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« on: October 28, 2011, 05:21:49 PM » |
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I have a Badlands module on my bike to make the turns signals into 3 ways, stop, turn and run. I now have LED signals on the back which blink too fast. I need to order an equalizer. Badlands asked me this: What type of flasher we have? Is it Thermal or Electric or Runs through ECU? Hope I phrased this correct.
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« Last Edit: October 28, 2011, 11:08:42 PM by STEELERS - Rude Dog »
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RonW
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 05:55:25 PM » |
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a load equalizer would only negate any electricity saved from using LEDs. Another option is to replace the stock flasher with an electronic flasher which won't be affected by the low resistance of the LEDs which causes the faster flashing rate. In basic terms, the thermal type (non-electronic) has a thin strip of metal or bimetal that heats up and flexes back and forth causing the signal to flash off and on. The way I understand it is that the LEDs' low resistance allows too high a current to run through the metal strip causing the metal strip to (heat up) flex back and forth too rapidly. All a load equalizer is, is a large resistor to drop the undesired current but in the process the voltage drop across the extra resistor amounts to wasted energy. Does a thermal flasher "run through the Ecu"? I doubt it but perhaps.
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GOOSE
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 07:32:35 PM » |
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STEELERS.....show chrome/big bike parts makes that flasher to straighten out the turn signals. they sell it in the parts-unlimited catalog. i don't like the load equalizer only because of the heat that they put off.
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RUDE DOG - Steelers
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 11:09:50 PM » |
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Do you have LED lights also? So I wouldnt need the equalizer than. Might be a dumb question but where is the flasher located?
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BonS
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 08:12:15 AM » |
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The flasher module is behind the left side cover.
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The Anvil
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 08:21:03 AM » |
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Dude, I'd like to recommend that you keep the faster flashers. They're much more noticeable than the standard flashing rate. I mean if it bugs you that's one thing but just throwing that out there.
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 08:49:13 AM » |
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+1 Custom Dynamics.
Ordered their LED license plate frame with the dual brake strips and turns built in. Was right on line in price with the others that had only a single strip LED and the quality is amazing.
Also not affiliated.
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RonW
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 09:23:03 AM » |
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I had 'faster flashing' inadvertently with the turn signals on my other bike and I noticed that the 'blinking' isn't as conspicuous through red lens during the daylight hours. That's the red lens that are required for rear running lights to be legal. With the stock ambers the faster flashing isn't a problem. This was with stock Honda turn signals, with red lens. Your rear signals (below) obviously aren't stock but you might want to take a look at them standing from a distance if you chose to retain the faster flashing.  |
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RUDE DOG - Steelers
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2011, 12:52:19 PM » |
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That was my thought too that the fast flashing would be more noticeable. But with these LED's, they blink so fast that it doesnt look like they are going out. My buddies told me their useless like they are riding behind me. Needless to say, thats why Im looking for a fix. Going to call Custom Dynamics on Monday and hopefully that flasher will solve my problem.
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BonS
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2011, 01:49:21 PM » |
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I have LED rear turns and the flashing was too fast. I was going to get an electronic flasher but along the way I added the 2-BSeen ( http://2-bseen.com/ $99) handlebar flasher/brake light 'thingy'. It too is LED but it added enough load to the stock flasher that the flash rate is real close to stock. I'm happy. I really like the 2-bseen thingy a lot as well. |
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The Anvil
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 01:51:30 PM » |
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That was my thought too that the fast flashing would be more noticeable. But with these LED's, they blink so fast that it doesnt look like they are going out.
Well then that's no good. |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 06:32:31 PM » |
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Heres an electronic flasher for the hondas to fix the fast flash. Plug and play. http://www.jpcycles.com/product/ZZ33557 |
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 09:44:31 PM » |
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I got some LED turns signals on the front , had the same problem..went to Chromeglow.com and got a LED flasher..plug and play..took care of the problem and only cost 28 bucks to my door.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2011, 08:57:17 AM » |
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FWIW, the flasher module is under the seat in front of the the battery compartment. Kinda buried but is accessible. As I recall, it's held in place with a rubber mount...don't quote me on that.
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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2011, 09:18:07 AM » |
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Thanks guys. Ill be picking up one of those flashers posted.
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2011, 12:06:30 PM » |
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Just thought I would share.
Last winter when I pulled my fuel tank, I replaced my OEM flasher unit with the one from J&P cycles, I believe its a Show Chrome unit.
Well a few weeks ago I notice the flash rate would change as the day progressed. then it stuck on.
Do after 6 months it no longer flashes, the lights stay on instead of flashing. I had to change back to my stock flasher and pull the led tail bulbs...
Think about your modifications... what happens if it fails and you are hundreds a miles from home, what the plan 'B'?
I think I will go with loads/resistors or find a better more quality flasher unit...
Just thought I would share.
John
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2011, 12:40:17 PM » |
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FWIW, the flasher module is under the seat in front of the the battery compartment. Kinda buried but is accessible. As I recall, it's held in place with a rubber mount...don't quote me on that.
I think all of those relays are hooked to the battery box in the front. I had the engine out by the time I got to them, so I don't know how hard they are to reach. I believe you might have a better chance from the left side of the bike. |
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2011, 03:34:28 AM » |
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Just thought I would share.
Last winter when I pulled my fuel tank, I replaced my OEM flasher unit with the one from J&P cycles, I believe its a Show Chrome unit.
Well a few weeks ago I notice the flash rate would change as the day progressed. then it stuck on.
Do after 6 months it no longer flashes, the lights stay on instead of flashing. I had to change back to my stock flasher and pull the led tail bulbs...
Think about your modifications... what happens if it fails and you are hundreds a miles from home, what the plan 'B'?
I think I will go with loads/resistors or find a better more quality flasher unit...
Just thought I would share.
John
I'm assuming your replacement was an 'electronic' flasher and malfunctioned. The OP is using an electronic flasher in conjunction with a turn/run/brake module for the rear signals. It's more a matter of a necessity because adding LEDs makes his turn signal go bonkers. Other than that, I don't understand the need to replace the stock flasher units with electronic flashers. When electronic chips malfunction they get stuck in their ON mode. When component wears out in mechanical devices generally the devices remain OFF. That's mainly why I personally prefer mechanical over electronic controls. I may not be alone in this. For example, the typical borsh-type relays have electronic versions. Yet most of the relays on the market remain mechanical with a coil of wire for the electro-magnet and metal levers to open and close the contacts. *Btw, good reminder of having a Plan B. |
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Bartman3562
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2011, 07:58:49 AM » |
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Go to auto zone, buy an EP34 flasher unit and 3, 1/4 inch electrical female blade connectors. Making sure you get orientation correct, cut off factory connector and install 3 blades on factory wires. Plug EP34 relay into the 3 plugs and you are done. About $10, and every autozone sells them if you ever have a problem on the road. Makes sure it is the 34 though. Took 3 attempts to find the one that worked properly.
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