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Chrisj CMA
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« on: October 06, 2011, 11:29:43 AM » |
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I thought I had this all figured out, but its a mind twister sometimes. OK, I bought some spare parts, one of the parts I will be needing soon is the rear brake rotor. Now my bike is a '97 so its got the rotor with the thin shoulder inside and the non- recessed holes. The new (used ) part is the other (newer) kind. Now this is how I understand it, tell me if I am mistaken (been known to happen) If that new part is a 2000 and I have the wheel and rotor from the 2000 bike and keep them together (not change the rotor to a '97 wheel) then the 2000 wheel and rotor should bolt up. I looked in the HDL fishe and the caliper plate is the same pn from '97-2000  |
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R J
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2011, 11:51:55 AM » |
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97 Valkyrie you are playing with right?
00 Wheel you are mounting right?
If you answered yes to the above proceed, if not stop.
00 wheel, 00 rotor and 00 caliper will fit the 97 if you keep the 00 items matched.
Plain as mud isn't it.
DONOT try to mix and match the different year parts to mount on your 97.
All 97 parts, or all 00 parts.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2011, 12:10:19 PM » |
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97 Valkyrie you are playing with right?
00 Wheel you are mounting right?
If you answered yes to the above proceed, if not stop.
00 wheel, 00 rotor and 00 caliper will fit the 97 if you keep the 00 items matched.
Plain as mud isn't it.
DONOT try to mix and match the different year parts to mount on your 97.
All 97 parts, or all 00 parts.
Thanks RJ........I may have had a problem......I was going to try to bolt up the 2000 (actually I think its 2001) wheel and rotor to my bike with the '97 brake caliper.......I hear you saying thats a no-go dang! I have the 2001 caliper, just didnt want to get into changing hydraulic fluid and all just to change a wheel |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2011, 12:57:32 PM » |
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97 Valkyrie you are playing with right?
00 Wheel you are mounting right?
If you answered yes to the above proceed, if not stop.
00 wheel, 00 rotor and 00 caliper will fit the 97 if you keep the 00 items matched.
Plain as mud isn't it.
DONOT try to mix and match the different year parts to mount on your 97.
All 97 parts, or all 00 parts.
RJ you sure the caliper is different? Looks like the same pn in the HDL fishe. |
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 01:09:19 PM » |
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the caliper is good but the caliper mount is bad. you'll need an interstate or 01 and up caliper mount to center the caliper on the disk. ps: a number of people have just shimmed the mount out with a thin washer on the axel between the wheel and the mount. otherwise the mount will scrape on the outside of the disk.
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R J
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 01:14:05 PM » |
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I'm going from memory and that was 11 years ago that we did the conversion. I had bought some Chrome Wheels for MGM. See the Sept 2011 calendar.
I thought we changed the caliper, and I can't get ahold of my son right now, he is having knee surgery today, sometime. He was the one who finished the job for me, I could only go so long back then.
He was due to go to surgery at 10:00, and at 2:30 he was still in line to get into the surgery room. They must have hit one that took a sheet lot more work than expected.
Knowing him, he will tell them to shove it and walk out., if he is kept waiting much longer......
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2011, 01:36:01 PM » |
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the caliper is good but the caliper mount is bad. you'll need an interstate or 01 and up caliper mount to center the caliper on the disk. ps: a number of people have just shimmed the mount out with a thin washer on the axel between the wheel and the mount. otherwise the mount will scrape on the outside of the disk.
well, thats good if thats all...the plate is the easy part |
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RP#62
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2011, 06:23:17 PM » |
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I've got the same situation, i.e. '97 Tourer, with a spare rear wheel/rotor from a '00. I've never changed the caliper or bracket, I just change the wheel/rotor as an assembly and haven't had a problem.
-RP
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2011, 06:38:17 PM » |
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I've got the same situation, i.e. '97 Tourer, with a spare rear wheel/rotor from a '00. I've never changed the caliper or bracket, I just change the wheel/rotor as an assembly and haven't had a problem.
-RP
Thank you, thank you, thank you. |
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gordonv
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2011, 06:56:31 PM » |
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I've posted this before. Notes I saved from the same discussion.
Standard 1997 - 1999 Rear Brake Rotor is 43251-MT8-000
Standard 2000 - 2003 Rear Brake Rotor is 43251-MBY-671
Tourer 1997 - 1999 Rear Brake Rotor is 43251-MT8-000
Tourer 2000 Rear Brake Rotor is 43251-MBY-671
Interstate 1999 - 2001 Rear Brake Rotor is 43251-MBY-671
I/S wheels won't work unless ya take the disc and the caliper with it.
The wheels are all interchangeable. Differences: In 2000 and later, the rotor was different and the alignment with the caliper was off a bit. In 2001, all the wheels were polished and the area behind the rotors were just a cast surface. If you use your old rotor on the new wheel, you'll be fine.
If your bike is a '97-'99, use the old style rotor and bolts. '00-'03, use the new style.
But the old wheel has a 1J in front of the wheel size part# located on the rough casting of rotor side, where as the newer wheels have a 2J to start. Just a note! a ST1300 rotor will fit the old wheel also. 99 Int has the new wheel.
I'm pretty sure no matter what year wheel! if you have the oem rotor for the wheel it will fit fine on any!
No. The rotor has to match the year of the bike. For example, if you try to install an '01 wheel on a '97 with the '01 rotor, you will have to shim the rotor so it won't hit the caliper mount. If you install a '97 rotor on the '01 wheel, you won't have a problem.
The wheel rims are all the same. THE rotor year must match the year of the bike for the rear wheel.
Read Sandy's post above. The match of bike year to wheel year isn't important, the bike year to rotor year is.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2011, 07:10:19 PM » |
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well I can tell you from side by side careful measurements. Whoever said the year of the wheel doesnt matter is wrong. The hub where the rotor mounts is longer on the 1J than the 2J so Im hoping that makes the 2001 thicker rotor line up where its supposed to be.
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gordonv
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2011, 07:14:38 PM » |
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When you use the word thicher, you are referring to the width of the rim.
I'll add your note to my notes also.
Anything else? Does all the rest jive with what you have found out?
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2011, 07:22:33 PM » |
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When you use the work thicher, you are referring to the width of the rim.
I'll add you note to my notes also.
Anything else? Does all the rest jive with what you have found out?
When I say thicker I mean the 2000 and later rotor has a solid (thicker) center portion that would make it protrude laterally (left side) too much unless the hub was shorter (which it is) on the 2000 vintage wheel |
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