Does anyone have a photo of a child passenger?

[Gryphon Rider]

I'm on my lunch break at work and I'm trying to come up with a design for passenger arm rests at the right height for a child, so if anyone has on the web a side view of a Valkyrie with a child sitting properly on the passenger seat, I would appreciate you posting it.  The age or height of the child (if you know it) is helpful as well.  I've already done a lot of online research in the past to see if there is already something appropriate, have probably seen photos of everything available, and have decided I can come up with something safer.

[R J]

Best I can do. we had just got back from a 10 to 20 mile run, and mommy had taken her helmet off.  She used the saddle bag lids for her foot rests, and grabs a belt grandpa wears around his middle for her to hang onto.

In this picture I think she is 5 or 6,  don't have anything current. she is 8 now and I added a chunk of 4X4 post to the foot rests and she can reach them in the seat.   Still uses the belt, and she now has a skid jacket if needed.    Her Uncle takes her and her sister now.    Sister is almost 5.



Red just told me this is a picture where we backed the bike out and she jumped on for a picture.      I didn't think I would go riding dressed like that, but this picture was in my riding pictures with the grandkids.      Duh.....

[MacDragon]

Huh???  Where'd you come from???

[Serk]

She's 6 in these pics (And tall for her age)

[hubcapsc]

Frank Smoak made a set for his son, both arms went up and down independently... I used
to be able to find a picture of it, but not now...

Anywho... Carolyn uses the Ultimate ones, and you may not be able to see from pictures that
they can be set at many different heights...

-Mike

[G-Man]

I'm on my lunch break at work and I'm trying to come up with a design for passenger arm rests at the right height for a child, so if anyone has on the web a side view of a Valkyrie with a child sitting properly on the passenger seat, I would appreciate you posting it.  The age or height of the child (if you know it) is helpful as well.  I've already done a lot of online research in the past to see if there is already something appropriate, have probably seen photos of everything available, and have decided I can come up with something safer.

There is a product called Love Handles that is adjustable up and down, in and out.  Works for my wife, my 17 yo daughter and 11 yo son.  Good product and the owner is a good hugger.  Met her at the NY MC show and she gave me a biiiiiig hug.   

[VALKIFIED]

Best I can do. we had just got back from a 10 to 20 mile run, and mommy had taken her helmet off.  She used the saddle bag lids for her foot rests, and grabs a belt grandpa wears around his middle for her to hang onto.

In this picture I think she is 5 or 6,  don't have anything current. she is 8 now and I added a chunk of 4X4 post to the foot rests and she can reach them in the seat.   Still uses the belt, and she now has a skid jacket if needed.    Her Uncle takes her and her sister now.    Sister is almost 5.



Red just told me this is a picture where we backed the bike out and she jumped on for a picture.      I didn't think I would go riding dressed like that, but this picture was in my riding pictures with the grandkids.      Duh.....

That bike looks dang good for 235K on it. Sorry about the thread jack.

[G-Man]

Forgot the link

http://www.getlovehandles.com/index.html

[Gryphon Rider]

Forgot the link

http://www.getlovehandles.com/index.html

I'm not crazy about how these armrests easily swing out.  If the child falls asleep she can fall out the side.

[Gryphon Rider]

She's 6 in these pics (And tall for her age)

That pic is exactly what I was looking for!  Would your daughter prefer that her backrest were moved forward a little to put her closer to you?

[The Anvil]

She's 6 in these pics (And tall for her age)

That pic is exactly what I was looking for!  Would your daughter prefer that her backrest were moved forward a little to put her closer to you?

My nine year would. Like with Serk's girl there's a lot of room between her back and the back rest. But armrests wouldn't help her unless the seat pad was moved forward or the passenger pegs up and back.

And you WANT the armrests to open easily. If they don't they could trap you in a getoff. Bad, bad news. If the kid's not old enough to not fall off the bike sideways then they probably shouldn't be on it at all.

[Serk]

That pic is exactly what I was looking for!  Would your daughter prefer that her backrest were moved forward a little to put her closer to you?

Gimme a bit and I'll ask her... Those pics are almost 3 years old now, and she's grown quite a bit in the intervening years. She usually sits further back against the backrest now as opposed to holding onto my gut for dear life. (Those pictures were I believe the very first ride after momma reluctantly okay'ed the endeavor)

I started off with one of those wide belts with handles on it for her to hold on to, but that eventually went by the wayside.

Another procedure that we've gotten that's been very helpful is periodically (Sometimes every 2-3 minutes) I'll tap one of her legs a certain number of times (1-5) and she is to tap my back the same number of times back, that way I know she's awake and paying attention. If she doesn't tap back, I'll give her another tap, and if still no tap back, we're pulling over for a bit...


Update - Just asked her (She's standing behind me ) She said she wouldn't have wanted the backrest further up, she liked the ability to move around a little bit. And confirmed, now she sits up against the backrest entirely... Of course, we're getting the opinion of an 8 year old here, so that's subject to change from minute to minute... Case in point, as she went skipping out of my office, she proclaimed "...but it would have been okay if it was a LITTLE tighter!"...

[The Anvil]

A few years back the inventor (and I use that term loosely) of this ridiculous contraption...



...was going on forums soliciting feedback for the product. It blows my mind that they guy actually thought this might be a good idea.

[Fudd]

The little red "X" strikes again.

[Bobbo]

A few years back the inventor (and I use that term loosely) of this ridiculous contraption...



...was going on forums soliciting feedback for the product. It blows my mind that they guy actually thought this might be a good idea.

That's similar to some of the proposed "safety laws" the AMA fights against.

[Rocketman]

A few years back the inventor (and I use that term loosely) of this ridiculous contraption...



...was going on forums soliciting feedback for the product. It blows my mind that they guy actually thought this might be a good idea.

That's similar to some of the proposed "safety laws" the AMA fights against.

I looked at the code, and found the link.  The picture he's trying to post is:


Not sure why it didn't appear the first time.

Yeah, that looks like it could be a bad day.  If everyone kept their seats when you went down, it would be good.  However, we call them "get offs" for a reason.

[Gryphon Rider]

I can't see any photo (or red X for that matter) or link for the "ridiculous contraption."

My nine year would. Like with Serk's girl there's a lot of room between her back and the back rest. But armrests wouldn't help her unless the seat pad was moved forward or the passenger pegs up and back.
And you WANT the armrests to open easily. If they don't they could trap you in a getoff. Bad, bad news. If the kid's not old enough to not fall off the bike sideways then they probably shouldn't be on it at all.

It's not my intention to take a child on a ride long enough for him/her to fall asleep, but I'd rather design for that circumstance.  There is also the possibility of the wrong combination of unlikely events that could cause a sideways fall.  I am thinking of having the armrests hinge up and out, kind of like the ZTechnik ones shown below, but different in ways you'll see if or when I get mine finished.  I also have a plan for higher footpegs that is a little more elegant than wood blocks and tape.

[The Anvil]

I can't see any photo (or red X for that matter) or link for the "ridiculous contraption."

My nine year would. Like with Serk's girl there's a lot of room between her back and the back rest. But armrests wouldn't help her unless the seat pad was moved forward or the passenger pegs up and back.
And you WANT the armrests to open easily. If they don't they could trap you in a getoff. Bad, bad news. If the kid's not old enough to not fall off the bike sideways then they probably shouldn't be on it at all.

It's not my intention to take a child on a ride long enough for him/her to fall asleep, but I'd rather design for that circumstance.  There is also the possibility of the wrong combination of unlikely events that could cause a sideways fall.  I am thinking of having the armrests hinge up and out, kind of like the ZTechnik ones shown below, but different in ways you'll see if or when I get mine finished.  I also have a plan for higher footpegs that is a little more elegant than wood blocks and tape.

Okay I've get what you're saying. As long as there's some way for separation in the event of a crash.

Search the "babe cage" for the contraption. You won't be disappointed.

[Sharkey]

Here is my 8 year old. The armrests are the Ultimate ones. My son has fallen asleep before, and they keep him in just fine.

I'm on my lunch break at work and I'm trying to come up with a design for passenger arm rests at the right height for a child, so if anyone has on the web a side view of a Valkyrie with a child sitting properly on the passenger seat, I would appreciate you posting it.  The age or height of the child (if you know it) is helpful as well.  I've already done a lot of online research in the past to see if there is already something appropriate, have probably seen photos of everything available, and have decided I can come up with something safer.

[Rocketman]

A few years back the inventor (and I use that term loosely) of this ridiculous contraption...



...was going on forums soliciting feedback for the product. It blows my mind that they guy actually thought this might be a good idea.

That's similar to some of the proposed "safety laws" the AMA fights against.

I looked at the code, and found the link.  The picture he's trying to post is:


Not sure why it didn't appear the first time.

Yeah, that looks like it could be a bad day.  If everyone kept their seats when you went down, it would be good.  However, we call them "get offs" for a reason.

OK, that's messed up.  I checked the link, I even checked my post with the "preview" button.  The image showed up when I previewed it, but apparently it didn't show up when I posted, and I didn't verify it.

Try just clicking on this link:
http://thekneeslider.com/images/motorcyclerollcage.jpg

I've never had a problem with this forum before.  Scott?  Carl?  Any ideas?

[MacDragon]

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OK, that's messed up.  I checked the link, I even checked my post with the "preview" button.  The image showed up when I previewed it, but apparently it didn't show up when I posted, and I didn't verify it.

Try just clicking on this link:
http://thekneeslider.com/images/motorcyclerollcage.jpg

I've never had a problem with this forum before.  Scott?  Carl?  Any ideas?
[/quote]


This is what I get when I click that link.

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[ComradBlack]

Riding along with my son-in-law and grandson on a SE Vrod

[R J]

Best I can do. we had just got back from a 10 to 20 mile run, and mommy had taken her helmet off.  She used the saddle bag lids for her foot rests, and grabs a belt grandpa wears around his middle for her to hang onto.

In this picture I think she is 5 or 6,  don't have anything current. she is 8 now and I added a chunk of 4X4 post to the foot rests and she can reach them in the seat.   Still uses the belt, and she now has a skid jacket if needed.    Her Uncle takes her and her sister now.    Sister is almost 5.



Red just told me this is a picture where we backed the bike out and she jumped on for a picture.      I didn't think I would go riding dressed like that, but this picture was in my riding pictures with the grandkids.      Duh.....

That bike looks dang good for 235K on it. Sorry about the thread jack.

It has a ton of Mother's Wax products on it, from the get go.

Used to wax it twice a year, at the start of the season and just before I put it away for the winter.    Those 2 colors polish up real nice.

[Walküre]

I'm not crazy about how these armrests easily swing out.  If the child falls asleep she can fall out the side.

Case was made, you DON'T want to be totally stuck to the bike in a LOT of circumstances. That being said, when I had my wing, my daughter would ride (about 8 YO), but fall asleep occasionally. I got the swing-out arm rests, but made some pieces of Delrin/Nylon, that held the arms in, unless there was substantial pressure (more than just laying against them). However, ANY impact would have released them.

And you WANT the armrests to open easily. If they don't they could trap you in a getoff. Bad, bad news. If the kid's not old enough to not fall off the bike sideways then they probably shouldn't be on it at all.

As mentioned above, young OR old, they can still fall asleep. We got stuck out late one night, and I rode 30 miles holding the throttle with one hand, and the other arm wrapped around behind me and my daughter. NOT a fun, nor non-scary ride!!

I haven't looked at any of the Valk armrests - don't fit on my fender rack (  ) but I'm sure someone could come up with something similar.



R