They're gonna END THIS MESSAGE BOARD IMPORTANT Edited by (oZ)

[Daniel Meyer]

The day might be coming when your content is blocked if you offend the wrong government agency, person, or company.

As a small business AND an intellectual rights/copyright holder I strongly oppose this badly crafted and extraordinarily dangerous legislation.

Take action.

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[BF]

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[98valk]

they want control over the internet and don't have it right now.

6) Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.

Communists, Socialists and Liberals have worked very hard to exercise complete control over the media via the FCC and monopolistic media mogul billionaires. At this time they control 90 to 95% of the media that the masses turn to for information. But the free press has proved more resilient than our enemies planned and the Internet is really upsetting their apple-cart. As for their efforts to centralize transportation, liberals are very anxious to force us all to use state run mass transit trains, subways and car pooling schemes. Thus we can see how the enemies of liberty have very nearly achieved their goal of fully implementing the sixth plank of the communist manifesto.

http://www.greaterthings.com/Constitution/Associates/10Marx_planks.htm

[hubcapsc]

I think "they" want to protect property rights.

Sopa and Pipa have that as their intent, they're just not doing it right, and lawmakers
are realizing that. Lawmakers aren't smarter than the rest of us, but they're not that
much dumber than we are, either...

Sen. Marco Rubio  (R-Fla.) — who was a co-sponsor of the PROTECT IP Act — became the latest lawmaker Wednesday to pull his support. In the House, Rep. Ben Quayle (R-Ariz.), originally a co-sponsor of the Stop Online Piracy Act, pulled his name from the list of sponsors on Tuesday. A spokesman for Rep. Lee Terry (R-Neb.), meanwhile, told the Omaha World-Herald on Wednesday that the congressman is also unable to support SOPA as written.

"I support intellectual property rights, but I oppose SOPA & PIPA, they're misguided bills that will cause more harm than good." [Jim DeMint]

I don't have a solution that keeps the Internet intact AND protects property rights, but I don't
think that Sopa or Pipa have any chance of becoming law...

Here's one of those "blacked out" sites, their Statement of Problem is kind of humorous...

http://thedailywtf.com/

-Mike

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What the Stanford Law Review says.

http://www.stanfordlawreview.org/online/dont-break-internet

[BigAl]

The Government is afraid of the Networking Sights.

In all the backwards countries like IRAN,,,Egypt,,,Syria, first thing they do is shut down social networking sights.

When trouble strikes and they want control of the media in any form.

Is something up you know who's sleeve,,,,,,,, for us.

Time will tell.

[oZ]

I actually thought about taking down this site in protest of these proposed laws! But I knew Scott would probably kill me as he is the one that put all the work into building this board, kind of his baby!

If these laws become reality it will impact this board and the Valkyrie Riders Club by adding liabilities to the VRCC Board Members. If a random poster links to a government black listed site we could possibly be held responsible!

If these laws come to pass we may have to consider if to continue an open discussion board as, again we'd be held responsible EVEN though we did not personally make the post.

In short an I may be over reacting, this could put an end to this forum.

If the law passes we will seek professional legal council... If we can afford.

[junior]

welcome to the sue you society

[hubcapsc]

What the Stanford Law Review says.

http://www.stanfordlawreview.org/online/dont-break-internet

Protect IP authorizes courts to order all U.S. Internet service providers, domain name registries, domain name registrars, and operators of domain name servers—a category that includes hundreds of thousands of small and medium-sized businesses, colleges, universities, nonprofit organizations, and the like—to take steps to prevent the offending site’s domain name from translating to the correct Internet protocol address.

Those law guys don't understand how the Internet works either 

The authoritative records for the DNS are distributed throughout the Internet. All of those entities the law guys
mention control their own little parts of the DNS. Only the entity that controls the DNS for the offending site would
have the ability to remove the offending site's DNS records from the DNS... The mechanism by which
a "court" would identify the humans in charge of an offending site is kind of funny to even think about...

court person number one: that danged VRCC site is offensive!

court person number two: we need to figure out who to arrest!

court person number one whips out his Linux laptop:

# dig valkyrieforum.com ns
   valkyrieforum.com.   6697   IN      NS      ns2.vrccserver.com.

hmm...

# dig vrccserver.com ns
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

# dig vrccserver.com soa
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

court person number two: Somebody call O'bama!

court person number one: Turn off the Internet!

hilarity ensues...

-Mike

[oZ]

So you'all read this, right!

[junior]

So you'all read this, right!

yes but I dont understand some of it. could someone put it in a simpler terms?

[John Schmidt]

So you'all read this, right!

yes but I dont understand some of it. could someone put it in a simpler terms?

Yeah!  If the law passes, we're screwed. Wholly and severally....meaning as a nation and as individuals that use the internet. You can rely on our lawmakers to put out fires with gasoline.