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http://rt.com/usa/news/rand-paul-battlefield-amendment-501/Thank God for the Tea Party Thank God for the Constitutiuon Thank God for the Libertarians I see it coming can you? As lawmakers this week look over a provision that would turn the United States in a warzone and allow the military to detain Americans indefinitely, Senator Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) is trying to tackle the text by offering an amendment of his own. A provision to the National Defense Authorization Act going before the Senate today would turn America into a “battlefield,” says supporter Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina.), and would allow the president of the United States the power to detain citizens domestically without trial, allowing the US military to act as law enforcement over their own civilians. In response, Paul, son of libertarian icon and Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul, is proposing an amendment that would strike that provision of the legislation, Section 1031, right off the bill. When RT reported on the story yesterday, we noted that Colorado Senator Mark Udall had offered an amendment of his own which would require Congress to consider whether any detention legislation would be legal. Paul, rather, is trying to bypass that determination and instead strike Section 1031 off completely. “Section 1031 essentially repeals the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 by authorizing the US military to perform law enforcement functions on American soil,” writes Udall. “That alone should alarm my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, but there are other problems with these provisions that must be resolved.” While Udall’s amendment has received backing from the American Civil Liberties Union, Rand Paul’s more powerful proposal would do far more to thwart the transformation of America into a battlefield. “There are other similar Amendments too, however none of them completely eliminate the constitutionally offensive section,” reports the Tennessee Campaign for Liberty. Reporting live from a Senate hearing this morning, the ACLU reports that Paul called the proposed provision dangerously vague and said that Americans should not sacrifice their liberties for supposed security. Along with Senator Jim Webb (D-Virginia), they both offered their support for the Udall Amendment this morning. By 3 p.m., however, the ACLU reported that the amendment had failed in a vote of 37-61. Should Paul’s own amendment be approved, it would, according to the official filing, “remove language affirming the authority of the Armed Forces to detain certain persons pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force.”
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 12:42:25 PM » |
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Good for you, Al. Many people are Libertarians without even knowing it. Here is a quick and informative 7-question exercise: World's Smallest Political Quiz
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 12:49:38 PM » |
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Good for you, Al. Many people are Libertarians without even knowing it. Here is a quick and informative 7-question exercise: World's Smallest Political QuizInteresting. My test results confirmed my belief that I am a Libertarian.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 12:57:19 PM » |
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The Tea Party. 
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 01:09:00 PM » |
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Posse Comitatus?  People you lost that under W. after 911! ???
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 01:11:48 PM » |
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http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz_result?e=70&i=50_70.gif&p=50The red dot was on the line for centrist, libertarian and conservative Now I am really confused
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When you come to the fork in the road, take it Yogi Berra (Don't send it to me C.O.D.)
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 01:13:59 PM » |
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Good for you, Al. Many people are Libertarians without even knowing it. Here is a quick and informative 7-question exercise: World's Smallest Political QuizCool! I'm a commie liberal.  Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80% Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30% According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is... Liberals usually embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but tend to support significant government control of the economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net" to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations, defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 01:16:37 PM » |
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Good for you, Al. Many people are Libertarians without even knowing it. Here is a quick and informative 7-question exercise: World's Smallest Political QuizCool! I'm a commie liberal.  Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80% Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30% According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is... Liberals usually embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but tend to support significant government control of the economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net" to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations, defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles. 
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 01:20:55 PM » |
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These definitions are rather antiquated/idealistic/wrong. I know lots of "liberals" who aren't all that keen on personal expression when it conflicts with their own views.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 01:21:33 PM » |
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P.S. Ron Paul I like. His kid is a dope.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 01:27:50 PM » |
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^^^^^^^ Peelin back the onion. Alot of liberals are more conservative than they think too.
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Aot of guys with burn marks,gnarly scars and funny twitches ask why I spend so much on safety gear
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 01:29:45 PM » |
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Apparently, I'm straddling the fence between centrist and libertarian. Sounds about right to me. http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz_result?e=60&i=70_60.gif&p=70Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70% Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 60%
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I can't help about the shape I'm in I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin But don't ask me what I think of you I might not give the answer that you want me to 
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 01:50:09 PM » |
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P.S. Ron Paul I like. His kid is a dope.
your just pissed caues his kid wont bang you................lol
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 01:51:14 PM » |
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hows that for a commie lib view?
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 01:53:12 PM » |
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P.S. Ron Paul I like. His kid is a dope.
your just pissed caues his kid wont bang you................lol Yeah I have way higher standards than that.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2011, 01:56:01 PM » |
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Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%
According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...
Libertarians support maximum liberty in both personal and economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence. Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2011, 03:15:34 PM » |
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90,,,,,,,,,,,,,,40 OMG I am a liberal. That test is skewed I say, skewed. Not right. It can't be. Its a trick. 
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2011, 03:24:03 PM » |
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90,,,,,,,,,,,,,,40 OMG I am a liberal. That test is skewed I say, skewed. Not right. It can't be. Its a trick.  Easy now, Al... You're riding a Harley now, so this should wear off in a few months. 
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2011, 03:49:20 PM » |
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The Tea Party.  keep laughing ya chucklehead 
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2011, 03:55:01 PM » |
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The Tea Party.  keep laughing ya chucklehead  Gigglin' my motherf**kin ass off. 
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2011, 04:27:10 PM » |
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100 and 70. Oh good grief, I'm a militant, hardcore, formerly long haired, fire and brimstone, rock & roll loving, deer hunting, boozing, motorcycling, well armed, gun toting, BS'ing, Libertarian Freak. SWEET! 
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"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And... moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.'' -- Barry Goldwater, Acceptance Speech at the Republican Convention; 1964 
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2011, 04:35:09 PM » |
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The Tea Party.  keep laughing ya chucklehead  Gigglin' my motherf**kin ass off.  yea he is giggling over the thought of being in the prone pos with ron pauls kid..........lol
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2011, 05:13:51 PM » |
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I first took this quiz over a year ago and was a Libertarian. I just took it again and I am still a Libertarian. Go figure, and I work for the government.
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Thanks, ~Farther
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2011, 05:33:53 PM » |
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The Tea Party.  keep laughing ya chucklehead  Gigglin' my motherf**kin ass off.  yea he is giggling over the thought of being in the prone pos with ron pauls kid..........lol I'm a power bottom.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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