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Korea Man
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« on: October 10, 2011, 12:08:58 PM » |
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Hi Folks....
Well here is the BLUF :
1. Prepted the bike (1999 Valkyrie Interstate) for my departure to Iraq - STA-BIL full ags tank etc.
2. Went to Iraq for about a year - Grrrr!!!.
3. Got back from Iraq whew - in one piece.
4. Got fresh battery(not the problem)Drained Tank added fresh fuel, added SEA FOAM and tried to crank the bike. Ran only with choke on full. ...at first only with full choke- no prob I am thinking...just getting the bad stuff out of the carbs...but no joy...slowly to just a bit rough..started to smooth out but WILL NOT run w/o choke on... it will only runs -although a bit rough - with 3/4 choke or more... anywhere from 1800 to 2400rpm(approx). I am a bit concerned to get out on the road with this condition.
5. Am idead in the water - and need to take it to the dealer or is there a less expensive resolution.
6. Please feel free to contact me @ Danny.Ray.Herron@gmail.com; or here.....Thanks...and yes it's so nice to be back...I used to be on here as Wingster80, but password issues.....don't ask! LOL!!!
If there is anybody in the HUNTSVILLE AL area that would like to help me clean this up or help me take the carbs out and clean them...let me know...
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DANNY R. HERRON
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 01:32:58 PM » |
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Did you drain out the old gas? If not, Start there. Drain the carb bowls also. Fresh gas, and a whole can of seafoam, Run the bike until the gas gets worked into the carbs, then let it sit ovenight. Some say that running the bike with the choke on at slow speeds in higher gears will help clear slow jets. I have never had to drive mine with the choke on, gut anything is worth the try. If that won't clear it probably need to dissassemble the carbs and clean them, and replace the jets. Hope this helps. Maybe you can find someone on the board that lives near you to help clean stuff up. Lots of guys LIKE working on the beast  |
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Korea Man
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 01:55:24 PM » |
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I hope my answer got back to you....have a great evening and be careful and make sure to keep the rubber side down!
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DANNY R. HERRON
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 03:50:47 PM » |
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Techron is more aggressive than Seafoam. Use a whole can to no more thwn 1/2 tank of fresh gas. Run it long enough to get it fully hot. Let it sit over night then run it again.
Good luck
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Korea Man
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 04:31:10 PM » |
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Thanks so much. I have used that as well (the Techron stuff)....but no joy  . I really appreciate all the info but looks like something is just too gummed up...I have run it for several minutes at a high idle and it has seemd to improve from the very start of thi issue....but if I adjust it less that 3/4 choke it dies...so you can see why I am a bit hesitant to take it out onto the road....I am just not compatent enough to do a tear down....so I'll give it an other bottle tomorrow and see how she works...THANKS TO ALL :cooldude:who have read this, and have offered their kind words of help and encouragement...kinda sad...was thinking about riding my whole time away...oh well....I truly appreciate the thoughts.....again if anybody near Huntsville can give me a hand before I have it hauled to the local dealer...sure would love to hear from you.... |
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DANNY R. HERRON
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Brian
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 04:43:39 PM » |
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Korea Man,
Welcome home soldier. Thank you for your service. I wish you were closer or I would help you.
When I got my 97 going after sitting for over 2 years, cleaning the carbs five times and replacing all the needle valves and fuel runner o-rings it started to come to life. I later found three burnt valves by a compression test and almost all the fuel enrichment valves were some what stuck in place. The inlet screen on the petcock tube was covered in gum and crap from the tank, this was the first thing I did. I started slow and meticulous using the shop manual. Once this fat lady started to run on it's own I ran a few tanks with techron. She purrrrs like a kitten now.Then I went with the trigger wheel mod that cleared up the stumble when first starting out and haven't looked back.
I would try many tanks of techron before digging in if it is drivable.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2011, 04:48:52 PM » |
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Korea Man,
Read the subject line "Dumb question", there is good suggestion for a fuel additive for you to try.
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Korea Man
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 06:02:27 PM » |
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AWSOME...I'll get the additive(s) tomorrow and see what we can do...cleaning the carbs five times...whew!?
Brian, sounds like "checking the head space and timing"..if your an old soldier you know what I am saying...Thanks again all....
I'll keep putting the stuff...is there any point where it could be an issue of too much chemicals(easy now..in the bike) and not enough gas?
Regardless, I am going to put in a couple tommorrow and see what hgappnes. I don't think I have the mechanical issues as she ran very very well before departure to the land of dirt!
Again thanks all!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 07:49:03 PM » |
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1st off, Semper fi.
Your 1st mistake was to use that stuff called, StaBil.
Sounds like it is the low speed jets. Put some Techron or SeaFoam in the tank, full tank full can. Run it long enough to get the mixture into the carbs. Park it and shut it off till tomorrow. Tomorrow, start it and keep it running any way ya can, keep the RPM's under 2,000, preferable around 1,500. Ride it around town, no highway time just yet. It should start to clean out, and start running like a 6 banger should.
Park it and shut it off. Repeat the above step until ya need to add gas, preferably like 4.0 gal, and another full can of Techron or Sea Foam in the tank and repeat the above daily steps.
If it doesn't clear up in 3 tanks, then start checking 'O'rings on the intake, clamps on the air box, vacuum lines and etc.
Still can't find it, then try a dealer, only a GOOD however.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2011, 10:20:10 PM » |
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Welcome home soldier
Sad to hear about you bike. Try the chemical route a lot of good results there and if it does not work then download the shop manual and at least take a look at the carb rebuild procedure and see if you got what it takes. I mean up to this point you are pennies on the dollar....that tune changes once you go to the stealer. Don't cheat yourself. I came through alright its very detailed. Great members here for all your questions and concerns and more knowledge about these flat girls than most dealers. For my girl new gas and fuel petcock carb clean rebuild with o rings and new jets came through fine the first time. It sounds overwhelming but honestly after you follow the procedure for through the first carb the other five just fly by.
Good luck...and thank you!
Danny
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Korea Man
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 04:28:47 AM » |
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WOW! Talk about "Cavalry to the Rescue!"
Thanks loads guys..I'll concentrate on the low rpm stuff...I have been just trying to keep the revs up .....so actually I have been going above the RPM to actually clean the affected or suspected jets.
So we'll keep our fingers crossed...and you absolutely right about the "Stealers." Unfortunately...and that is sad...one would like to think that they would be the right ones to turn to in times of need...That's exactly why they have to have such high rates...because they more often fail than help....and thereby loose customers....
Thanks again, Gentlemen...hopefully we'll see each other on the road!!!
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2011, 06:02:00 PM » |
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Korea man,
When I bought this ride from the PO it had sat for almost three years and wasn't running. It had less than 900 miles on the odometer. I gave $4,300 for a motorcycle that was $12,000 new. It took me four weeks worth of work in the evenings and on the weekends. I spent a little over $1,000 for the parts including the manual, the right floor jack, compression gauge and a spring compressor. The parts man at my local dealer put this way, ever hour I put into the bike I save $69 per hour, their shop rate at the time. I figured it was a project and an excellent learning experience. All this before I found this site. There are a lot of good wrench benders here so pay attention to what they tell you. I feel not 1 dollar of my money was wasted nor my time. It was a great journey taking my time as I went.
If you go to the dealer, find one that will honestly tell you they have an old hand there that knows these bikes. I worry about these younger guys coming out of tech school that work on crotch rockets.
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Korea Man
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 04:02:08 AM » |
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Thanks Brian...I appreciate your advice. Well I put the stuff in and let it run for a while...then shuit it down and am waiting for the next day to start it up...AGAIN! ...Grrr.  ...and we'll see...I think I may have a project coming down the road....I'll let you guys know!!!! Thanks to all...and if there is anyone else who can prep me for the tear down let me now! I would be happy to talk off line, via personnal email or of course the phone.... I do have a sop manual so that is ok.......and a good set of tools...adn can buy some additional if needed...so that's not too much of a problem....one I do have - if I do have to break down and take the carbs off...do I need to seperate them or keep them on the "rack" and keep them as a "team?" Thanks again to all |
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Korea Man
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2011, 07:03:25 AM » |
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Thanks Chiefy....I'll give it a whack on the old starter in a few and let folks know what's up...Thanks! The drain thing looks good however....hope I don't swallow any gas! UGHHH....
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2011, 10:50:15 AM » |
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Well - I guess that cuts it....no joy in Mudville  ...the bike has not improved...I may try "drain the carb cleaner through the carbs" idea....but may actually tackle the removal of the carbs...on second thought that may actually be the best thing...that way there is no real question of their status....so if there are any others out there plus those that have already spoken, to help me out let me know......Most likely will start next week/weekend as I have to go to DC later this week/weekend. I truly appreciate all that have written...wish me luck  |
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2011, 11:57:45 AM » |
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Well - I guess that cuts it....no joy in Mudville ...the bike has not improved...I may try "drain the carb cleaner through the carbs" idea....but may actually tackle the removal of the carbs...on second thought that may actually be the best thing...that way there is no real question of their status....so if there are any others out there plus those that have already spoken, to help me out let me know......Most likely will start next week/weekend as I have to go to DC later this week/weekend. I truly appreciate all that have written...wish me luck If you can't get to it until at least next week, may as well start the "drain through the bowls" but stop when they're full and let it sit for a couple of days, then try the draining procedure. If it works, it works. |
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Korea Man
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2011, 12:06:37 PM » |
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Thanks and we'll give it a try! Have a day.....
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2011, 02:40:04 PM » |
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You know, I've been looking for that thread for a long time now. I knew I read it here, but couldn't find it. Thanks for reposting it. |
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2011, 03:12:38 PM » |
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You know, I've been looking for that thread for a long time now. I knew I read it here, but couldn't find it. Thanks for reposting it. Some times I can search out a needle in a haystack. Sometimes I can't find water if I fall out of a boat. |
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Korea Man
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2011, 04:21:59 PM » |
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Hey look at me...I actually helped someone help some else with my problems..."from a sows ear!" LOL!!!!!
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