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« on: August 24, 2011, 04:15:43 AM » |
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This morning i was in the cage going to work i take back roads on this one road a 2 lane all curves one car in front of me we are going 45/50 2 diesel pickups pass us in a double yellow in the other lane while going around a bilnd curve and continue further on down doing the same in the curves.Now i'm no angel but this was just wrong any of us could have been in that lane and looking at their headlights just before hitting head on!!!!! I have their plate numbers my question is do i blow them in to State police which covers our area or not fun is fun but that was dangerous for all?
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2011, 04:21:20 AM » |
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Turn 'em in. Just luck that no-one was in the oncoming lane. Someone on a bike for instance wouldn't have stood a chance. This is the type of situation where "I didn't see the bike" would be used. I've broken traffic laws before, but I wouldn't put someone else's safety on the line.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2011, 04:51:22 AM » |
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I don't know how it works there, but here in VA nothing would come of you turning anything in to the police. Just last week, I called them about a seriously intoxicated driver (assumed on my part) that I was following down the road. I explained in detail this driver's erratic behavior which included extended periods of time driving in the oncomming traffic lane. All they did was ask me if, "I wanted to press charges." I told them that he hadn't done anything to me, I was just trying to get him stopped before he killed someone.  They never even said that they'd try to catch him. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2011, 05:22:26 AM » |
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I have on more than one occasion called in a suspected DUI and the police asked me to safrly follow until they could get a car there. They did. Ikkegal passing has to be seen or it's hearsay. Call it in, if they have been turned in brfore, something will happen. This is in Illinois.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2011, 05:35:12 AM » |
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The above is an example of spelling before coffee. da prez 
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2011, 06:01:45 AM » |
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Unfortunately nothing could be done by the police if you called it in. The only way it could be prosecuted would be if you could identify the driver(s) and and testify in court. It would still be very hard to get a conviction since it would come down to your word against theirs. And I could even see the possibility of the drivers suing you for malicious prosecution or some such foolishness.
If you had been able to get the police on the phone and be able to keep the vehicles in sight the police would still have to actually see another violation to be able to take any action.
Now, if you had video... or any "proof", or if 15 people all witnessed such an event and would all testify....
So, it's not gonna work.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2011, 06:06:23 AM » |
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Years ago (in NJ) I had a VW pass me on the double yellow and then crash into a building after returning to the right side of the road. As I told the officer what I had witnessed, he ticketed the driver of the VW and told me I would have to appear in court to testify if he fought it.......never went to court, but I suppose you could be required to testify to what you saw.....
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2011, 06:08:47 AM » |
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Turn their sorry @$$e$ in.  I have fractured my share of traffic laws over the years.  Yesterday i was out on my M/C.  Was on a nice section of moderate twistys i hadn't been on before. Ran up on some slower traffic in a no passing zone.  I COULD have made the pass o-k with the space available in the no passing zone.  I chose not to and waited for a proper passing zone to complete the pass.  There are certain laws i will not break.  Those single and double yellow lines are ther for a reason.  Turn them in. I just hope the cops take you seriously.  Turn em in-you'll feel better when you do.  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2011, 08:30:06 AM » |
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No.
Don't turn them in.
As one poster put it above" I have Broken Many trafic laws but would never put other lives at risk"
Every time you break a traffic law you are putting lives at risk.
Except for the Grace of God Go I.
And you will not feel better when you turn them in.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2011, 09:51:48 AM » |
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I talked to my neighbor this morning who is a trooper and he ran the plate he is going to stop over the boys home on his way home and have a talk with him it is the boys fathers truck hopefully that will be enough.my neighbor has also seen him blow the stop sign at the bottom of my road several times while off duty.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2011, 10:20:24 AM » |
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I talked to my neighbor this morning who is a trooper and he ran the plate he is going to stop over the boys home on his way home and have a talk with him it is the boys fathers truck hopefully that will be enough.my neighbor has also seen him blow the stop sign at the bottom of my road several times while off duty. Hopefully the father isn't a "Dick" and will take corrective action on his kid instead of getting an atitude with your trooper neighbor.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2011, 10:36:39 AM » |
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I know GiG & I did not pass a semi on 385 and a soccor mom in a mini van on Iron Mountain Rd in the curves and a double yellow line. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2011, 10:47:50 AM » |
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In Ireland they really crack down on such driving,
A single line means "No passing at all" Double line means "No passing, at all-at all".
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2011, 12:34:21 PM » |
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No. Don't turn them in. As one poster put it above" I have Broken Many trafic laws but would never put other lives at risk" Every time you break a traffic law you are putting lives at risk. Except for the Grace of God Go I. And you will not feel better when you turn them in.
I must disagree on all points. Am I putting lives at risk when I drive 61 in a 60 zone with clear lines of sight and no traffic around? No. I could come up dozens of circumstances where breaking a traffic law would not change risk, and a few where breaking a traffic law reduces my personal risk. Calling the police to report dangerous driving is to be applauded, if the call can be made safely (like when you have pulled over or if the caller is a passenger). The worst case is that nothing is done and the driver continues to drive as before. There are many ways your call could make a difference: The car has been reported stolen and now they have a location/direction for it. The owner has an arrest warrant. The car is in a subsequent collision and you can be a witness for the victim. Your testimony might tip the scales. The car is pulled over and the driver is found to be impaired or driving on a suspended licence. The police follow at a distance, observe other infractions, and prosecute. The driver is local and now the driver is more closely watched by the police. The driver is pulled over, warned, and takes it easy for the next 10 minutes, thus preventing a collision. The way I see it, it's like calling the police about a suspicious person skulking around the neighbourhood at night. If suspicious characters know there will be cruisers in the area whenever they're seen, they will choose to go somewhere else where they won't be hassled. And occasionally someone is caught with a bag of loot over their shoulder.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2011, 02:33:40 PM » |
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My neighbor the Trooper called his house in an official capacity and spoke to his mother and said she was very pissed off about her sons driving and will speak to him tonight when dad is home from work.She also said he not much for getting up in the morning and is always running late This is not the first time this boy has done this there have been other mornings he has passed me and other cars in poor locations.He is 22 and hopefully this will give him a wake up call 'maybe ' also when my neighbor gets off on his way home he will pay a call to the house to have a talk with him and dad.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2011, 03:42:51 PM » |
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No. Don't turn them in. As one poster put it above" I have Broken Many trafic laws but would never put other lives at risk" Every time you break a traffic law you are putting lives at risk. Except for the Grace of God Go I. And you will not feel better when you turn them in.
I must disagree on all points. Am I putting lives at risk when I drive 61 in a 60 zone with clear lines of sight and no traffic around? No. I could come up dozens of circumstances where breaking a traffic law would not change risk, and a few where breaking a traffic law reduces my personal risk. Calling the police to report dangerous driving is to be applauded, if the call can be made safely (like when you have pulled over or if the caller is a passenger). The worst case is that nothing is done and the driver continues to drive as before. There are many ways your call could make a difference: The car has been reported stolen and now they have a location/direction for it. The owner has an arrest warrant. The car is in a subsequent collision and you can be a witness for the victim. Your testimony might tip the scales. The car is pulled over and the driver is found to be impaired or driving on a suspended licence. The police follow at a distance, observe other infractions, and prosecute. The driver is local and now the driver is more closely watched by the police. The driver is pulled over, warned, and takes it easy for the next 10 minutes, thus preventing a collision. The way I see it, it's like calling the police about a suspicious person skulking around the neighbourhood at night. If suspicious characters know there will be cruisers in the area whenever they're seen, they will choose to go somewhere else where they won't be hassled. And occasionally someone is caught with a bag of loot over their shoulder. Pretty much the train of thought I had going when I made the comment Big Al is referring to, but I didn't think I'd have to qualify my statement. As far as the grace of god goes, common intelligence stops most from doing something that stupid, and those it doesn't stop could use some interventional help, possibly preventing an accident or worse. Good post Gryphon Rider!
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2011, 04:57:35 AM » |
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Handling things like this, at the lowest level is usually the best way to get it done. Sometimes it's nice to know someone...
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2011, 09:51:00 AM » |
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Many years ago I was coming back home after dropping a friend off in a rural area east of New Haven. Had another friend with me at the time. We caught up with a car that was weaving from lane to lane on a two lane hwy. It was 2am so very few cars were on the road. This was before cel phones were prevelent so I had no way to contact the police. So I fallowed him for a few miles until he finaly drove off the left side of the road and into a ditch. We stopped. The car behind me stopped too. Driver told me he had been trying to get someone on channel 9 on his CB since he got behind this guy. That driver left to go up the road and call the cops. The Drunk got out of his car and staggered to the road. He told me "that Indiana has not been good to him". When a county sheriff got there I told him what I had seen. He gave the guy the test witch he failed badly. The cop told me this guy had been caught many times for DUI. Cop asked me if I would testify if it went to court. Said oh yea. He must have pled guilty because I never got a call........
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2011, 10:48:03 AM » |
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A couple of days ago, I was returning home from visiting a sick friend. I was just cruising on the Valk, maybe 5 miles under the speed limit. Some jackass ran up on my bumper and started tailgating. When I ignored him he got impatient and passed me around a blind curve with a double yellow line. A car was coming from the other direction, forcing this idiot to pinch me of so he could get back in his lane.
Two curves later we both were caught at the same red light. He didn't even look my direction although we were sitting side by side. I got his attention, he turned his radio down, and I told him just what I thought of his driving habits. He replied that if I was a cop I should give him a ticket otherwise get over it. My adrenilin started to rise, and he said if I came over there he had a pistol. I told him I'd love to take a picture of that pistol hanging out of his rectum.
The light changed, he went right (squealing the tires) and I went left. I guess I kinda goosed it for a second to cool off. Less than a quarter mile away I went through a speed trap and was awarded a 64 in a 45 speeding ticket. At least I was on a straight four lane with nobody ahead of me.
The trooper asked me the same question that I had just asked the dude less than a minute ago: "Why are you in such a hurry?" I started to tell the story, and then said never mind, just give me my ticket. As he was filling out the form, he said, " I didn't see it happen and you don't even know his license plate number to check it out."
Oh well, I got mine, hope some day he'll get his.
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2011, 01:19:59 PM » |
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I don't know how it works there, but here in VA nothing would come of you turning anything in to the police. Just last week, I called them about a seriously intoxicated driver (assumed on my part) that I was following down the road. I explained in detail this driver's erratic behavior which included extended periods of time driving in the oncomming traffic lane. All they did was ask me if, "I wanted to press charges." I told them that he hadn't done anything to me, I was just trying to get him stopped before he killed someone.  They never even said that they'd try to catch him.  I have done that 3 times on 95 In Virginia. Not once have they bothered to do anything about the DUI. Just states they will look out for them.....
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2011, 05:05:25 PM » |
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Robin you only have goodness in your heart for turning the boy in.
Now that I know it is a young man.
The parents will probably have some sway on the kid.
But if it had been a man with bad driving habits ingrained in him, not sure what it would accomplish.
Driving is a privalage and not a right.
So the one that won't listen will be taught a lesson by losing the privalage to drive.
Still breaking traffic laws are bad no matter who you are, even though some people can rationalise anything.
They are there for a reason.
Go without a helmet,
ride with no insurance,
no license
a illegal alian that has past warrants and drags a guy to death and the panty waist governor turns him out to kill again.
Like Massachusetts does, well actually he beat a policeman up first and then drug the recent college graduate to death.
But he won't turn him into ICE.
Are just a few of the small laws that can put us all at risk.
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2011, 02:51:38 PM » |
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Calif has highway signs all over the place to report drunk drivers - call 911. Just need to provide location, description of vehicle and if possible the plate number, or at least the last three numbers. If there is a unit in the area they'll search them out and nab them. Same drill for reckless drivers...i.e., passing over double yellow, etc. Dispatch will ask for your name and number to get back to you if they need to, to confidentially verify the culprit. Yrmv,
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