OMG! LED Turn Signal Hyper-Flashin' ... WTF!

[Paxton]

Hello, Fellow Dragons and Dragonettes...

I bought hard bags with integrated Led Signal lights. After installation and wiring, the blinkers now hyper-flash.

I plan to add other signal and/or running (LED) Lights. But; I am hesitant to even try addressing the hyper-flashing issue... 

Electricity, Electromechanics and Algebra are three things which I OFTEN Screw up.
Algebra sucked, but I won't go there. 

Please educate me on the issue of LED lighting but, don't confuse me with the facts.
My brain takes a vacation every 12 seconds!:tickedoff:  ???

At the least I'd like to know what replacement LED Turn Signal Flasher Unit must I buy?
Any links or suggestions?
If it gets complicated, I'd better plan to have a shop do it.  ???

I'm striving to keep up at the level of the Talkin' Baby in the commercials... the less gifted one; but failing at that too!

So please, Baby-Talk 2-me.

"People say that I live in my own little world; and that's Ok everybody knows me there."

[Skinhead]

The reason for the hyper flash is due to the difference in the resistance of the LED"s vs incandescent lights.  Adding more incandescent lights to that circuit might fix or improve things, but I'm not an electrical wiz, so I can't say which flasher you need.   

[Bill anderson]

Add at least a 6ohm 10 watt ceramic resistor to the positive side of each led.That should be enough of a load to slow down the flash rate.

[John Schmidt]

Just about any load equalizer will take care of that. However, you may also have to get the diode kit from Kuryakyn and wire it in the turn indicator circuit in the headlight bucket. Has to do with the amber turn signal indicator on your headlight...won't go into a long dissertation on it here as to why except to say both sides feed through the same circuit for the amber indicator light on the headlight. The diode kit splits it up is all. Check your turns with the bike sitting, I'll bet you have more than just a fast flash going on.

 http://www.kuryakyn.com/Products/719/Diode-Kit

[tank_post142]

Go to the auto parts store, purchase an electronic flasher, install (yes it will plug in) and your done. cost between $10-15.00

[X Ring]

Here you go Paxton.  This is the LED flasher I use with my LED turnsignals and the best part is it is plug and play.

http://www.customdynamics.com/trick_flasher.htm#Standard_DOT_Flasher

Marty

[Chiefy]

I thought (??) one advantage to LED's was that the "hyperflashing" didn't happen?

[YoungPUP]

The hyper flash is caused by the lack of amperage draw, It  causes the turn signal system to Fast flash indicating what it  "thinks" is a burned out bulb....while there are no real problems at all.

[RonW]

The way I see it is if you're not running accessories stick with incandescent light bulbs. The way I've heard it is that installing front LEDs is ok. Add LEDs to the rear also, anything and everything wrong can happen. Solution: replace your flasher unit with a electronic flasher .... then it's a tossup between, a yeah it works, and a yeah, right. The Valk's single indicator light has to have a diode splice in. Some bikes have a right turn indicator light and a left turn indicator light on the dashboard with no LED problem.

[Chiefy]

The hyper flash is caused by the lack of amperage draw, It  causes the turn signal system to Fast flash indicating what it  "thinks" is a burned out bulb....while there are no real problems at all.

I read the OP as to mean he added LED's to the existing incandescents.  If so, there would be more current draw.  Albeit only slight.

[R J]

I take it all you have on the rear are LED's for turn signals.

On my Trike I just added another regular light and hid it in the saddlebag.  Make that big storage box.

Problem solved.

You can spend a lot of $$$$$ on other parts to also solve the problem, but this old Firker grew up in the depression, so I try to keep my cash in my pocket,    In other words, I'm  cheap old bastard.   I go the cheapest way possible.    

Besides I had these old turn signals left over from another bike from many years ago.   I knew I had kept them for a reason.

[Farther]

Will the hyper-flashing cause any problems?  If not, why not leave them as they are probably more noticable.

[RonW]

Will the hyper-flashing cause any problems?  If not, why not leave them as they are probably more noticable.

That's mainly why I left the hyper-flashing as is on my other bike. Incadescent bulbs but when I testing the the turn signals I left an unrelated p-connector disconnected and it somehow musta blew the resistor in the run-brake rear light converter module.

[Valkpilot]

Here you go Paxton.  This is the LED flasher I use with my LED turnsignals and the best part is it is plug and play.

http://www.customdynamics.com/trick_flasher.htm#Standard_DOT_Flasher

Marty

+1

This solves the fast flashing problem without load equalizers, which create the same resistance, and therefore heat, as an incandescent bulb so that care has to be take where you mount them.

If you've got LEDs front and back you might still have bleedover from one side to the other, i.e., both sides flash when you've got only one of the turn signals on.  This occurs through the signal indicator lbulb in the headlight shell.  The solution is to either add diodes to each of the two lines connected to the indicator light, connect both of them to the same side of the indicator bulb and connect the other side to ground, or take the bulb out completely.

[The Anvil]

Will the hyper-flashing cause any problems?  If not, why not leave them as they are probably more noticable.

I agree 100% I've found that when I see it on another car or bike it's an attention getter.