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PhredValk
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« on: September 25, 2011, 04:28:24 PM »

I pulled up to McDonalds and saw my left signal was still blinking (in the refection off the window), so I cancelled it. The right running light went out, the left stayed on. I signalled right, it blinked and the left stayed on. When I cancelled, the left running light went out but the right stayed on. Rear signals work as normal.

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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 04:37:30 PM »

Were going to need more info, year, model, desmogged, timing advance, what oil?  crazy2

That's crazy! Front only, huh. Sounds like you have a short in the stem.
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2011, 05:33:03 PM »

or loose wire to a ground, or high resistance connection.  Check all the green grounds and connections in the headlight and right side cover.  Turn signals are orange and blue under the side cover.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2011, 05:42:21 PM »

bad bulb ..
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2011, 05:51:18 PM »

Goofy elect. usually a bad ground. Check the ground connections, even the cable at the battery.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2011, 05:55:54 PM »

bad bulb ..

That was my first thought too
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2011, 07:07:08 PM »

99 IS. I think I'd rather keep it than dig around in the faring. I'll check wiring and bulbs next weekend. Was just hoping you folks had run into this before.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2011, 07:57:37 PM »

Gremlins?
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2011, 08:15:39 PM »

After studying the wiring schematics for the bike, I might know what is wrong. The turn signal switch is actually two switches. When you signal left, one section of the switch sends the signal from the flasher unit to one winding in the left turn signal/running light bulb. The second  portion of the switch removes 12 volts from the running light portion of the left bulb. When you cancel the left turn signal, the first section of the switch removes the signal from the flasher and the second section restores 12 volts to the running light portion of the left bulb. If the second part of the switch goes too far, it will remove the 12 volts from the right bulb and the running light goes out. Sounds like the second portion of the turn signal switch is not working properly. The contacts might need to be cleaned.  After canceling the left turn signal, try moving the turn signal switch back a little to the left and see if the right side running light comes back on.

Valkyrie Wiring Schematics are at: http://www.rattlebars.com/valkfaq/schematics/index.html

Sheet with the turn signal switch is sheet 2 (S2) for both the  Standard/Tourer and the Interstate.

It's worth a shot.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2011, 07:24:11 AM »

yep, indybobm has the answer.

Do some switch maintenance.

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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2011, 08:11:52 AM »

Same symptoms for my I/S last season,, and switch cleaning cured the problem.
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PhredValk
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2011, 08:26:55 AM »

Thanks for the help. I'll get to it this weekend and let you know how it turns out.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2011, 10:00:31 AM »

Switch is where I'd look too, but now for the root cause analysis:

It's obvious the bike's not ridden enough to keep the contacts clean. You should sell it. I know a guy looking for one.  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2011, 07:38:55 PM »

I spray radio shack "tuner cleaner/lubricator"? (not sure if that's the exact name) into the switches with the included straw whenever they feel a little notchy or rough. Has been working for me for years. It won't replace starter button maintenance but it's all I've needed to do with my turn signal switch.
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2011, 08:49:03 PM »

You didn't mention how you where cancelling the signal. Do you turn it off, or push the switch in?

My my ACE Tourer, the switch would not cancel one side by pushing, and I always needed to turn it off.

I opened it up, and sprayed silicon lubrication on it, and it hasn't come back as a problem.

But it does sound more like the above suggestion of a faulty switch.
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PhredValk
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2011, 09:20:35 PM »

Jus push in to cancel. If I push it in the oposite direction a bit, the running light comes back on, so a good cleaning should be enough.

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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2011, 05:54:13 AM »

After studying the wiring schematics for the bike, I might know what is wrong. The turn signal switch is actually two switches. When you signal left, one section of the switch sends the signal from the flasher unit to one winding in the left turn signal/running light bulb. The second  portion of the switch removes 12 volts from the running light portion of the left bulb. When you cancel the left turn signal, the first section of the switch removes the signal from the flasher and the second section restores 12 volts to the running light portion of the left bulb. If the second part of the switch goes too far, it will remove the 12 volts from the right bulb and the running light goes out. Sounds like the second portion of the turn signal switch is not working properly. The contacts might need to be cleaned.  After canceling the left turn signal, try moving the turn signal switch back a little to the left and see if the right side running light comes back on.

Valkyrie Wiring Schematics are at: http://www.rattlebars.com/valkfaq/schematics/index.html

Sheet with the turn signal switch is sheet 2 (S2) for both the  Standard/Tourer and the Interstate.



I sure wish I could look at a wiring diagram and figure something like that out. I have enough trouble just trying to see what color wire does what...

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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2011, 12:44:06 PM »

Hey, If I don't have a blinker on and push the switch straight in, both lights go out until I let the switch out.  I kind of like it like that.  I signal my buddy that I'm ready to go.
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