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« on: October 09, 2011, 03:53:51 PM » |
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Well, I was curious about the starbrite, and in the two weeks I've been riding the Valk, I think this stuff works..... On my 2500 mile trip, I averaged about 35MPG. This was in a variety of conditions. I don't ride it hard, but I'm not easy either....Driving through the Smokies I was all over with speed and acceleration. Yesterday was a quite strange finding. Participated in the MO Fall ride. Filled up before I departed, and when I refilled, I was at about 135 on the odometer, still had not hit reserve. This was a pretty easy pace. Took right at 4 gals......so, about 34. On the way back, I was solo, and needed to make some time. First 80 miles I was driving about 65....Last 50 miles averaging 80. I filled back up today. Was shocked, (literally)... 4.2 Gallons to fill. 138 miles on the odometer. 33.65 MPG. And that was hauling ass!! Worst thing about this?? Looks like I can haul ass more and not worry about the drop in MPG!!  |
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Richythebluesman
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2011, 04:13:25 PM » |
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Starbrite is good stuff. Such a small amount goes a long way to do it's stuff. At first I was cautious too. I greatly appreceiate that it got rid of that awfull stink from the exhaust.  |
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gordorad
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2011, 04:20:32 PM » |
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Yep, I"ve purchased the high concentrate stuff..(says treats 128 gallons)...According to my calculations, only a quarter ounce is needed for every 4 gallons.......Basically, I'll be able to fill 32 tanks (at 4 gals per fill) for .35 per "shot". Not bad!!
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Danny
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2011, 05:03:21 PM » |
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What is the starbright stuff...a fuel stabilizer?
Danny
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gordorad
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2011, 05:16:31 PM » |
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http://mystarbrite.com/startron/That's the link......It does seem to work...Of course, I"ve never not used it. But from what I've read, my fuel economy seems to be pretty good.
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Richythebluesman
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2011, 05:20:42 PM » |
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My stealers parts man suggested I try Starbight's Startron.
The package says it cures "ethanol problems" Since he never steared me wrong, I bought a bottle.
Three remarkabkle things happened to my Valk;
1st the terrible exhaust smell was eliminated;
2nd the throttle responce improved;
3rd the gas milage went up by 10 to 15 %.
Usually when I pull the trailer I was getting 33 MPG, last time (with Startron) I got 38 MPG.
I tried the product in my car, the gas milage went up also to 10 to 15 % improvement from 22 highway to 27 highway MPG.
The product will do other positive things. I checked with the parts man @ Auto Zone, he rates it the best for what it does.
If it does nothing more than increase my MPG, the product pays for itself.
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BF
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2011, 07:12:55 PM » |
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Is it safe to add to a tank that already has Techron or Seafoam mixed in the gas already?
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 08:39:19 AM » |
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My results were that it made the bike need less choke on cool mornings. I had no change in fuel economy except one tank worth where I accidentally dumped in about 3 times the recommended dosage. And it was only 2mpg difference. Still, starts easier...
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The Anvil
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 08:44:45 AM » |
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Snake oil.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2011, 09:41:38 AM » |
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2011, 10:19:11 AM » |
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Interesting link!
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Thanks,
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Westsider
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2011, 12:06:03 PM » |
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I usually give the tank a couple shots of marvel mystery oil every now and then. She seems to like it..I think its just automatic transmission fluid myself...Anyone really know what that marvel really is????
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we'll be there when we get there - Valkless,, on lookout....
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2011, 04:23:34 PM » |
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I had a blister pack containing two bottles of startron fuel treatment given to me as a door prize. First it did seem to smooth out my idle, no gas mileage improvement with this tank. I am running one more tank with it to see if it helps with the mileage. Other than that I am back to using techron every once in a while when I catch it on sale and a little stabil when sitting for the winter months.
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Richythebluesman
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2011, 05:21:05 PM » |
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Snake oil.
What is the basis of your opinion? |
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The Anvil
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2011, 08:17:16 PM » |
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Snake oil.
What is the basis of your opinion? That constant (as in; every tank) fuel augmentation always turns out to be ineffective or used to correct a problem that could be solved by other means. I see too many of these things on the market (now with ENZYMES!) and none of them do a cursed thing. An occasional treatment of Seafoam or Techron to keep the fuel system dry and clean is one thing, but if you need this stuff every day then you might want to start poking around elsewhere. |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2011, 09:57:04 AM » |
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The stuff I put in my gas tank all the time is ethanol free gasoline.
If you (whomever) were to use the lists, to find ethanol free gasoline stations, and start using this gas exclusively the results would be a very positive reinforcement of the deleterious effects of running your bike with E-10 gasoline.
When considering the cost of using those aftermarket gasoline additives, the per gallon price of a using a better gasoline becomes moot.
I don't know how anyone could think that E-10 gasoline is an improvement over non-ethanol enriched gasoline.
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Westsider
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2011, 11:42:10 AM » |
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i agree ricky d ...this stuff sucks....for carbuereted engines anyway,,and around the metromess they tell me you have to be 2 counties outside dallas or tarrant (fort worth) county to get it ,,ive checked the internet , called ..to far away for me....its a waste to farm all that crappy grade corn just for ethanol....it cant make that much less emmissions....... once you figure in all the equipment it takes to get it...am i missing something.... sorry.. i didnt read chiefy's post till after this one...ill getter figued out one of these days...  |
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Richythebluesman
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2011, 05:12:40 PM » |
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That constant (as in; every tank) fuel augmentation always turns out to be ineffective or used to correct a problem that could be solved by other means. I see too many of these things on the market (now with ENZYMES!) and none of them do a cursed thing. An occasional treatment of Seafoam or Techron to keep the fuel system dry and clean is one thing, but if you need this stuff every day then you might want to start poking around elsewhere.
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I'm with you in regards to adding or subtracting something to get a different result, but differ with you when you say "ineffective."
My use of the product has tangable resutls that can be quantified, not opinionated.
I have used Techron, but I could not descern any gained "improvement" that I could document, other than I poured money into the fuel tank.
Go back and re-read my prior post, among other things the product does is it gives me a return on the money I spent on it, greater fuel economy means pay back.
My opinion is based on fact, your results may be different.
Someone suggested using non ethanol fuel, that's not an option, it's not available around here.
I used non ethanol premium (that's was the only grade available) before it was elimated in this area, so I have experience with the range of fuel. There was no improvement in MPG with the higher priced premuim non ethanol, but there was an improvement in the smoothness of the idle, that was the only discernable difference, not worth the additional cost in my opinion.
When I spent some time this summer (multiple fill ups on bike) in an area of the state that has non ethanol premium, I tried "before and after" test's with Startron, with the same results. Without Starton use the mileage dropped, the throttle response decreased, it started up slower, idled slower and rougher, and the exhaust put a big hurt on my nose. Next fill up with the non ethanol premium brought back the milage and desireable running characteristics.
It's OK by me if you want to call it snake oil, I found snake oil that gives me a pay back.
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