Daniel Meyer
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« on: December 22, 2011, 01:40:53 PM » |
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 02:27:12 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 02:41:43 PM » |
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No... you just didn't do that.  Truth hurts...   ???  |
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2011, 02:57:01 PM » |
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I know there's some technology in that thing we don't want to share, BUT....I can't help but wonder if something else might just be cooking. Wouldn't be the first time the U.S. has allowed something to be "discovered" seemingly by accident. Just sorta musing out loud here.
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2011, 03:05:30 PM » |
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The opportunity to destroy it with an air strike was squandered in favor of asking for it back nicely.  "Maybe they'll send it back in pieces after they've gotten all the intelligence out of it they can." |
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 03:07:54 PM » |
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I know there's some technology in that thing we don't want to share, BUT....I can't help but wonder if something else might just be cooking. Wouldn't be the first time the U.S. has allowed something to be "discovered" seemingly by accident. Just sorta musing out loud here.
My thoughts too. 'cause...even an entry level engineer would give the guy a button marked "fragit" for when they lost one. I'd guess it's a decoy. That'll keep Iran's technology arm (all two engineers) busy for a while. |
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 03:14:06 PM » |
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Maybe they put a fake nuke on it.... That would give all of those countries we fly them over something to think about....  Dave |
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2011, 04:03:49 PM » |
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I know there's some technology in that thing we don't want to share, BUT....I can't help but wonder if something else might just be cooking. Wouldn't be the first time the U.S. has allowed something to be "discovered" seemingly by accident. Just sorta musing out loud here.
That's the first thing that went through my mind. May be just wishful thinking, but I have a hard time believing that thing wouldn't have destroyed itself once something went wrong. I'd build in a dead-man switch used on every launch. If I didn't enter a specific code within a certain time, it's blow up. |
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2011, 04:10:36 PM » |
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I like the Trojan horse idea. Unfortunately it's too creative an idea for high-level military or intelligence to have come up with.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2011, 05:38:31 PM » |
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I like the Trojan horse idea. Unfortunately it's too creative an idea for high-level military or intelligence to have come up with.
Not really. One of the problems Sadaam(sp?) ran into was somewhat of a Trojan Horse. Seems they had bought a number of printers, just ordinary printers like all of us use. After finding out about the shipment, before releasing them someone in our gov't. set them up with a virus in their internal software that had a davastating effect on their radar tracking and ID capabilities prior to our attack. I forget which attack was involved but I think it was the one initiated by GW. |
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2011, 06:26:17 PM » |
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2011, 06:38:36 PM » |
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I was reading somewhere that according to an unnamed Iranian scientist (take that for what its worth), they brought it down and said it really wasn't that difficult. They got one a couple of years ago and have been doing their homework since then. According to the scientist, its too difficult to try to override the command signals because they are encrypted however its not too difficult to jam the command signals upon which the drone reverts to hard-coded commands to return to base. At that point all you have to do is override the GPS signals (which can be done with a stronger local signal as GPS signals are generally weak) and feed it the wrong coordinates to make it think its landing at its home base, when in fact you've given it coordinates to land where you wanted it to.
The weakness of US drones have been discussed in various news stories for a couple of years now - I'm surprised it took them this long to down one if indeed that's what happened.
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2011, 08:30:04 PM » |
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I know there's some technology in that thing we don't want to share, BUT....I can't help but wonder if something else might just be cooking. Wouldn't be the first time the U.S. has allowed something to be "discovered" seemingly by accident. Just sorta musing out loud here.
My thoughts too. 'cause...even an entry level engineer would give the guy a button marked "fragit" for when they lost one. I'd guess it's a decoy. That'll keep Iran's technology arm (all two engineers) busy for a while. both of them? full time? really? all part of our machiavellian machinations, I hope we are thinking that far ahead  |
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2011, 06:40:23 AM » |
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I think its a major failure of OUR foreign policy that Iran still has a military or a nuclear research facility at all. What are we thinking
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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2011, 12:52:30 PM » |
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I like the Trojan horse idea. Unfortunately it's too creative an idea for high-level military or intelligence to have come up with.
Not really. One of the problems Sadaam(sp?) ran into was somewhat of a Trojan Horse. Seems they had bought a number of printers, just ordinary printers like all of us use. After finding out about the shipment, before releasing them someone in our gov't. set them up with a virus in their internal software that had a davastating effect on their radar tracking and ID capabilities prior to our attack. I forget which attack was involved but I think it was the one initiated by GW. You got any proof of that? Firmware doesn't really work that way so I'm suspect. |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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