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Fudd
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« on: December 12, 2011, 05:34:31 PM »

Another real good reason to wear protective gear.

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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2011, 05:38:16 PM »

Somewhere on here is the thread with the whole sequence of photos of that wreck... Hope they wern't too banged up.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 06:07:05 PM »

Oh CRAP that hurt me just sitting in my recliner at home.I feel bad for the woman passenger with her had out to break the fall .
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 06:11:00 PM »

Sorry, I didn't mean to post a re-run.  In my defense, I did search every discription of the picture that I could think of.

If you've already seen it before, just let it be a reminder to DRIVE SAFELY, and don't push your or your bikes capabilities.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 06:23:34 PM »

And don't carry a back-seater in a tank top with no gloves, whether a loved one or not.

I'd ride with no shirt before I rode with no gloves.  You WILL put your hands out in a fall.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 06:51:01 PM »

That arms gonna be broke in about 2 /1000ths of a second. Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2011, 07:25:02 PM »

Ah-ha! Wanted to exercise my search-fu... Here's the thread with the pictures right before and after that one:

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,32843.0.html

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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2011, 07:31:53 PM »

Another real good reason to wear protective gear.





I see "flames" and I see near death, yet that is a motorcycle tire. How can this be?
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2011, 09:25:18 PM »

Yikes thats gonna leave a mark!!  My guess is lack of cornering clearance.  Hope they are OK.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2011, 09:31:19 PM »

My guess is lack of cornering clearance.

Nope, I guarantee you that was caused by pilot error.  (lack of riding ability)
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 02:31:45 AM »

Sorry, I didn't mean to post a re-run.  In my defense, I did search every discription of the picture that I could think of.

If you've already seen it before, just let it be a reminder to DRIVE SAFELY, and don't push your or your bikes capabilities.

It's all good.  Smiley I wasn't hackin on ya. I was just thinking you might want to see the whole "get off" from start to finish.
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2011, 04:07:43 AM »

I'd ride with no shirt before I rode with no gloves.  You WILL put your hands out in a fall.

+1  Yes Sir.  Gloves...

I preached that to Squealy when he started riding.  It was about a week before he had a real slow laydown in the country.  Ruined his gloves in that fall, but his palms were just fine.  He's been a believer ever since.

You can work with some minor road rash on your arms or back... if your hands are rashed... you're crippled till they heal.

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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 05:21:12 AM »

"Don't worry dear, you steer, I'll keep us from falling."

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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 08:53:30 AM »

And don't carry a back-seater in a tank top with no gloves, whether a loved one or not.

I'd ride with no shirt before I rode with no gloves.  You WILL put your hands out in a fall.
PLUS me on this. Gloves go on before the bike moves. Wink
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2011, 09:01:38 AM »

And don't carry a back-seater in a tank top with no gloves, whether a loved one or not.

I'd ride with no shirt before I rode with no gloves.  You WILL put your hands out in a fall.
PLUS me on this. Gloves go on before the bike moves. Wink

I remember a specific decision not to wear gloves, about 40 or so years ago, that
ended with me doing summersaults along side my 125... gloves was the only
bit of normal riding gear I left behind, boy were my hands skinned up...

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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2011, 10:23:05 AM »

Yeah, gloves are a piece of gear that I will not ride without as well.
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2011, 07:14:55 AM »

Another real good reason to wear protective gear.





I see "flames" and I see near death, yet that is a motorcycle tire. How can this be?


You can see a complete loss of control.  With the back wheel raised, and on the frame/bags, turning the wheel hard right to regain the single track would have been the only option... and not necessarily successful... but the wheel is turned to the left... guaranteed to lay the bike over... and caused, I think, by the guys attempt to hang onto the bike and not fall off.
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2011, 04:42:53 PM »

You can see a complete loss of control.  With the back wheel raised, and on the frame/bags, turning the wheel hard right to regain the single track would have been the only option... and not necessarily successful... but the wheel is turned to the left... guaranteed to lay the bike over... and caused, I think, by the guys attempt to hang onto the bike and not fall off.

How would turning the wheel hard right help?  He's sliding left.  Pointing the wheel hard right would only cause a high side when (if) it grabbed any pavement at all.  Pointing it hard left allows the possibility (however slim) of recovering.
That being said, I think their only chance of not having a REAL bad day is just riding that low side down.  Still a bad day, but not as bad as a high side.

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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2011, 05:05:47 AM »

I agree Mark, but just from the experience of the few small falls and the one bad fall I've taken in my 50 yrs of riding, when this starts happening you have no control of the motorcycle and you don't have time enough to think on how to react.  Once the bike starts out of control your body gets out of sorts and yo no longer have control of the motorcycle to be able to make it do anything.  When I had my bad fall in 1999 on a Valk while in the hospital several of my friends that came to the hospital kept asking me "Why didn't you do this"   "Why didn't you do that" .........I just told them "You don't understand.......I was riding......then I was sliding down the highway."   
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2011, 05:11:54 AM »

My guess is lack of cornering clearance.

Nope, I guarantee you that was caused by pilot error.  (lack of riding ability)
I could not agree more Jess .
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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2011, 08:15:43 AM »

I agree Mark, but just from the experience of the few small falls and the one bad fall I've taken in my 50 yrs of riding, when this starts happening you have no control of the motorcycle and you don't have time enough to think on how to react.  Once the bike starts out of control your body gets out of sorts and yo no longer have control of the motorcycle to be able to make it do anything.  When I had my bad fall in 1999 on a Valk while in the hospital several of my friends that came to the hospital kept asking me "Why didn't you do this"   "Why didn't you do that" .........I just told them "You don't understand.......I was riding......then I was sliding down the highway."   

Man you said it. I got my rear end tagged a couple years ago by a tractor deciding to make a left into a field as I was passing it. Clipped me just enough to slide the back end out from under.
My daughter was on the back and she slides of as soon as the bike low sided and she walks away with hardly a scratch. (This at 50+mph) I hang with the bike then it decides to high side and launch me into orbit, landing at the bottom of a deep ditch.

I can see the farmer start his turn, I can feel the clip on the back side, the bike going down, then sliding down the road, then falling out of the sky and hitting the ground.

Each of those was like flipping through TV channels. It just happens that fast. No time to process or think about it. I didn't even feel the bike high side. I was sliding on the road with the bike and then the bike is gone and I'm falling out of orbit absolutely confused.

Got busted up some. I say that it was as bad as it could be without being really bad. Busted ribs and collarbone and bruising the likes I've never had.

But man, when it happens, it happens so fast.
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2011, 01:07:57 PM »

I agree Mark, but just from the experience of the few small falls and the one bad fall I've taken in my 50 yrs of riding, when this starts happening you have no control of the motorcycle and you don't have time enough to think on how to react.  Once the bike starts out of control your body gets out of sorts and yo no longer have control of the motorcycle to be able to make it do anything.  When I had my bad fall in 1999 on a Valk while in the hospital several of my friends that came to the hospital kept asking me "Why didn't you do this"   "Why didn't you do that" .........I just told them "You don't understand.......I was riding......then I was sliding down the highway."   

Concur.  Very little time, very little control.  As has been said before, he appears to be going pretty slow, so maybe he had more time than is usual, but still hardly enough to think.
When I nearly went down a year ago, I DID have time to think, and managed to save it.  I don't know whether the bars turned full right in these pictures was a result of him trying anything, or just where they went without any conscious input.  Doesn't matter, I guess, as they went down anyway.

Mark
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2011, 02:03:54 PM »

When the rear tire leaves the asphalt, the fat lady sings.
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2011, 02:30:55 PM »

They are "Flatlanders" Roll Eyes (Florida tag)
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2011, 02:36:52 PM »

When the rear tire leaves the asphalt, the fat lady sings.


I don't know if they do it today, but bike cops in training used to practice laying a bike over on the guards (HD police electra glides) and riding it back up.  It's not that hard to do, but it does add some rash to the bike.   I wouldn't do it.... unless I was on RR tracks with the train coming. 
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