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big sky
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« on: August 25, 2011, 12:56:51 PM »

I am wanting some more rumble out of my bike.  What seems to be the most bang for the buck.  I am liking the mild to wild from horse apple, right now but have not seen many reviews yet.
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Sky
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 02:10:46 PM »

I am wanting some more rumble out of my bike.  What seems to be the most bang for the buck.  I am liking the mild to wild from horse apple, right now but have not seen many reviews yet.
Thanks
Sky

You'll be disappointed after spending some big bucks.

Get an extra set of stockers and modify them, save money and disappointment.

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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 03:22:41 PM »

SAve your money..

Cut the piggies

Drill the first baffle... regular drill bit will work...

Truck stacks..... 18" inch ones to replace regular tips....$48 each.....

If you dont like it... drill a little more....

Still dont like it..... spend the money.... But I think you'll like it...

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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 03:28:10 PM »

Buy a good CD player and some big speakers.  Go to a local biker bar and record the HDs.  When you feel the need, play the recording really loud. This will save you from ruining a perfectly good motorcycle.  An added advantage- it will cost you way less than fixing what you screwed up.
See the thread about the best exhaust for the Valk. 
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The Anvil
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2011, 03:31:30 PM »

Yeah you can keep your awful sounding, heavy stockers or have someone who knows what they're doing make it sound nice and make good power. The choice is yours.
Although the stockers do sound nice when modded.

But why on earth would you want it to sound like a Harley? That's just dumb. The flat six with a good set of pipes sounds so much better.
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2011, 04:05:26 PM »

Anvil,
      I did not know you were so close.  We should meet sometime and discuss this.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2011, 04:18:43 PM »

Anvil,
      I did not know you were so close.  We should meet sometime and discuss this.

We aren't that close. I do go out to the Berkshires once in a while though.
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But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
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In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.

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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2011, 04:18:50 PM »

I am wanting some more rumble out of my bike.  What seems to be the most bang for the buck.  I am liking the mild to wild from horse apple, right now but have not seen many reviews yet.
Thanks
Sky


Here's a list of pipe options for the Valk.  Not sure if all are still in business.........

http://www.valkyrienorway.com/Exhaust.html

Probably the most bang for the buck is a set of Cobras.  New, you can find them less than $700.  However, and IMHO, the Cadillac of pipes is a set of MarkT's.  He offers plenty of options on a set of pipes too.  

ChrisJ over in Crestview has Cobras on his Standard.  Contact him, he'll probably be more than happy to let you listen to them.  

I modded my stockers.  First, cut the piggies....then progressively, drilled the rear baffles.  Finally went whole-hog and did the Ragnar cut.  

This is my Valk with the piggies cut and the rear baffles drilled......

Honda Valkyrie - LED turn and tag light modificationspowered by Aeva


This is after the Ragnar cut (front baffles untouched).....

Honda Valkyrie - after Ragnar Cutpowered by Aeva


If you don't know what the Ragnar cut is, it's basically gutting the rear end portion of the pipes totally removing the rear baffles.  Here's the links.....

http://luiscajiga.com/Exhaustm.htm

and.....

http://luiscajiga.com/Exhaustm2.htm

If you don't like the look of the seam with the factory short tips, you can do the truck stack mod....

http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/truckstackinstall.htm

You can find them here.....

http://store.airflo.com/chrome-exhaust.html

A VERY nice addition of the pipe ends are Grumpy's tips.  He's a site supporter.....

http://www.grumpyscustomparts.com/apps/webstore/

However, if you're inclined to mod your stockers, I feel I should warn you first about modding stock pipes. When you cut the piggies, you WILL get drone.  If you ride without a helmet, or with a half helmet, you probably won't notice it.  However, if you ride with anything else such as a 3/4 or full helmet, you'll experience drone.  Depending on the person, it can be mild or absolutely horrible.  

The choice is up to you.  

Good luck.   cooldude

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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2011, 05:30:22 PM »

I have Dragon Packs and Stacks on my I/S.  cooldude
I'd sell my OEM I/S exhaust system for $1500.00 if your interested.
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2011, 10:36:53 PM »

Anvil,
      I did not know you were so close.  We should meet sometime and discuss this.

We aren't that close. I do go out to the Berkshires once in a while though.

Now that is close to me.  We should ride some day.

/steve
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2011, 10:39:48 PM »

I run MarkT, think he's the only live exhaust place left producing a crossover for the valk.  They are worth the money.   Decent sound you can tune and even silence, good increase in HP, a bark when you get on it.  The cobra's may sound nicer, but I had them and I am now using MarkT.  I won't be going back.  Get the crossover.
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2011, 06:37:47 AM »

I am wanting some more rumble out of my bike.  What seems to be the most bang for the buck.  I am liking the mild to wild from horse apple, right now but have not seen many reviews yet.
Thanks
Sky

You'll be disappointed after spending some big bucks.

Get an extra set of stockers and modify them, save money and disappointment.

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Based on WHAT?  There is no one in my records from SC named Ricky or anything similar.  I know of no one who is disappointed with my pipes - other than a couple of statistical "flyers" who could not be satisfied no matter what I did - after building over a THOUSAND systems in 12 years.  I have made it a priority to be sure that any questions or issues are resolved before business is declared complete.

"RickyD" - What do you do for a living?  How about this:  How about I get veto power on your paycheck. Or I get to decide if you lose your job.  How would you like that? Do you like to pay your bills?  Or feed your children?  You believe a craftsman should not be paid for his work?

Thanks to the other, REASONABLE people who recognize quality when they see it.  No thanks to this yahoo who posts negative opinions rooted in ignorance.
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2011, 06:43:54 AM »

Anvil,
      I did not know you were so close.  We should meet sometime and discuss this.

We aren't that close. I do go out to the Berkshires once in a while though.

Now that is close to me.  We should ride some day.

/steve

Next weekend I'm hoping to be able to get a couple other Valk riders to head out to southern Vermont and then head north on Rt. 100 if you're interested.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.

1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
Russell Rice
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2011, 07:12:12 AM »

I did the glass pack mod and I really enjoy the way the bike sounds. I think I have maybe $200 bucks in the whole project. I am lucky though, I have 1 set of interstate pipes & 1 set of standard pipes, both unmolested just in case I feel the need for some real quiet riding. It took me a few years to find the sound that I wanted, it will not be a overnight thing. All pipes have there +/- it just all depends on what YOU are looking for. I have worked on quite a few diffrent Valkyries and Mark T's pipes seem to be the ones that I see the most. I have taken them off and reinstalled then many times. The quality is there, the sound is there and the looks are there. I have no idea about any numbers, i.e hp +/-. The guys that do the glass pack mods with the truck stack sound and look great also. All of the brands that make the 6x6 pipes sound good too but the looks are lacking because of the bluing. I have cut and drilled baffles on several set of pipes but I just never found the sound that I was looking for. Cutting and drilling is one way to get a little bit better sound but not the sound that I was looking for. Pipes are a very personal thing. What works for one guy my not work for you, so happy hunting and by the time you find what you like I bet you will end up with several sets of pipes.....lol by the way I have never met Mark T or for that matter I have never even talked to him this is just my humble opinion cooldude
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2011, 10:29:12 PM »

Anvil,
      I did not know you were so close.  We should meet sometime and discuss this.

We aren't that close. I do go out to the Berkshires once in a while though.

Now that is close to me.  We should ride some day.

/steve

Next weekend I'm hoping to be able to get a couple other Valk riders to head out to southern Vermont and then head north on Rt. 100 if you're interested.

Yeah, I could run up 91 and meet you up there, depending upon the day and how much damage I must clean up after this storm (there are still holes in my house from the tornado....fighting the insurance company).
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2011, 10:46:31 PM »

I happen to live in a high rise building just before a stoplight on a one-way street below, and my past time is listening to motorbikes riding by at street level, or at least, the sound that their pipes make. There is the sound that your pipes make riding along. That it makes decelerating to a stop. That it makes sitting and idling at the stoplight. That it makes accelerating from a stop. Very rarely have I heard the perfect set of pipes hit all the octaves in all of the situations. Although when it does happen, it's music to the ears. Indeed.
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2011, 05:30:51 AM »

Love my MarkT's!  They look great, and sound better.

I can put the silencers in, go on a long ride, and be almost as quiet as OEM.  Pull them out, and be a little louder.

Today, I am going to a rally and ride with 98% HD's, and I have the trombones installed.  Have you heard the MarkT's with the "bones" in them???

RickyD, will you PLEASE explain to me how you can do all that with the OEM pipes drilled??

And, LOOK better besides?

Thank you Horseapple!

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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2011, 09:36:16 AM »

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"RickyD, will you PLEASE explain to me how you can do all that with the OEM pipes drilled??"

Well, first of all I was not trying to single out some paranoiac ranting pipe bender in decrying the obscenely overpriced aftermarket exhaust systems that are, and used to be, available for the Valkyrie.

I have modified my extra set of stockers and am completely satisfied with the results achieved.

With my limited experience hearing all the different exhaust systems for the Valkyrie, it is my opinion that there isn't that much difference in tone but rather the difference is loudness.

Now if you think one loud is better than another loud and are willing to pay a thousand or more to achieve that, well I say go ahead, but to the uninitiated I caution that there will be disappointment if expecting something different, and more that just loud.

I think all the six into six arrangements are a bunch of crap and all of them will end up blue since they can't even come close to the manufacture of the stockers. To boot, they sound shrill and cheap!

I like the exhaust that use the stockers for the base and add the truck stack looking arrangement but that's not for me either.

Why someone feels so insecure as to take a general statement as a personal attack is beyond me but I am very used to that actually and I don't really let it bother me much since this is a forum and there are always going to be personal attacks from people that have difficulty understanding what is being written even though those (personal attacks) are forbidden on this forum.

Finally (thank god) I want to mention there is a fellow here in SC that has made some very good exhaust systems for the Valkyrie that I have heard run and have seen the dyno results which I myself have to admit are pretty impressive. They have a very good tone are moderately loud when "getting on it" he will not say exactly what they are but they look like a pipe inside a pipe. A little strange.

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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2011, 10:21:20 AM »

Hey guys, can't we all just get along..... sorry I had to say it  Grin.  I researched exhaust for my valkyrie for quite a while and was dead set on getting a set of the vikings. I paid 50 bucks and got myself on the waiting list. Well after more than a year of waiting, I didn't want to wait anymore and had MarkT do up my stockers. I could not be happier. Having 3 distinct levels of sound is super cool. I have barely had the bones out (straight pipes) at all because it sounds so sweet. My only only regret is that I didn't get my pipes to MarkT sooner......meanwhile my request for the $50 deposit back went unanswered.....like the website says non-refundable deposit. Nice racket. Hope this doesn't  sound like a paid adverstisement, I assure you it's not. Just an honest opinion.

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