmat 5 and sometimes 6 days a week. Arguments like this is the reason I don't post much on the main board. I never ceases to amaze me what kind of bull is stirred up, and this is one of many examples. Was it live or was it Memorex??? Who cares??? Its the content of the picture, not who or what was done to manufacture it. Grow up ya'll. I'm so thankful I live in North Texas. We don't have these kind of "discussions" there on the Texas Board. So go ahead and ridicule me for my opinion.  Am I an a**hole? Maybe. Opinions vary The Pics were great, no matter HOW they were done. Walt |
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Sad to read some of you live in such a fragile world that you could be bothered to wonder if the eagle was their or photo shopped. I say sad, because the rest of us get the point of the eagle picture as well as the ones with the soldiers. By the way, the dogs are always good to see. Mark Mark, I get the point of the picture. I just have an issue with it being passed off as genuine photograph if it's not. |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
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Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
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Won't Jack and Vivian be upset when they find out the picture was photo-shopped!!!!! What'a bunch of cynics. |
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Won't Jack and Vivian be upset when they find out the picture was photo-shopped!!!!! What'a bunch of cynics. It's comforting to believe they will never see this thread. The problem with being someone who has opinion on everything is the increased opportunity to reveal your own failings. |
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since you asked me Anvil, I think a person could appreciate a photoshopped picture as it is an excellent way to show a backstory, an emotion and a message why put fruit on your cereal? why put milk or sugar in coffee why put chrome on a Valkyrie But I did like the pics you posted above with the soldiers, very moving 1st is real 2nd I am told is a composite   next someone will be telling me that refrigerator girl is photoshopped I need to believe the Lord created that wonderful young woman and not some geek on a computer (apologies to all the geeks on this board Serk) lol  you knew I was going there, tell the truth now |
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I guess this sums it up... can we get on now? great story. |
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next someone will be telling me that refrigerator girl is photoshopped I need to believe the Lord created that wonderful young woman and not some geek on a computer (apologies to all the geeks on this board Serk) lol you knew I was going there, tell the truth now Sorry Oss... she weighs 360lbs... until the pic was "photoshopped" |
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