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« on: January 04, 2012, 05:11:10 PM »

I mean... here we have Herman Cain... tells us that God told him to run... knowing full well that scandal was about to embrace him.  Was God being a jokester here?  Did Herman think that God was going to make his sexual harassment issues just up and go away?
 
Then again, how about Michelle... God told her to run as well... that's what she said.  God must be a funny guy/gal/it?  Telling the two of these folks to go for it... and poor ole Michelle barely gets 6 percent of the vote.  How could God do this to her?  How come God didn't help her out here... after all, told her to run.
 
And then, of course, we've got good ole Rick Perry... God told him to run too... I'm beginning to question God's ability to pick viable candidates, but that's another story. Ricky Ticky makes barely 10 percent.
 
God seems to be betting on the wrong horses.  It's a MORMON that got top draw.  Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 05:20:34 PM »

Did God tell you to troll the VRCC?
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2012, 05:23:12 PM »

Did God tell you to troll the VRCC?

Actually, no.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2012, 05:37:30 PM »

S E always has all the right answers, to the wrong questions, maybe he should run !
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 05:38:48 PM »

I am positive God didn't tell Michael Scinto to commit suicide, though.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2012, 05:43:17 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 05:49:13 PM »

I am positive God didn't tell Michael Scinto to commit suicide, though.


You're right on the money.  Unless of course, you think God tells people that they should commit suicide.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2012, 06:07:28 PM »

"The ManKind Project has a set of core values: integrity, respect, generosity, accountability, multicultural awareness, and compassion."

Maybe you need some refresher training.

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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2012, 06:15:56 PM »

"The ManKind Project has a set of core values: integrity, respect, generosity, accountability, multicultural awareness, and compassion."

Maybe you need some refresher training.



Explain.  I put up a post to make people think... about how God's name is used by those only for their own personal aggrandizement.  It is a fundamental reason why these people cannot and will not ever win... besides apparently hearing voices, they exhibit the kind of hubris only those chosen by God can exhibit.  And I am in violation of what?
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2012, 06:32:07 PM »

You put up a post to make people think?  You put up a troll to ridicule God and people who believe in God.  Next thing you're going to say is that God made you do it... uglystupid2

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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2012, 06:41:05 PM »

I mean... here we have Herman Cain... tells us that God told him to run... knowing full well that scandal was about to embrace him.  Was God being a jokester here?  Did Herman think that God was going to make his sexual harassment issues just up and go away?
 
Then again, how about Michelle... God told her to run as well... that's what she said.  God must be a funny guy/gal/it?  Telling the two of these folks to go for it... and poor ole Michelle barely gets 6 percent of the vote.  How could God do this to her?  How come God didn't help her out here... after all, told her to run.
 
And then, of course, we've got good ole Rick Perry... God told him to run too... I'm beginning to question God's ability to pick viable candidates, but that's another story. Ricky Ticky makes barely 10 percent.
 
God seems to be betting on the wrong horses.  It's a MORMON that got top draw.  Cheesy

I am relieved you are keeping an eye on God and hope He draws on your infinite wisdom.
I'll bet he appreciates the critique.

On the other hand, perhaps there are people who will be instrumental in the on going political process that would only have gotten involved if a Bachman, Perry, or Cain ran for the office. Perhaps their running set the stage for greater things to come. Perhaps God's plan is even beyond the scope of your omnipotence as hard as that maybe to believe.

 

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2012, 06:58:42 PM »

You put up a post to make people think?  You put up a troll to ridicule God and people who believe in God.  Next thing you're going to say is that God made you do it... uglystupid2

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+1   cooldude  But I'd bet that the devil made him do it....or maybe the democrats. 

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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2012, 07:15:18 PM »

"The ManKind Project has a set of core values: integrity, respect, generosity, accountability, multicultural awareness, and compassion."

Maybe you need some refresher training.



Explain.  I put up a post to make people think... about how God's name is used by those only for their own personal aggrandizement.  It is a fundamental reason why these people cannot and will not ever win... besides apparently hearing voices, they exhibit the kind of hubris only those chosen by God can exhibit.  And I am in violation of what?
Why do you feel YOU are needed to make "us" think? That's so condescending to the members of the board that I truly don't understand why you're even here.
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2012, 07:23:22 PM »

Hey Strong Eagle, next time you use the word hubris to describe someone else, take a good long look in the mirror.  

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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2012, 07:28:36 PM »

Hey Strong Eagle douche bag, next time you use the word hubris to describe someone else, take a good long look in the mirror. 

You are now the second member to be placed on my Ignore List. 

Hey... the best you can do is call me a 'douche bag'?  Sign of a small mind, mate.  But you won't be reading this.  Too bad you didn't have anything to say in terms of commentary. 
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2012, 07:30:59 PM »

"The ManKind Project has a set of core values: integrity, respect, generosity, accountability, multicultural awareness, and compassion."

Maybe you need some refresher training.



Explain.  I put up a post to make people think... about how God's name is used by those only for their own personal aggrandizement.  It is a fundamental reason why these people cannot and will not ever win... besides apparently hearing voices, they exhibit the kind of hubris only those chosen by God can exhibit.  And I am in violation of what?
Why do you feel YOU are needed to make "us" think? That's so condescending to the members of the board that I truly don't understand why you're even here.

Click on by if you don't like the subject matter... you really need to look up the work 'condescension' and start using it properly.  But really... click on by.
 
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2012, 07:33:50 PM »

I mean... here we have Herman Cain... tells us that God told him to run... knowing full well that scandal was about to embrace him.  Was God being a jokester here?  Did Herman think that God was going to make his sexual harassment issues just up and go away?
 
Then again, how about Michelle... God told her to run as well... that's what she said.  God must be a funny guy/gal/it?  Telling the two of these folks to go for it... and poor ole Michelle barely gets 6 percent of the vote.  How could God do this to her?  How come God didn't help her out here... after all, told her to run.
 
And then, of course, we've got good ole Rick Perry... God told him to run too... I'm beginning to question God's ability to pick viable candidates, but that's another story. Ricky Ticky makes barely 10 percent.
 
God seems to be betting on the wrong horses.  It's a MORMON that got top draw.  Cheesy

I am relieved you are keeping an eye on God and hope He draws on your infinite wisdom.
I'll bet he appreciates the critique.

On the other hand, perhaps there are people who will be instrumental in the on going political process that would only have gotten involved if a Bachman, Perry, or Cain ran for the office. Perhaps their running set the stage for greater things to come. Perhaps God's plan is even beyond the scope of your omnipotence as hard as that maybe to believe.

 



I just wanna know why each of these people heard God tell them to run, especially with the baggage they carry.  Maybe someone who knows God better than I can tell me why God contacted Michelle, or Rick, or Herman... and not me... or any other of goodly people... to run for President.  I mean, how come God apparently didn't contact John Huntsman?  He's just doing it because he wants to do it?
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2012, 07:40:29 PM »

And I really just want to know why you only come here to fling poop. People like you are why I gave up being a sponsor here and seldom stop in any more. Congratulations! Most of the time you actually have made me click on by. When you finally are speaking to an empty room will you simply spoil another one or sit in silence with a smile?
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2012, 07:52:24 PM »

Hey ¿spoom,

Here you go: Click on Profile, click on Personal Message Options, bingo, there's the Ignorelist box.  Follow the simple instructions. 

Happy New Year!
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2012, 05:55:13 AM »

He's nothing but a Bill Maher wanna be. Just a frustrated Canadian metro sexual in exile.
I bet there's a good reason he lives in Singapore.

My guess is he's a child molester on the run !!!!!

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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2012, 07:35:49 AM »

Seems like every third thread here is a cheap shot at Obama. Where is all of the agnst on those threads? SE made a valid observation. No more of a troll than those constantly baiting non-right wingers.
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2012, 07:38:29 AM »

"The ManKind Project has a set of core values: integrity, respect, generosity, accountability, multicultural awareness, and compassion."

Maybe you need some refresher training.



Explain.  I put up a post to make people think... about how God's name is used by those only for their own personal aggrandizement.  It is a fundamental reason why these people cannot and will not ever win... besides apparently hearing voices, they exhibit the kind of hubris only those chosen by God can exhibit.  And I am in violation of what?


That's a load of crap.

You know full well that your intention was to stir the proverbial pot.

I considered a response to your OP but realized that God doesn't need me to defend him.

So ridicule God if you choose, you are the one that will have to answer for your actions when you stand before his Throne.

And make no mistake about it there will come a day when you will stand before the Throne of Judgement.

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Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.

The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. ” (Revelation 20:11-15 NKJV)

I realize that you are not a "Believer" and as such these words probably mean nothing to you. Just know that it isn't "Too Late" to accept Christ as your Savior and have YOUR name written in the Book of Life.

   
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2012, 07:39:18 AM »

Hey ¿spoom,

Here you go: Click on Profile, click on Personal Message Options, bingo, there's the Ignorelist box.  Follow the simple instructions. 

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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2012, 08:29:19 AM »

I realize that you are not a "Believer" and as such these words probably mean nothing to you. Just know that it isn't "Too Late" to accept Christ as your Savior and have YOUR name written in the Book of Life.
   

You realized that, did you? You also "realized" that I'm a terrorist sympathizer for word-playing with some Bush-isms. You, sir, are a realizer-extraordinaire.

SE knows full well that his post would bring the believers out in mass (no pun). Yet if you put your realizing on hold, you'll see that it actually has nothing to do with God and everything to do with mealy-mouthed politicians who will say anything, pose as anything, just to appeal to a certain audience. Even W claimed 'direct consultation' with the Almighty. But man oh man it can be so tedious trying to explain....

From the religious angle, Moonshot makes a good point. However, the OP's point is not about religion but about gullible voting.
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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2012, 08:40:43 AM »

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Seems like every third thread here is a cheap shot at Obama. Where is all of the agnst on those threads? SE made a valid observation. No more of a troll than those constantly baiting non-right wingers.

barry is an unabashed Marxist who, as recently as yesterday, flaunted the Constitution with his recess appointments even though Congress is not recessed.  (neither party has a lock on acting outside the constraints of the Constitution, so that remark is not partisan)  I guess the courts will have to sort out 100+ years of history.  Maybe most of the people here don't like barry and that explains why there is little angst.

Whether mr singapore make a valid observation is up for individual consideration.  What appears to most to be his SOP is the manner in which he "tries to make people think".  It usually involves lobbing grenades.  

I completely endorse the fact that Freedom of Speech means that each of us will, at times, be offended by what we hear.  But when a certain source of noise is almost always offensive in its delivery, if not its content, it's nice to be able to filter it out.
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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2012, 09:55:45 AM »

I'll click on by, it's ok to talk to God, as long as he doesn't talk back??  it's all in the interpretation.

I'l make no cheap shots at Obama, well, maybe in jest. however it is soooo easy to poke holes in nearly every stance he made as a candidate, now as pres he finds it easy to ignore what he said back when
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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2012, 10:03:18 AM »

Seems like every third thread here is a cheap shot at Obama. Where is all of the agnst on those threads? SE made a valid observation. No more of a troll than those constantly baiting non-right wingers.

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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2012, 10:57:42 AM »

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I just wanna know why each of these people heard God tell them to run, especially with the baggage they carry.  Maybe someone who knows God better than I can tell me why God contacted Michelle, or Rick, or Herman... and not me... or any other of goodly people... to run for President.  I mean, how come God apparently didn't contact John Huntsman?  He's just doing it because he wants to do it?
How do we know God talked to them? We only have their word on it. But I guess ALL politicians
ALWAYS tell the truth, don't they? NOBODY has ever said "God told me to" to justify their actions,
have they? I don't recall any of them saying God told them they would BE president..only that
He told them to join the race. Pick a candidate...ANY one....ANY party...ANY office...and you'll
find baggage of one kind or another. YMMV.
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2012, 12:55:36 PM »

I realize that you are not a "Believer" and as such these words probably mean nothing to you. Just know that it isn't "Too Late" to accept Christ as your Savior and have YOUR name written in the Book of Life.
   

You realized that, did you? You also "realized" that I'm a terrorist sympathizer for word-playing with some Bush-isms. You, sir, are a realizer-extraordinaire.
SE knows full well that his post would bring the believers out in mass (no pun). Yet if you put your realizing on hold, you'll see that it actually has nothing to do with God and everything to do with mealy-mouthed politicians who will say anything, pose as anything, just to appeal to a certain audience. Even W claimed 'direct consultation' with the Almighty. But man oh man it can be so tedious trying to explain....

From the religious angle, Moonshot makes a good point. However, the OP's point is not about religion but about gullible voting.


Just EXACTLY how did I "Pull your chain" ?

I NEVER referenced ANYTHING that you posted, so I'm not sure why you felt compelled to launch an offensive.
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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2012, 02:28:21 PM »

I guess I'm in the minority on this one.  I like the post.

I think that the candidates just misunderstood what they were told.  They were told they should run.  They interpreted this as "run for President".  He may have  meant "Run away", "run for cover" or "Run, Forrest, run".  Each person interprets their relationship with God in their own way.
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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2012, 02:36:54 PM »

I guess I'm in the minority on this one.  I like the post.

I think that the candidates just misunderstood what they were told.  They were told they should run.  They interpreted this as "run for President".  He may have  meant "Run away", "run for cover" or "Run, Forrest, run".  Each person interprets their relationship with God in their own way.

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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2012, 02:38:06 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2012, 02:53:10 PM »

Remember when W was in office? His bashing posts were about the same as Barry's...

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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2012, 03:13:29 PM »

I guess I'm in the minority on this one.  I like the post.

I think that the candidates just misunderstood what they were told.  They were told they should run.  They interpreted this as "run for President".  He may have  meant "Run away", "run for cover" or "Run, Forrest, run".  Each person interprets their relationship with God in their own way.
Rainmaker, I thought you were going to make a very wise observation.....but you went the other way.  Yes I believe each candidate that claimed they felt led of God to run was led of God to run.  When you are in the running for president you go lots of places and come in contact with lots of people. 

God is in the people business

So somone each of those candidates may have come in contact with may have been the reason they were in the running.  Being elected...thats a whole nuther thing

Same with Tbow the quarterback.  Just because hes a Christian and he prays doesnt mean if his team loses that means God let him down.  Ive heard him talk, he is sincere.......Im sure he prayes for safety of the players and whatever Gods will for them that day is........

We shouldnt measure God's faithfulness or motives by our wishes or intentions.  Gods ways are not our ways.

Make fun all you want.....God can take it
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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2012, 03:28:40 PM »

I guess I'm in the minority on this one.  I like the post.

I think that the candidates just misunderstood what they were told.  They were told they should run.  They interpreted this as "run for President".  He may have  meant "Run away", "run for cover" or "Run, Forrest, run".  Each person interprets their relationship with God in their own way.
Rainmaker, I thought you were going to make a very wise observation.....but you went the other way.  Yes I believe each candidate that claimed they felt led of God to run was led of God to run.  When you are in the running for president you go lots of places and come in contact with lots of people. 

God is in the people business

So somone each of those candidates may have come in contact with may have been the reason they were in the running.  Being elected...thats a whole nuther thing

Same with Tbow the quarterback.  Just because hes a Christian and he prays doesnt mean if his team loses that means God let him down.  Ive heard him talk, he is sincere.......Im sure he prayes for safety of the players and whatever Gods will for them that day is........

We shouldnt measure God's faithfulness or motives by our wishes or intentions.  Gods ways are not our ways.

Make fun all you want.....God can take it

God's name is used to justify a lot of things.  See Robert Tilton for an example.

You can ask God for anything.  Just that sometimes the answer is "no".

Not trying to impart wisdom nor theological dogma - simply think that SE's post was not bad and there seems to be a lot of piling on just because SE posted it.
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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2012, 03:49:05 PM »

 I saw this post more about flaunting faith in God to gain political points.
 This is what the bible says about a similar situation.

Matthew 6:5-6: "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men....when thou prayest, enter into thy closet and when thou has shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret...."

 God, and your relationship with him has no place in politics.
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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2012, 03:56:37 PM »

Not trying to impart wisdom nor theological dogma - simply think that SE's post was not bad and there seems to be a lot of piling on just because SE posted it.


I'll admit in hindsight, if just about anyone else had started this thread I would have also considered it a valid, even interesting point of conversation, but coming from the person it came from, yeah, I immediately went to assuming it was a troll post...


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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2012, 04:04:49 PM »

I guess I'm in the minority on this one.  I like the post.

I think that the candidates just misunderstood what they were told.  They were told they should run.  They interpreted this as "run for President".  He may have  meant "Run away", "run for cover" or "Run, Forrest, run".  Each person interprets their relationship with God in their own way.
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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2012, 04:24:45 PM »

I dont understand if Eagle is so curious about what God tells people why doesn't he ask God what He said himself  uglystupid2
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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2012, 05:01:55 PM »

I think Eagle was pretty clearly pointing out that a minimum of two of those people were claiming God's authority who didn't have it. (I would calculate all three, but that's me not a message from God.) And yes they were claiming God's authority. Let's not get mealy-mouthed about what that means. They said God wanted them in the White house, and collected money on that basis. (And yes, they did say, intimate, suggest, that. I'm not going to get into a quoting debate. Anybody trying to re-interpret all of those God references as something else is being disingenuous.)
If they did not receive that command from God, they were committing blasphemy. That is a far more egregious sin than the simple use of foul language western religion has turned it into. That should be a matter of great concern for those wanting to follow God. Tragically, I don't see it from the religious right.
What I do hear from the far right is references to Psalm 109:8.
  May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.
Unless we're to take this completely out of context, we're also stuck with the following verse, Psalm 109:9.
  May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.
Sorry. I don't believe that message comes from God as applying to The President of the United States of America.
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