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OMAHA, Neb. -- The Nebraska State Patrol said a Bennington, Neb., man is facing a number of charges after driving his motorcycle in excess of 150 mph and leading troopers on a high-speed chase.
Jonathan Goodburn, 20, was taken into custody after a 32 mile pursuit that lasted more than 20 minutes.
The state patrol said Goodburn was clocked going 158 mph in a 55 mph zone near 156th Street and West Dodge Road on Saturday night.
Troopers were conducting a selective enforcement operation due to a number of citizen complaints of unsafe driving by motorcyclists in the area.
Investigators said around 8 p.m., more than 20 motorcycles were seen traveling together along West Dodge Road. They said Goodburn was driving erratically and refused to stop for officers.
Omaha's police helicopter assisted in the pursuit and followed the biker until he stopped along Highway 36 north of Cunningham Lake.
Goodburn is charged with operating a motor vehicle to avoid arrest, willful reckless driving, speeding, improper lane change, driving on the shoulder, a stop sign violation, an improper turn, operating an unregistered motorcycle and for having a fictitious plate.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 09:48:50 PM » |
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Ain't fer sure here but i think that boy in a HEAP of trouble.  He be real lucky they didn't pick him up with a stick and a spoon and a sponge.  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 01:50:04 AM » |
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At that speed, even a big bug could knock him cuckoo.
Hit him between the eyes and he be dead.
I'd say he will probably be without a motor license or a DL for awhile also, if he even had one to start with, motor authorization that is.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 02:34:37 AM » |
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in defense of the biker (and tongue pressed against cheek) those roads are extrememly straight in nebraska, and you can see anything about to cross the road from a mile away!! 
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 03:15:09 AM » |
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 04:56:10 AM » |
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So what if he looses his license, the bike was already illegal. He most likely didn't have a license neither. He will be back behind a 4 wheels before the end of the week. We can only hope he doesn't take out some innocent victim in his next amazing feat.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 05:11:01 AM » |
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So what if he looses his license, the bike was already illegal. He most likely didn't have a license neither. He will be back behind a 4 wheels before the end of the week. We can only hope he doesn't take out some innocent victim in his next amazing feat. My sentiments as well... Hope he looses the right to drive forever... He should be put in jail. Everything about him was illegal and this won't stop him from getting behind the wheel or the handlebars again.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 05:32:31 AM » |
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in defense of the biker (and tongue pressed against cheek) those roads are extrememly straight in nebraska, and you can see anything about to cross the road from a mile away!!  At night? A 20 something on an unregistered crotch rocket. Who'd a thunk it?
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 05:51:24 AM » |
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OMAHA, Neb. -- The Nebraska State Patrol said a Bennington, Neb., man is facing a number of charges after driving his motorcycle in excess of 150 mph and leading troopers on a high-speed chase.
The state patrol said Goodburn was clocked going 158 mph in a 55 mph zone near 156th Street and West Dodge Road on Saturday night.
He mistook the street sign for a speed limit sign! 
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 05:53:59 AM » |
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OMAHA, Neb. -- The Nebraska State Patrol said a Bennington, Neb., man is facing a number of charges after driving his motorcycle in excess of 150 mph and leading troopers on a high-speed chase.
The state patrol said Goodburn was clocked going 158 mph in a 55 mph zone near 156th Street and West Dodge Road on Saturday night.
He mistook the street sign for a speed limit sign!  
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 06:50:43 AM » |
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in defense of the biker (and tongue pressed against cheek) those roads are extrememly straight in nebraska, and you can see anything about to cross the road from a mile away!!  Not around Omaha proper. And it sounds like that is where he was running it from the street locations in the article.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 07:20:31 AM » |
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"selective enforcement operation" I wonder if that's code speak for "profiling motorcylists"? At that speed, even a big bug could knock him cuckoo.
Hit him between the eyes and he be dead. RJ, I think you know that's patently untrue unless you've discovered a bird sized bug.
I'm certainly not saying the rider was correct in his behavior, but you guys, alleged riders yourselves, really should consider turning down the volume on your fantastic assertions and the dogpiling reflex. With as much information as we've been able to glean from a rather brief and one sided news report I'll bet we'd all make tremendous jurors.
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Sam Tilley from Minnesota still has this guy beat.... they dont call him 205 Tilley for nothing. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/205-mph-speed-thrillsMotorcyclist Clocked At 205 MPH Pleads Guilty Dec 23, 2004 9:54 am US/Central Wabasha, Minn. (AP) The Minnesota motorcyclist accused of buzzing down a rural highway at 205 mph must complete nearly an hour of community service for every mile-per-hour authorities say he was going. Sam Tilley, 20, pleaded guilty Wednesday to speeding and driving without a motorcycle license. He was sentenced to a year of probation and 200 hours of community service. Wabasha County Attorney Jim Nordstrom said he dropped a misdemeanor charge of reckless driving. Tilley, who previously pleaded not guilty to the charges, decided against going to trial on charges that carried maximum penalties of 90 days in jail and a $1,000 fine. Without a trial, Tilley and the State Patrol won't be able to make their case about how fast Tilley was actually going. In September, a state trooper flying above U.S. 61 in southeastern Minnesota used a stopwatch and road markings to clock Tilley going 205 mph in a 65-mph zone. But motorcycle enthusiasts -- and Tilley himself -- said they doubted his Honda RC51 could move that fast. Tilley had his bike tested by a mechanic, who said it wouldn't exceed 159 mph. Tilley wasn't talking about the guilty plea Wednesday and has given few interviews since the incident. The State Patrol didn't comment either. Legal observers said while Tilley avoided jail time and fines, the community service requirement is far more than the 15 to 30 hours that even a first-time DUI offender often gets. "If this kid gets past his probation and community service, he could have a future in motorcycle racing," said Joseph Daly, professor of law at Hamline University and a former prosecutor. "He just needs to keep it on the racetrack."
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2011, 09:25:33 AM » |
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Jonathan Goodburn, 20, was taken into custody after a 32 mile pursuit that lasted more than 20 minutes. By my calculations, a 158 mph chase that went on for 20 minutes ought to take you a little over 52 miles. ???
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2011, 09:29:10 AM » |
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Jonathan Goodburn, 20, was taken into custody after a 32 mile pursuit that lasted more than 20 minutes. By my calculations, a 158 mph chase that went on for 20 minutes ought to take you a little over 52 miles. ??? Yeah, like the media ever gets anything straight.
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2011, 09:38:10 AM » |
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Jonathan Goodburn, 20, was taken into custody after a 32 mile pursuit that lasted more than 20 minutes. By my calculations, a 158 mph chase that went on for 20 minutes ought to take you a little over 52 miles. ??? LOL! Speeds are always reported in reached rather than sustained. Next time you get stopped for doing 75 miles per hour, ask the officer if the ticket will be prorated since you were only doing that speed for a quarter hour.
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2011, 10:19:13 AM » |
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 I bet that was a quick 32 miles! 
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2011, 10:40:29 AM » |
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Jonathan Goodburn, 20, was taken into custody after a 32 mile pursuit that lasted more than 20 minutes. By my calculations, a 158 mph chase that went on for 20 minutes ought to take you a little over 52 miles. ??? While I agree with your math, he wasn't accused of doing that speed over the whole course or distance. He was accused of doing that speed over a specific measured distance. Don't ask me how I know.
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2011, 11:00:22 AM » |
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Sounds like a good time to me. 15 mile loop before the cig ya left in the ashtray burns all the way out.
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2011, 11:14:33 AM » |
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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2011, 11:42:06 AM » |
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I admit there's a small, very small, part of me that for an instant wondered how it would be to ride a motorcycle that fast on a straight highway. I'd never do it, but hey, who's not a bit curious?
But my question is what do you do with this guy? As has been posted, everything about his riding and (skills) appears to be illegal from the story so taking away his drivers license seems to be of little consequence. Putting him in jail or prison seems to be like throwing good money out the window in a wind storm. Anyone with that little regard and reckless abandon for the lives of those around him doesn't seem worth the investment in what it costs to incarcerate him.
So what would actually work to control this guys behavior? Same question for repeat drunk drivers I guess.
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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2011, 11:52:47 AM » |
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That is why I stay away from those machines.....If I had the power,I'd use ALL of it ! http://youtu.be/RCHFyPF2J70
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2011, 11:56:37 AM » |
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I admit there's a small, very small, part of me that for an instant wondered how it would be to ride a motorcycle that fast on a straight highway. I'd never do it, but hey, who's not a bit curious?
But my question is what do you do with this guy? As has been posted, everything about his riding and (skills) appears to be illegal from the story so taking away his drivers license seems to be of little consequence. Putting him in jail or prison seems to be like throwing good money out the window in a wind storm. Anyone with that little regard and reckless abandon for the lives of those around him doesn't seem worth the investment in what it costs to incarcerate him.
So what would actually work to control this guys behavior? Same question for repeat drunk drivers I guess.
Mark
I tend to agree. Those that have no respect for the laws aren't going to let the lack of a driver's license stop them. Happens all the time. The only response that comes to mind is bring back chain gangs. At least with chain gangs we get some public service back from the offender. We (as humans) seem to only respect those things/actions that have consequences to our actions and those that reward our actions/decisions. Though we are higher (presumably) up the food chain, we are really not much different that the animals we chose to keep as pets. Behavior viewed as irresponsible, illegal or endangering other's lives and property need to be dealt with in a way that the violator learns from. Those that fail to learn become a victim of Darwin's theory. I'll go put on my flame suit now, I have a feeling it's about to get warm around here. 
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2011, 12:14:15 PM » |
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I agree with you Blackrams. The justice system in both our countries are too lax. Club Fed as they are called. We should bring back punishment and let them earn the right to take classes to better themselves in jail. Meantime, doing some heavy labor will do them some good. But, the panzy socialists that run our justice system won't let that happen.
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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2011, 12:38:47 PM » |
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I agree with you Blackrams. The justice system in both our countries are too lax. Club Fed as they are called. We should bring back punishment and let them earn the right to take classes to better themselves in jail. Meantime, doing some heavy labor will do them some good. But, the panzy socialists that run our justice system won't let that happen.
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I would think (and hope actually) that most of us (including the LEOs among us) exceed the speed limits much of the time. I know I do when I feel it's safe to do so. Why would I own a monster 6 cylinder motorcycle if I never ran it over 55? The main difference is a matter of common sense. When I was young and had my V65 I probably never hit the starter without seeing 100 once or twice and without at least one small wheelie. I never got busted for it because I had the sense to head out of town and populated areas before I had my fun. I seldom see 100 now but I'll probably quit riding before I ride a bike that can't get there if I want to. And, that said, I'd probably quit riding rather than agree to ride at or below the speed limit all the time also. If I'm going to make riding as boring as driving a cage then I'd just as soon drive a cage where I can listen to music and try to find ways to cope with the boredom of it. I'm not saying the guy was right to be riding that speed under those particular conditions. Obviously it wasn't the right place and time or he wouldn't have gotten caught. I am saying I can't even begin to imagine a world where everyone rides their motorcycles without speeding. Sounds like some kind of Fantasy Zombie World created by the insurance industry to me. 
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So much for youth and the need for speed. Of course us older and wiser heads would never do such around town or after dark. 72 here and fastest for me was 180 on my ZX1400. It is equipped with a speedohealer, so think that wasnt far off. It was still pulling hard and I believe it is capable of 200, but I am not planning to explore that. Was on a very straight road with a few miles of vis, and no traffic. Speed can be addictive.
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180 on a zx 12 on route 11 somewhere in ohio, very straight road, 59 and what a rush....soooo its not just kids doing it!
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« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2011, 02:43:18 AM » |
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is this what you mean by right time / right place ? http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/high_speed.htmlA 25-mile commute through Russian traffic and a powerful two-wheeled samurai sword, and you get a video showing the "quick" way to work. Sometimes this two-wheeler even becomes a one-wheeler as rare empty stretches of road disappear when the nose goes skywardthe problem with video's like this is that they don't mention how many more days the rider lived to tell. Anthony
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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2011, 06:30:11 AM » |
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GOOD JUDGEMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE However: EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGEMENT  Yep, I agree. I've been lucky to have survived my youth. Got clocked at 157 mph once by a KS county deputy sheriff, he was a young guy and let me go. Believe it or not! Long story, short version, he told me to keep it below the speed limit the rest of the way home cause every state trooper in the state had a description of my motorcycle. So yeah, we've all done it but, that doesn't mean it's responsible riding. I admittedly ride within about 5 mph of the posted speed limit and do like to get there quickly but, that's doesn't mean squealing tires and doing stupid stunts. I'll let others demonstrate that. I'm too old and have discovered that falling down hurts. I'm allergic to pain.  Yes, with experience, good judgement should follow. I've never receive a speeding ticket I didn't deserve, I might have been upset about getting caught but, I was always speeding. Can't count the number of times I didn't get caught. So, I feel no sympathy for those that push the envelope. Ya makes yer own decision, you pay the price. 
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