Kickstand lean any fixes?

[dallastar]

Kickstand lean   i didnt see anything in shop talk nor can a find any old post ...
is this an unsolved mystery?

is there a solution or tip trick to get the bike NOT to lean so damn far over
has anyone heated and bent the kickstand or maybe welded something on or maybe JB weld a piece of something or  ???

NO I dont want to carry a block of wood with me ...besides im sure i would ride off and leave it behind and NO i dont want to chain it my bike

[John U.]

You can shim the mounting bracket to change the lean angle. You may also find a kickstand pad made by Rivco.
They are not in regular production anymore but they did a limited run recently. Mike at Valkyrie Bling may still have some.
http://valkyrieblingandmore.com/new-bling.html

If you decide to shim, go easy, you don't want to stand the bike up too straight. A big wind, an air leak or unlevel ground could ruin your day.

[Chiefy]

Kickstand lean   i didnt see anything in shop talk nor can a find any old post ...
is this an unsolved mystery?

is there a solution or tip trick to get the bike NOT to lean so damn far over
has anyone heated and bent the kickstand or maybe welded something on or maybe JB weld a piece of something or  ???

NO I dont want to carry a block of wood with me ...besides im sure i would ride off and leave it behind and NO i dont want to chain it my bike

Buddy of mine cut a block of wood the same shape as the foot, spray painted it silver and mounted it to the foot.  Cheap, easy, and you only noticed it if you were looking close.

[dallastar]

i think someone should design   a dragon claw  to bolt on kickstand   

[John U.]

Before Rivco did their recent run of pads I had planned to shape a piece of 3/8" flat aluminum stock and bolt it to the foot of the side stand. I even bought a spare stand from Pinwall in case I screwed it up.

[NW roller]

Signed up when mike was taking orders it made a big diffrence.

[Steve K (IA)]

Several years ago, they talked about putting washers between the kickstand bracket and the frame.  When thinking about this a while back, I am sure you would use the same amount of washers on both sides shimming the whole bracket downwards so there wouldn't be anymore stress on that cross-member than needed.  My I/S leans so far that sometimes I can hardly get it upright.  In the garage it has always had a piece of 2x4 under the kickstand. 
Someone has said that a kickstand pad from Rivco for the VTX 1800 will fit the Valk, and they are still available for $38.  You might have to grind a little material off the sides of the foot of the stand to get the pad slipped on.

[The Anvil]

It's funny but Eddies 99 Valk doesn't lean over nearly as far as mine and I have an adapter bolted between the stand and frame. I never looked closely at Rich's bike but I suspect that Eddie's either has the washers installed or it was bent. I'll have to take a closer look.

The PO was apparently a midget (or a woman) because they definitely bent the deployment kicker on the stand to make it easier to reach (though that's not the only clue that the PO was vertically challenged). It grinds in even the shallowest of corners. In fact, that's on the agenda to be fixed ASAP.

[tank_post142]

big problem is the outside bolt on the mount is so short you can barely add a small spacer. im dropping in a new clutch this weekend, i will be putting in a longer bolt at that time

[fudgie]

I had to have Kit push me up once cause I couldnt get it off the kick stand. But there were other factors on board to hinder me.    Make sure if you do park with extension the bike dont fall over. I try and park on the high side if possible. If not I just lean with my weight as I grab the bars.

[quexpress]

i think someone should design   a dragon claw  to bolt on kickstand   

In 2005, I had the Rivco pad ... then we did this to my Tourer:

Re: Adrian: Chroming the OEM Side Stand

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/forum/tech_archive.cgi?read=689877







Then my buddy who fabricated my side stand decided to make himself a side stand shaped Like an eagle claw.

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

My bike leans pretty far but it is because I have taller rear shocks than OEM. I put 2 thin washers between the left bolt on the stand and the frame to help  with the lean.

[dallastar]

my complaint isnt that i cant lift my bike lol  trust me i hav no issues there ....my complaint is i think it looks like crap leaning that far offer ....

I think you guys need to start working out.

Or find a time machine/fountain of youth.  

[Tropic traveler]

Anvil you are not seeing things. My '97 leans over noticably more than the other two Valks.
I did the Rivco VTX 1800 thing to the '97 & it helps a lot with the lean. Just had to shave a little off each side of the Valk kickstand foot & the VTX pad fits perfectly.
It must be a '97 thing.  ???


 

[Earl in Pensacola]

I went to a welding shop, we found a piece of steel (?) about an inch thick, welded it onto the foot. trimned it to the same size, painted silver and it's been there for at least the last 10 years.  Works great--no problems either. Cheap!  As I recall about $5.00.

[dallastar]

now thats my kinda fix

I went to a welding shop, we found a piece of steel (?) about an inch thick, welded it onto the foot. trimned it to the same size, painted silver and it's been there for at least the last 10 years.  Works great--no problems either. Cheap!  As I recall about $5.00.

[R J]

You people that have a problem getting the bike into an upright position, here is a quick fix for ya.

When ya park, turn the handlebars to the right as far as they will go.

When ya get ready to stand the Phat Lady up, grab the bars, still turned to the right, and snatch her up.     Don't know why it works, but it does.

[Mr. Nuts]

Mine leans more than normal as the previous owner bent the center brace underneath while unloading it from a trailer. It gave me fits when I started riding it and I had to be VERY careful where I parked because uneven pavement could make it even worse. Once on my first day I stopped off the side of the road in the dirt to visit with a friend who was flyfishing. I had the road on one side and a severe drop off into the river on the other. The dirt was angled the wrong way and I had to get my friends help to get the bike off the stand. I was sure embarrassed. But eventually I learned little tricks like always making sure I grabbed a handful of brake, having the wheel turned in, and making the effort in one smooth motion. My left leg probably got a lot stronger too. One day I let a Harley rider sit on it and I was secretly thrilled when he couldn't get it up! He eventually made it but it was a hell of a battle, turned his face colors, and probably gave him a hernia. It was almost as much fun when he gave it back to me and I easily stood it up like it was a honda 90. After that I decided I am never fixing the lean. It's just too much fun the way it is!

[dallastar]

Ride off stands , anyone remember them?   used to put them on all the bikes   havent seen one in yrs now ....

[The Anvil]

Anvil you are not seeing things. My '97 leans over noticably more than the other two Valks.
I did the Rivco VTX 1800 thing to the '97 & it helps a lot with the lean. Just had to shave a little off each side of the Valk kickstand foot & the VTX pad fits perfectly.
It must be a '97 thing.  ???

Good to know. I'll have to get under both bikes and ascertain the difference between the two. Right now getting it up isn't a problem but I'm relatively young and strong but empirical evidence leads me to believe that this will not always be the case.

[tank_post142]

Anvil wrote:Right now getting it up isn't a problem but I'm relatively young and strong

later on in life if you put one of those blue pills under the kickstand you'll still be able to get it up.

[dallastar]

HA HA HA HA LOL OMG ...... everytime i park im throwing a blue pill under kickstand  lol

Anvil wrote:Right now getting it up isn't a problem but I'm relatively young and strong

later on in life if you put one of those purple pills under the kickstand you'll still be able to get it up.

[doubletee]

I had to have Kit push me up once cause I couldnt get it off the kick stand. But there were other factors on board to hinder me.    Make sure if you do park with extension the bike dont fall over. I try and park on the high side if possible. If not I just lean with my weight as I grab the bars.

Fudgie, I tend to brace my left thigh against the very back part of the tank when standing over the bike and use it to move the bike off the stand. I have to use very little upper body strength when using this method. Don't know if my long legs might provide a bit of an advantage, but you might try it.

[Fritz The Cat]

I use a brick in the Garage to keep the bike from taking up too much space. Also gotta be careful when parking on an incline.

  My Goldwing has the opposite problem, it doesn't lean enough and the kickstand will poke into the ground if it's not rock hard. Once, on a stop at a DQ in the summer, it sunk into the asphalt about an inch while we were inside. Only thing that kept it from falling over was that it started standing nearly upright.

[The Anvil]

Anvil wrote:Right now getting it up isn't a problem but I'm relatively young and strong

later on in life if you put one of those blue pills under the kickstand you'll still be able to get it up.

It might stand up on it's own though. 

[Ricky-D]

"my complaint isnt that i cant lift my bike lol  trust me i hav no issues there ....my complaint is i think it looks like crap leaning that far offer"

It looks a lot worse when it's over on the other side!

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[Ricky-D]

"I use a brick in the Garage to keep the bike from taking up too much space."

Wait til you have a flat tire in the garage. it'll take up a whole lot more room then!

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[fudgie]

I had to have Kit push me up once cause I couldnt get it off the kick stand. But there were other factors on board to hinder me.    Make sure if you do park with extension the bike dont fall over. I try and park on the high side if possible. If not I just lean with my weight as I grab the bars.

Fudgie, I tend to brace my left thigh against the very back part of the tank when standing over the bike and use it to move the bike off the stand. I have to use very little upper body strength when using this method. Don't know if my long legs might provide a bit of an advantage, but you might try it.

The time I mentioned was the only time I had trouble. It was cause I was waaay drunk. 

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

If it doesn't lean enough and you have a flat while parked it will fall over on the right side.  Mine did it and wacked a 4x4 post on the way down and luckly only busted the chrome ring around the headlights. The cheapest part on the whole fairing, about 68 bucks.
   I now park it in a chock every time so that won't happen again.

[donaldcc]

  Anyone seen one of these??  They sort of look cheap . . . and they are! 

http://www.gripperusa.com/index.html

[tank_post142]

oohh! a kickstand condom!

[dallastar]

LMAO

oohh! a kickstand condom!

[Earl in Pensacola]

That "Gripper" with the attaching device looks like it would do three jobs--that is raise the kickstand foot off the floor by about an inch or slightly more (there-by lessening the lean angle) AND protect any surface from marring and also help prevent from a fall-over due to soft ground etc. All that for only $10 and shipping.  And you could paint it with a chrome or sliver paint!!

[Fasted]

I had my Harley blow over in a thunderstorm once (long story).  Last year when I picked up my Valkyrie in Fort Lauderdale to ride it home to PA, at my first stop I felt the Valkyrie was sitting to upright. The first morning getting on it, it almost fell over on me.  I was very uncomfortable all the way home and was very careful on how parked it.  When I got home I took the bike to Honda for state inspection and had them look at the stand. The tech wasn't very familiar with the Valkyrie but knew something was wrong. After two visits they figured the side stand suppotr bracket was bent. They said it wan't replacable.  After some internet research I found it had happened to many others: from hitting speed bumps and jumping curbs. I found BIGBF.COM he has a great step by step slid show of how to replace the brace and has a prefabed stout replacement brace.  It's a bitch to replace; my mechanics only charged me $250 to do the work. (He's reasonable).

My bike now sites correctly. :-) and I'm not worried about it blowing or falling over.  I really don't understand the problem with it sitting in the OEM position. I just sit in the seat and upright it. I’d rather be comfortable knowing it is going to stay where and how I park it.

PS. I'm 67 and can still get it up, no blue pill under my stand.

[Maddog vrcc#508]

  Anyone seen one of these??  They sort of look cheap . . . and they are! 

http://www.gripperusa.com/index.html

It looked so good I bought one.  I will post something on the board after I install it.