TSA Strikes Again

[X Ring]

How much longer are we going to let these clowns violate our rights and the Constitution performing this dog and pony show saying it's for our protection?  Does someone actually have to die?

http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/05/7268740-pregnant-flier-says-tsa-confiscated-her-insulin?GT1=43001

Marty

[Bob E.]

The security check BS is just another reason I've pretty much sworn off flying...which is a shame because I actually love planes and being in the air even when the weather is bad and the ride gets bumpy.  But it has just gotten to be so much of a hassle. Plus, once you are into the flight process, you are pretty much at the mercy of the airlines.  So for now, I've decided that if I can get there in a day, I'll drive so that I can maintain control of my own situation.  The last time I flew, I left Pittsburgh for Newport News via Philly.  I got so screwed over by delays and flight cancellations that by the time I arrived at my hotel, I could have driven there and been there about 8 hours sooner. I almost got stranded in the Philly airport because they had cancelled my flight to Newport News and it was the last flight of the day.  I ended up having to catch a late flight to Norfolk, make special arrangements with a rental car company to stay open until 1am when I would get there, then drive to my hotel in Newport News.   I had a 8am meeting the next day so I think I was in my hotel room all of about 4 hours.  Even flying home without any delays, I could have been home in about 1 hour less if I had driven.  And it could have been worse.  Since they had cancelled my flight to Newport News, they thought I had not arrived.  So they had automatically cancelled my return flight to Pittsburgh.  Luckily I was still able to get a seat.

[Walküre]

The security check BS is just another reason I've pretty much sworn off flying...

Yup, missing my 40th reunion this October. Would have made a two-day, in and out of it, just ain't worth the hassle! Waited 40 years for it, then screwed out of it...oh well!!

R

[Oss]

last inzane gman and I were flying the wives to detroit then riding on

their flight got cancelled at the last minute and they had to buy full price tix thru wash dc in the morning to detroit  by the time they got to detroit they were beat and we had 7 hrs of riding left

Still if I want to go to the GOTF I will spend 450 plus taxes (at today;s price) and get there same day for the cost of riding there on the bike  I save 4 days motel and meals.

I will wait and see if the price for the tix comes down before springing the money

Have to be in Seattle end of June and no choice we will all have to fly. DOnt have 10 extra days to drive plus 10 nites hotels and meals
Sometimes you really want to go somewhere and there just is no time to do it cept flying.

If I were king there would be a bunch of contraptions like a big cement rooms you walk thru one at a time to get into the airport that if you have a bomb it blows it up and no more TSA

[chuckinVA]

Don't understand this one.  As a transplant patient with diabetes, I travel with more medication than probably anybody, and I've never had any problems getting insulin AND ice packs, frozen or otherwise,  onboard a plane.  Flew to Australia and back last year with absolutely NO problems.  Europe many times, as well as around the US.  I'd say this TSA agent needs some training.   

[The Anvil]

Don't understand this one.  As a transplant patient with diabetes, I travel with more medication than probably anybody, and I've never had any problems getting insulin AND ice packs, frozen or otherwise,  onboard a plane.  Flew to Australia and back last year with absolutely NO problems.  Europe many times, as well as around the US.  I'd say this TSA agent needs some training.   

Yup. I had to intervene when a woman in my line was being hassled about her rescue inhaler. They were trying to take it from her and they can't do that. The agent was overstepping his bounds, I asked for a supervisor and the supervisor took care of it. Many people don't know this but if they are pulling crap that they can't pull you can talk to a supervisor. I know of no airport in America where you can't get ice in the terminal so if she needed to keep her insulin cold she could have done so with minimal inconvenience. Sounds to me like this woman just needed to shut the hell up and deal with it, but then what would she have to complain to the media about?

It's not a government conspiracy to violate your rights or steal your lighter no matter how much some people might want it to be.

[BigAl]

Pregnant, flying, diabetic, wow.

I think she needs to stay home till the baby is born.

[X Ring]

Some women develop diabetes while pregnant.  It's called Gestational Diabetes.  It usually goes away after giving birth but they have a higher probability of developing Type II Diabetes than a woman who doesn't develop Gestational Diabetes while pregnant.

Marty

[musclehead]

I heard this past week the TSA is looking at adopting new guidelines that they will be more watchful of BEHAVIOR  less on the pat downs.

I'm adopting a wait and see attitude. my wife's 40th reunion is next year, I promised we'd go.
we might be going inside this truck, i might be able to get my dispatcher to run me florida to oregon and back (maybe, I never ask for special stuff I might be able to call in a big favor)

[X Ring]

Don't understand this one.  As a transplant patient with diabetes, I travel with more medication than probably anybody, and I've never had any problems getting insulin AND ice packs, frozen or otherwise,  onboard a plane.  Flew to Australia and back last year with absolutely NO problems.  Europe many times, as well as around the US.  I'd say this TSA agent needs some training.   

Yup. I had to intervene when a woman in my line was being hassled about her rescue inhaler. They were trying to take it from her and they can't do that. The agent was overstepping his bounds, I asked for a supervisor and the supervisor took care of it. Many people don't know this but if they are pulling crap that they can't pull you can talk to a supervisor. I know of no airport in America where you can't get ice in the terminal so if she needed to keep her insulin cold she could have done so with minimal inconvenience. Sounds to me like this woman just needed to shut the hell up and deal with it, but then what would she have to complain to the media about?

It's not a government conspiracy to violate your rights or steal your lighter no matter how much some people might want it to be.

You must have missed the part where the agent took a full bottle of insulin.  The ice pack was a minor part of it.

Marty

[lacon]

Best price I've found for insulin around here is $110 at Target.

[The Anvil]

Don't understand this one.  As a transplant patient with diabetes, I travel with more medication than probably anybody, and I've never had any problems getting insulin AND ice packs, frozen or otherwise,  onboard a plane.  Flew to Australia and back last year with absolutely NO problems.  Europe many times, as well as around the US.  I'd say this TSA agent needs some training.  

Yup. I had to intervene when a woman in my line was being hassled about her rescue inhaler. They were trying to take it from her and they can't do that. The agent was overstepping his bounds, I asked for a supervisor and the supervisor took care of it. Many people don't know this but if they are pulling crap that they can't pull you can talk to a supervisor. I know of no airport in America where you can't get ice in the terminal so if she needed to keep her insulin cold she could have done so with minimal inconvenience. Sounds to me like this woman just needed to shut the hell up and deal with it, but then what would she have to complain to the media about?

It's not a government conspiracy to violate your rights or steal your lighter no matter how much some people might want it to be.

You must have missed the part where the agent took a full bottle of insulin.  The ice pack was a minor part of it.

Marty

You must have missed the part where the TSA says they took no insulin from her, only the ice pack.

[lacon]

TSA said the agents did not take it.  She said they did.  Second hand statement vs. first hand statement.  Believe what you like.  A vial is only 1/3 of an oz. BTW.

[DarkMeister]

Last couple of flights I had (here, domestic) security asks if I have a lighter. I do. Hand it over.
They put it in a plastic baggie and hand it back to me.
Too weird.

[X Ring]

TSA said the agents did not take it.  She said they did.  Second hand statement vs. first hand statement.  Believe what you like.  A vial is only 1/3 of an oz. BTW.

For a diabetic, that can be lifesaving.

Marty

[X Ring]

Don't understand this one.  As a transplant patient with diabetes, I travel with more medication than probably anybody, and I've never had any problems getting insulin AND ice packs, frozen or otherwise,  onboard a plane.  Flew to Australia and back last year with absolutely NO problems.  Europe many times, as well as around the US.  I'd say this TSA agent needs some training.   

Yup. I had to intervene when a woman in my line was being hassled about her rescue inhaler. They were trying to take it from her and they can't do that. The agent was overstepping his bounds, I asked for a supervisor and the supervisor took care of it. Many people don't know this but if they are pulling crap that they can't pull you can talk to a supervisor. I know of no airport in America where you can't get ice in the terminal so if she needed to keep her insulin cold she could have done so with minimal inconvenience. Sounds to me like this woman just needed to shut the hell up and deal with it, but then what would she have to complain to the media about?

It's not a government conspiracy to violate your rights or steal your lighter no matter how much some people might want it to be.

You must have missed the part where the agent took a full bottle of insulin.  The ice pack was a minor part of it.

Marty

You mush have missed the part where the TSA says they took no insulin from her, only the ice pack.

No, I didn't miss it but I believe her over some government mouthpiece trying to dance their department out of continual bad press.

Marty

[The Anvil]

Don't understand this one.  As a transplant patient with diabetes, I travel with more medication than probably anybody, and I've never had any problems getting insulin AND ice packs, frozen or otherwise,  onboard a plane.  Flew to Australia and back last year with absolutely NO problems.  Europe many times, as well as around the US.  I'd say this TSA agent needs some training.   

Yup. I had to intervene when a woman in my line was being hassled about her rescue inhaler. They were trying to take it from her and they can't do that. The agent was overstepping his bounds, I asked for a supervisor and the supervisor took care of it. Many people don't know this but if they are pulling crap that they can't pull you can talk to a supervisor. I know of no airport in America where you can't get ice in the terminal so if she needed to keep her insulin cold she could have done so with minimal inconvenience. Sounds to me like this woman just needed to shut the hell up and deal with it, but then what would she have to complain to the media about?

It's not a government conspiracy to violate your rights or steal your lighter no matter how much some people might want it to be.

You must have missed the part where the agent took a full bottle of insulin.  The ice pack was a minor part of it.

Marty

You mush have missed the part where the TSA says they took no insulin from her, only the ice pack.

No, I didn't miss it but I believe her over some government mouthpiece trying to dance their department out of continual bad press.

Marty

I don't. I've been around too many pregnant women to ever take their word. They remember crap that didn't happen, forget crap that DID happen, and to top it off her blood sugar's out of whack.

You really don't see any potential motivation to lie about this? Especially right now when so many people are willing to just accept someone's story and blame the big bad gubmint? For that matter if the TSA wanted to lie about it they could just as easily say that they confiscated it because it wasn't properly marked which would then make it a non-story. Media attention. I smell a LAWSUIT!

I've traveled enough to know that there are things they don't like, bricks of chemicals and gels (often what ice packs are) is one of them. I've never been hassled about regular old liquids as long as they were of the allowed quantity and I've never been hassled for any kind of medication as long as it was properly marked. I HAVE seen quite a few people become indignant over not being allowed to take things on the plane that have been banned for YEARS. In my experience the TSA screeners have been far more professional than the people they're screening. So I have no reason to take this woman's word over that of the TSA.

The incident regarding the rescue inhaler was from a new screener who was concerned over the fact that it's a compressed propellant gas. It's not enough to be a threat, but I can see a new person on the job being overly cautious about it.