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« on: July 31, 2011, 06:30:12 PM » |
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Rode a friends hardly the other day. The one that looks like our tourer. not impressed except for the small thumb wheel under the throttle to hold your throttle for hand resting purposes. I know there are a TON of options out for the valk to do the same thing, but most of the ones i've seen are Crazy expensive, or look like an add on. I went and picked up a set of controls off of a road glide from a local garage sale for 25bucks.. Anybody know of or see any problems?
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 06:36:40 PM » |
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I don't know how to do but it's been done before.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 06:39:20 PM » |
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I believe John Schmidt has harley clutch/brake controls on his bike. Maybe he will tell you how he did his.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 07:19:51 PM » |
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For stealth throttle locks without standing out like a sore thumb I used the Madcorider "rooster-n-Lock".  Contact Bill Arbuckle at Madcorider.com |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 08:20:36 PM » |
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I've done three bikes so far, learned on my own, then did it on two others at the owners request. Frankly, if you're not good with electrical stuff, I wouldn't recommend you do it. You're adapting Harley control wiring to a Honda main harness. The approach is fairly simple; take one circuit at a time and convert it. The other thing to keep in mind is you're losing the Honda start switch set up and the choke control on the handlebar. For the start switch/button, you have to wire in a relay to kill the headlight for starting. I wired one in series with a second one for the Hi/Lo beam. The choke actuator will need something different, below is a picture of how I did it...also works very well and should have come from the factory that way. You basically have to remove all the wires on the control side from the two 9-pin connectors in the headlight, and replace them with the wires from the HD controls. A third problem is wiring the kill switch in conjunction with the start switch. Re. the clutch switch, remember it lets you start the bike in gear by pulling in the clutch. You lose that but can get it back by installing a hydraulic brake switch down by the clutch on the back of the engine. The nice thing about the HD controls....you have separate turn signal circuits, left side button for left turn, right side button for right turn. You can now wire in a timer unit, can't do that with the OEM set up except for the Kissan unit which doesn't hold a candle to my setup. Lastly, you have to send your throttle cables out to get them converted at the top to work with HD controls. Since mine were Barnett cables, the cost was small....but still took time. I've had mine on for at least five years...maybe longer, and have been trouble free. When I bought the set, I got the larger diameter master cyl. pistons for both sides. The clutch works easier and I only have to carry one spare repair kit. It's so simple to change a piston set I can do it on the road with a pair of needle nose. So far I haven't had to do anything to it except repair a wire I pinched. Finding it was a real PITA, but that was my fault. The HD controls are all one piece, the master cylinders, switch boxes, and controls. I ran all the wiring inside the bars after installing 1.25" bars. The conversion can get involved, especially if you don't know what you're doing. I converted a friend's bike(actually repaired) after he had paid someone else to do it. He made an absolute mess out of the job, I cut out all his work and put it all back to original, then started over. He claimed to be able to do anything on the bike, after looking at it I'm surprised it didn't burn to the ground. When I first looked at it, he had six relays installed....I have no idea why. When done, I had two and it was a neat and clean installation. His has been in place for three years with no trouble either.   |
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Patrick
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 06:43:35 AM » |
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I think the problem I envision would be rejection.. If a Harley part is put on one of our monster's, wouldn't we have to feed it an anti-rejection medicine for the rest of its life ??  |
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 06:48:47 AM » |
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I agree, but at the current price of $130, the throttle lock is awfully close to (if not beyond) "Crazy expensive." And we are hijacking YoungPUP's thread regarding Harley Davidson hand controls.  |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 07:37:12 AM » |
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I think the problem I envision would be rejection.. If a Harley part is put on one of our monster's, wouldn't we have to feed it an anti-rejection medicine for the rest of its life ?? Hey Patrick, are you incineratin'......  Actually, I've found my HD controls are quite happy...they have a HD fairing to keep them company in their new home, and have some nice HD mirrors mounted on them as well along with HD grips. In my case, HD stands for "Honda Davidson." As for using a throttle lock, had one....took it off and installed an Audiovox cruise control(note the little gray control box on the left side). Works great, holds speed within a couple mph up or downhill, something a throttle lock won't do, and did it for less than $35. |
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 08:49:36 AM » |
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Hi John, how the heck are you ?? You know when I'm kiddin' , most others do too.. I need to get out and ride that ole girl, I haven't been on it in a while..
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The Anvil
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 09:18:39 AM » |
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The stock Honda controls kinda suck really. From the chintsy choke lever to the throttle cables exiting on the front of the housing. I mean they work, but they could have done better overall.
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2011, 09:42:03 AM » |
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I really like my OEM grips, but - what kind of grips do you have? They look real comfy too... -Mike "Harley grips, I guess, and probably won't fit OEM bars?  " |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2011, 10:16:19 AM » |
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I really like my OEM grips, but - what kind of grips do you have? They look real comfy too... -Mike "Harley grips, I guess, and probably won't fit OEM bars? " Yes Mike, they're HD grips. The bars on most bikes are 1" at the controls and at the center where the clamps are. Mine are 1 1/4" bars but are smaller in those two places. The major difference would be the length in some cases, plus the notches for the throttle cables. As for those grips, I changed them due to a large dent "someone" placed on them while at Bike Week a couple years back. Really ticked me off, if you look closely you'll see they have a metal section near the bottom. So after changing them, my first ride to Daytona to visit J&P Cycles, and then the big HD dealer next door, I'll be darned if someone didn't put a huge dent in the end of them. I checked around but of course nobody saw anything, so I just decided to leave them on there. The first set was real obvious, looked like someone used channel locks and squeezed them. Probably thought it would prevent me from using the throttle. Some children never learn I guess. |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2011, 10:21:13 AM » |
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Hi John, how the heck are you ?? You know when I'm kiddin' , most others do too.. I need to get out and ride that ole girl, I haven't been on it in a while..
Oh yeah, that's how I took it. Your post reminded me....I haven't been over to the "left" coast to see our mutual bud in Crystal River in a long time...gosh, been 2-3 yrs. at least. Since Charlie isn't around anymore I don't get over that way much. If you get down this way, shoot me a note. |
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The Anvil
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2011, 10:23:47 AM » |
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As for those grips, I changed them due to a large dent "someone" placed on them while at Bike Week a couple years back. Really ticked me off, if you look closely you'll see they have a metal section near the bottom. So after changing them, my first ride to Daytona to visit J&P Cycles, and then the big HD dealer next door, I'll be darned if someone didn't put a huge dent in the end of them. I checked around but of course nobody saw anything, so I just decided to leave them on there. The first set was real obvious, looked like someone used channel locks and squeezed them. Probably thought it would prevent me from using the throttle. Some children never learn I guess. That's pretty douchey. |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
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Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2011, 12:57:18 PM » |
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That's pretty douchey.
Anvil, not sure where you're directing the comment. If toward the act and the person(s) responsible...I agree. In both cases, I was parked midst dozens of V-twins and again....in both cases the bikes on either side of me were gone when I returned and there were different riders present. When I asked about it, they were equally disgusted that someone would purposely damage another bike. I just wrote it off as someone that still has a juvie opinion of anything but the bike they ride, something I don't personally share. I probably have more miles/hours on an old flat or knucklehead in my day than a lot of the current population that are riding newer ones. It was either HD or Indian back then, like an old girlfriend...I still get some nostalgic vibes when I hear the distinctive sound. Kinda like an old aircraft still flying with a radial up front, you just can't mistake that sound.  |
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2011, 01:11:35 PM » |
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John, email sent..
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The Anvil
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2011, 01:13:49 PM » |
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That's pretty douchey.
Anvil, not sure where you're directing the comment. If toward the act and the person(s) responsible...I agree. In both cases, I was parked midst dozens of V-twins and again....in both cases the bikes on either side of me were gone when I returned and there were different riders present. When I asked about it, they were equally disgusted that someone would purposely damage another bike. I just wrote it off as someone that still has a juvie opinion of anything but the bike they ride, something I don't personally share. I probably have more miles/hours on an old flat or knucklehead in my day than a lot of the current population that are riding newer ones. It was either HD or Indian back then, like an old girlfriend...I still get some nostalgic vibes when I hear the distinctive sound. Kinda like an old aircraft still flying with a radial up front, you just can't mistake that sound. No I was directing it at you. How dare you park a Honda near an H-D dealer!  I kid of course. No I was referring to whoever would do a thing like that in the first place. Odds are too that's it's some soft-palmed RUB trying to impress someone. |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2011, 02:17:27 PM » |
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That's what I figured, at least that's how I took it. As for the damage, you're probably right on that.... |
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