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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 03:08:50 PM » |
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I've been saying for years that these guys are idiots and have no business doing "experiments".
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 05:30:08 PM » |
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Name calling again... You know you would be a troubled kid in today's schools... They would classify you as a bully... (Not that I couldn't handle you). Kids today are taught to run and tell on them. My dad always told me to stand my ground and fight for those who couldn't. I sure wish your posts were more entertaining. hell they are on every thread. Just say'n 
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 06:08:44 PM » |
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I'm surprised that more care wasn't taken to "look down-field" so to speak. Who in their right mind test-fires a cannon TOWARDS a town  I mean really...when I go out to shoot my gun, I don't put my backstop at someone's front door.... Say it out loud... CANNON = BFG (big F#^$%# Gun) I am a big fan of mythbusters, but this was DUMB 
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 06:37:01 PM » |
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Holy Ballistics Batman! I would like to see the out takes on this one! Thank goodness nobody was hurt. This sounds better then the hot water tank blowing up!
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 07:08:23 PM » |
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I've been saying for years that these guys are idiots and have no business doing "experiments".
Idiots? They are doing something they love to do, many people like them, they look like they have tons of fun doing it, take many precautions to be safe (accidents do happen), and have gotten a lot of people interested in science. And I really like the show, have watched it since day 1. But, everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how wrong it might be. lol.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 07:36:56 PM » |
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On a positive note, it was just a cannon ball and not a cement truck.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 10:26:43 PM » |
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I wonder how they are going to handle this episode on the show! If past shows are any measure, they won't shrink from admitting wrong, showing the whole thing during the episode, and apologizing. They are normally pretty careful, but everything is so dangerous and untested, things are bound to go wrong sometime.
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2011, 05:47:29 AM » |
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Love the show. Can't wait to see the episode!
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2011, 07:34:02 AM » |
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Name calling again... You know you would be a troubled kid in today's schools... They would classify you as a bully... (Not that I couldn't handle you). Kids today are taught to run and tell on them. My dad always told me to stand my ground and fight for those who couldn't. I sure wish your posts were more entertaining. hell they are on every thread. Just say'n  You reaching pretty far to call me a bully because I'm taking issue with what was clearly a very stupid decision. I've seen them do experiments with firearms (just rifles no less) at a big dry lake bead before. Was the giant dry lake bed not available on this day? Nobody was killed in this mishap, that appears to have only been through the grace of god or dumb luck. Besides, those idiots aren't going to see this. But what if someone had been killed? Think about the repercussions that could have. Next thing you know the anti gun-crowd is trying to come up with even more restrictive legislation regarding where and what you can shoot. If you think that it's a reach to think that the fallout over something like this couldn't affect firearms all the way down the line then you're wrong. In fact, it might anyway! I'll imagine that the range they used will be affected by this stupidity. They're "idiots" because clearly they don't understand the dangers of working with artillery. They also conduct their experiments haphazardly with almost no scientific method or procedure so the "data" they collect is little more than worthless. In a lot of cases they fail to effectively bust any myths at all.
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2011, 07:51:14 AM » |
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News on TV this morning says this experiment will not be aired.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 02:00:38 PM » |
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I've been saying for years that these guys are idiots and have no business doing "experiments".
even the 'experts' can miscalculate badly. years ago we all shook our collective heads over an 'experienced' elk hunter that was left by his friends with only a rifle and a jean jacket. hypothermia set in and he died, shocking I know. you can push yourself, but air on the side of EXTREME caution.
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2011, 03:31:51 PM » |
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...I'll imagine that the range they used will be affected by this stupidity.
They're "idiots" because clearly they don't understand the dangers of working with artillery....
Alameda County Sheriff's bomb range. Under their supervision.
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2011, 03:34:18 PM » |
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My Nieces husbands late father Nick, A great machinist, hunter and a real good shooter made a black powder cannon. Not big, fires a one inch lead ball. The thing is maybe 12 /14 inches long. Milled steel, nicely done. Uses smokeless Black Powder. Holy Cow can this thing break stuff!!! Loud. Without a ball just wadding OMG!! destroys cement block, doubled 5/8 plywood. They had some balls made with wheel weights much harder then lead because of the antimony in them, shot through an over three inch thick tree. The Myth Busters got real lucky they did not kill anyone.
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2011, 05:11:21 PM » |
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I'd love to have their job... That'd be a great way to make a living. 
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 06:22:27 PM » |
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Several years ago me and a buddy built a half-scale civil war cannon. 1 1/2" smooth bore. We made 16 ounce balls and mini balls out of wheel weights. Charge was 2 to 4 (max) ounces of black powder. The power behind that charge and a one pound projectile was amazing. We made a mortar that shot bowling balls -- clean out of sight to the naked eye with four ounces of powder. I can't imagine a 30 pound ball -- and going through a house and a mini van before the dust settled! How much powder was behind it? And how far away was the house that they bombed? They do some interesting experiments, but on a Sheriffs dept. range? "Assuming" they had ordnance experts supervising, I'm curious to know what exactly they did wrong. Incredible stroke of luck that nobody got killed in the process.
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2011, 04:45:31 AM » |
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This isn't even the 1st time they have lost a cannon ball.
When they did the steam cannon thing they launched a cannon ball a mile on the airstrip. They finally found it... but it took them like 4 hours to figure it out. It went the length of the airstrip, and the levee on the end caught it.
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2011, 11:45:25 PM » |
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Always late to the party. The video was taken down.
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2011, 06:59:38 AM » |
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2011, 09:34:30 AM » |
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They're decisions concerning what is possible and what is not are not always right. They did two episodes trying to prove/disprove the possibility of a "robin hood", one arrow splitting another and decided both times it's not possible. But, I have two sets of "robin hooded" carbon arrows here at the house.
That being said, I'd love to have their jobs and we have to remember, their main job is to get good enough ratings to stay on the air. Their firearms experiments have all been pretty well done in my opinion. They've made some mistakes as we all have. But........
I don't think any of main characters have woke up stupid a day in their lives.
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2011, 12:20:15 PM » |
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They're decisions concerning what is possible and what is not are not always right. They did two episodes trying to prove/disprove the possibility of a "robin hood", one arrow splitting another and decided both times it's not possible. But, I have two sets of "robin hooded" carbon arrows here at the house.
That being said, I'd love to have their jobs and we have to remember, their main job is to get good enough ratings to stay on the air. Their firearms experiments have all been pretty well done in my opinion. They've made some mistakes as we all have. But........
I don't think any of main characters have woke up stupid a day in their lives.
Remember the one where they tried to prove that you couldn't be killed by a falling bullet? Their conclusion was that you could not. But you most certainly can, the problem with the experiment was that they fired the bullets straight up in the air. A "falling" bullet (as in falling from a rest) does not have a high enough terminal velocity to do more than give you a nice lump. But a bullet fired on an arc that never has a chance to stop in air? You could ask the Kuwaitis about that one. But that's my point about these guys. They also failed to take the Coriolis effect into consideration when conducting the experiment so they had a hell of a time finding the bullets once they landed. They really not all that equipped to be working with guns. They're not scientists. They're personalities.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2011, 12:47:42 PM » |
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They're decisions concerning what is possible and what is not are not always right. They did two episodes trying to prove/disprove the possibility of a "robin hood", one arrow splitting another and decided both times it's not possible. But, I have two sets of "robin hooded" carbon arrows here at the house.
That being said, I'd love to have their jobs and we have to remember, their main job is to get good enough ratings to stay on the air. Their firearms experiments have all been pretty well done in my opinion. They've made some mistakes as we all have. But........
I don't think any of main characters have woke up stupid a day in their lives.
Remember the one where they tried to prove that you couldn't be killed by a falling bullet? Their conclusion was that you could not. But you most certainly can, the problem with the experiment was that they fired the bullets straight up in the air. A "falling" bullet (as in falling from a rest) does not have a high enough terminal velocity to do more than give you a nice lump. But a bullet fired on an arc that never has a chance to stop in air? You could ask the Kuwaitis about that one. But that's my point about these guys. They also failed to take the Coriolis effect into consideration when conducting the experiment so they had a hell of a time finding the bullets once they landed. They really not all that equipped to be working with guns. They're not scientists. They're personalities. Anvil... You must not of watched the full episode because at the end of that experiment that was exactly their conclusion a bullet fired in a arc could definitely be fatal but a bullet fired exactly straight up would not! http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2011, 12:56:25 PM » |
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They're decisions concerning what is possible and what is not are not always right. They did two episodes trying to prove/disprove the possibility of a "robin hood", one arrow splitting another and decided both times it's not possible. But, I have two sets of "robin hooded" carbon arrows here at the house.
That being said, I'd love to have their jobs and we have to remember, their main job is to get good enough ratings to stay on the air. Their firearms experiments have all been pretty well done in my opinion. They've made some mistakes as we all have. But........
I don't think any of main characters have woke up stupid a day in their lives.
Remember the one where they tried to prove that you couldn't be killed by a falling bullet? Their conclusion was that you could not. But you most certainly can, the problem with the experiment was that they fired the bullets straight up in the air. A "falling" bullet (as in falling from a rest) does not have a high enough terminal velocity to do more than give you a nice lump. But a bullet fired on an arc that never has a chance to stop in air? You could ask the Kuwaitis about that one. But that's my point about these guys. They also failed to take the Coriolis effect into consideration when conducting the experiment so they had a hell of a time finding the bullets once they landed. They really not all that equipped to be working with guns. They're not scientists. They're personalities. Anvil... You must not of watched the full episode because at the end of that experiment that was exactly their conclusion a bullet fired in a arc could definitely be fatal but a bullet fired exactly straight up would not! Oh no, I watched it. But it was not "their conclusion". If you can find the episode online then watch it because they originally draw the conclusion that it's a myth, but they are corrected by someone else and they amend their conclusion.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2011, 02:05:39 PM » |
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They're decisions concerning what is possible and what is not are not always right. They did two episodes trying to prove/disprove the possibility of a "robin hood", one arrow splitting another and decided both times it's not possible. But, I have two sets of "robin hooded" carbon arrows here at the house.
That being said, I'd love to have their jobs and we have to remember, their main job is to get good enough ratings to stay on the air. Their firearms experiments have all been pretty well done in my opinion. They've made some mistakes as we all have. But........
I don't think any of main characters have woke up stupid a day in their lives.
Remember the one where they tried to prove that you couldn't be killed by a falling bullet? Their conclusion was that you could not. But you most certainly can, the problem with the experiment was that they fired the bullets straight up in the air. A "falling" bullet (as in falling from a rest) does not have a high enough terminal velocity to do more than give you a nice lump. But a bullet fired on an arc that never has a chance to stop in air? You could ask the Kuwaitis about that one. But that's my point about these guys. They also failed to take the Coriolis effect into consideration when conducting the experiment so they had a hell of a time finding the bullets once they landed. They really not all that equipped to be working with guns. They're not scientists. They're personalities. Your right. I forgot about that episode. I think if they had tried it with a 500 or 750 grain or heavier bullet they might have had a different conclusion even firing them straight up.
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2011, 03:30:46 PM » |
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They're decisions concerning what is possible and what is not are not always right. They did two episodes trying to prove/disprove the possibility of a "robin hood", one arrow splitting another and decided both times it's not possible. But, I have two sets of "robin hooded" carbon arrows here at the house.
That being said, I'd love to have their jobs and we have to remember, their main job is to get good enough ratings to stay on the air. Their firearms experiments have all been pretty well done in my opinion. They've made some mistakes as we all have. But........
I don't think any of main characters have woke up stupid a day in their lives.
Remember the one where they tried to prove that you couldn't be killed by a falling bullet? Their conclusion was that you could not. But you most certainly can, the problem with the experiment was that they fired the bullets straight up in the air. A "falling" bullet (as in falling from a rest) does not have a high enough terminal velocity to do more than give you a nice lump. But a bullet fired on an arc that never has a chance to stop in air? You could ask the Kuwaitis about that one. But that's my point about these guys. They also failed to take the Coriolis effect into consideration when conducting the experiment so they had a hell of a time finding the bullets once they landed. They really not all that equipped to be working with guns. They're not scientists. They're personalities. Your right. I forgot about that episode. I think if they had tried it with a 500 or 750 grain or heavier bullet they might have had a different conclusion even firing them straight up. Or an anvil! 
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2011, 03:58:43 AM » |
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[/quote] Or an anvil!  [/quote] LOL.... 
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2011, 04:24:28 AM » |
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Gave me much more respect and understanding what the guys on ships in the old days had to contend with when under attack with cannons. I love the scene when lord Becket gets whats comming to him. I guess when the deck starts to come apart it could happen that way.
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Did somebody say "anvils"?
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