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I am an old guy with a new problem. I have a 97 Valk and I have had it about 12 yrs. It has approx. 51,000 miles on it and in really good shape and I want to keep it in good working order if I can. I enjoy riding it but when I realized how old it is and the fact that I have never changed the timing belt I panicked a little. I am going to change it myself, which will be a challenge, and I was looking under the bike and I am wandering if it is ok to put my motorcycle lift directly on the pan. Will the pan support the weight of the bike ok or is the lift supposed to contact some other part of the frame. Any suggestions witll be welcomed. Thanks in advance for your help.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2012, 02:37:59 PM » |
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I am an old guy with a new problem. I have a 97 Valk and I have had it about 12 yrs. It has approx. 51,000 miles on it and in really good shape and I want to keep it in good working order if I can. I enjoy riding it but when I realized how old it is and the fact that I have never changed the timing belt I panicked a little. I am going to change it myself, which will be a challenge, and I was looking under the bike and I am wandering if it is ok to put my motorcycle lift directly on the pan. Will the pan support the weight of the bike ok or is the lift supposed to contact some other part of the frame. Any suggestions witll be welcomed. Thanks in advance for your help.
You will need some short pieces of 4x4 or 2x4 on the left side of the casing where it is flush. Put your MC jack on the right side centered-like any bike and start lifting slowly. A set of extra hands would be good.  |
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 02:54:15 PM » |
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Hey eb,
Don't panic. Lots of us have changed our belts recently (mainly because of age instead of miles) and no one that I can remember has described having narrowly averted disaster. Mine were stiffer than the new ones I bought for about $18.00 each from Amazon, but were completely useable. The Service Manual says to Inspect them at 100,000 miles. Change them if you want to - I did - but relax. You're more than likely just fine.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 03:12:52 PM » |
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Two words of encouragement:
You don't need to replace your timing belts.
If you decide to do so you don't need to put the bike on a lift.
Well, three. Just south of Tyler you're near a great bunch of Valkyrie riders who hold regular wrench parties. Make contact with the Texas VRCC, most specifically the DFW group.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 05:05:33 PM » |
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I've been putting off the timing belt change for a while. I just didn't want to fool with it. My bike has more than 10 years and 100,000 miles so I decided it was time. The change went smoothly and was easier than I expected. I agree with Willow that it didn't need to be done. The original belt has some wear but not enough to warrant changing. I did it for the peace of mind that it had been done and that I was no longer putting it off. Now I can forget about it.
Good luck. Take it one step at a time.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 05:06:42 PM » |
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I am an old guy with a new problem. By the way, welcome aboard the board. |
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 05:47:57 PM » |
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100,000 miles it calls for an inspection.
Goldwings use the same timing device and they don't sweat a belt problem.
SO really why should you.
I don't think even if it broke will it even bend any valves.
That last one I don't know about, but I don't think it would bend any even if it broke a belt.
Inspect for cracks, tears, peices missing, or just general appearance of the inside of the timing case.
If it looks clean I would say your belt is fine with that few miles you have on her.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 05:55:05 PM » |
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100,000 miles it calls for an inspection.
Goldwings use the same timing device and they don't sweat a belt problem.
SO really why should you.
I don't think even if it broke will it even bend any valves.
That last one I don't know about, but I don't think it would bend any even if it broke a belt.
Inspect for cracks, tears, peices missing, or just general appearance of the inside of the timing case.
If it looks clean I would say your belt is fine with that few miles you have on her.
Bends the crap out of 'em in short order ! I have seen belts that look good (barely worn) break, and I have seen belts hanging on by threads that never got out of time even when loose enough they made slapping noises. The Valk is an interference motor (valves will hit pistons) and belts are cheap. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 06:09:56 PM » |
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I really appreciate the feed back. I have a renewed intrest my bike and want to make sure it is taken care of. I think I will go ahead and get into it and see what happens. I bought a Clymer shop manual and have read it and it sounds like it can be done without too much trouble. If anyone knows a website where I can buy the belts I would love to know. GOOD CLUB......GOOD BIKE Thanks again Elliott
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 06:17:12 PM » |
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You have done it now Roadkill. A belt shortage is about to take over in reality.
Bent valves and all. Better change the belt then. They won't be a belt left between here and Tim Buck Too.
Was not sure about the interferance thing and said so.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 06:24:41 PM » |
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You have done it now Roadkill. A belt shortage is about to take over in reality.
Bent valves and all. Better change the belt then. They won't be a belt left between here and Tim Buck Too.
Was not sure about the interferance thing and said so.
You have done it now Roadkill. A belt shortage is about to take over in reality.
Bent valves and all. Better change the belt then. They won't be a belt left between here and Tim Buck Too.
Was not sure about the interferance thing and said so.
Buy more belts...China men need jobs too!  Maybe they are made in SriLanka ( I dunno ) but I supported the owner at the N.A.P.A store I bought them from and every American that Gates Belts employes |
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2012, 06:27:32 PM » |
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You have done it now Roadkill. A belt shortage is about to take over in reality.
Bent valves and all. Better change the belt then. They won't be a belt left between here and Tim Buck Too.
Was not sure about the interferance thing and said so.
You have done it now Roadkill. A belt shortage is about to take over in reality.
Bent valves and all. Better change the belt then. They won't be a belt left between here and Tim Buck Too.
Was not sure about the interferance thing and said so.
Buy more belts...China men need jobs too! Maybe they are made in SriLanka ( I dunno ) but I supported the owner at the N.A.P.A store I bought them from and every American that Gates Belts employes I am a Gates man myself, they are clearly better |
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2012, 06:39:20 PM » |
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Thanx Jess.... I need bookmark it again. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2012, 06:50:24 PM » |
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Welcome, Elliot, Good to have the Clymer's. If you can handle another 150MB or so, you can download the factory Service Manual at Dag's Valkyrie Norway site. Go here http://www.valkyrienorway.com/ and look down the left side of the page for the Valkyrie Document Center link. Dag has accumulated a huge amount of useful and interesting information. You should also have a copy of Jeff K's Generic Parts list. Among other great info, it lists the Gates, Napa, and Goodyear cross-referenced timing belts for the Valkyrie. Gates: #275. Napa: #250275. Goodyear: #40275. http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm You can order the Honda timing belts online at hdlparts.com, but you'll find the discounted price there is $53.31 each. I got my Gates belts off Amazon for $18.00 each with free shipping. The DFW January dinner/meeting is tomorrow night in Plano if you can make it. Details on the Texas Board http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/board,3.0.html. DFG |
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2012, 06:51:55 AM » |
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I looked at mine and they looked new. The story in the Clymer book was a little confusing though.
The whole "valves onto Z's" kinda makes me wanna do it though.
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