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« on: January 19, 2012, 04:36:17 PM » |
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 06:15:56 PM » |
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I use the Crimson Trace on my handguns and they are fabulous. Used one and 6:30 this morning as a matter of fact when I noticed huge 5" wide mountain lion tracks going into and around my garage in the snow and darkness. It was black as hell and I was carrying a 24 pound box and my coffee when I cut the track halfway between my house and garage. I didn't want to shoot him, I just wanted my truck out. The laser and a small flashlight turned out very handy, and luckily unneeded. Very instinctive in low light situations. Perfect for when you couldn't otherwise get a good sight picture like a road rage incident where you are huddled down in your cage, etc. Once you have one you won't believe how you did without it. Battery lasts a long time and are common. Solid, dependable.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 06:40:00 PM » |
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Plus one on the Crimson Trace. The lasers are quite bright and thus easier to track in brighter conditions. Not that you asked, but I would suggest avoiding the guide rod lasers produced by Laser Max. They are not very bright and also interfered with the proper functioning of my Glock 26.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 07:21:09 PM » |
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They make one that goes in the spring guide. Replaces the guide rail with the laser. Ill try to find a link for it
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 07:24:12 PM » |
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Www.lasermax.com looks like they run about 300 bucks now I want one for my xdm 40
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 07:38:22 PM » |
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Www.lasermax.com looks like they run about 300 bucks now I want one for my xdm 40 I put one of these in my Glock 36. at about 10 yards the laser was 2" below and to the left. (Checked with a boresight laser) No adjustment that I found. The laser strobes and uses the take down tabs as the switch. After several hundred rounds through the Glock, the laser worked fine. Have to be careful breaking down the gun, little parts sometimes come free. have fun
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2012, 05:10:11 AM » |
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Sounds like the Crimson Trace is the most accurate/reliable choice. Now I know what to save up for... unless a better option crops up while I am saving. Thanks for the input everyone. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2012, 01:29:43 PM » |
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I've been thinking crimson trace myself, sounds like the one. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2012, 01:39:01 PM » |
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Hi again Cliff. Forgot to mention how important it is that the laser be able to be turned on and off instinctively just by squeezing the grip. While the laser is a HUGE benefit in target acquisition, it also works backwards. If you aren't careful, you give away your position and allow your adversary a great shot. If I were searching my house at night I would want to move mostly in darkness and only quickly light the laser momentarily for quick peeks, etc. I would never have a laser sight of any kind that didn't allow this quick on/off.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2012, 01:46:26 PM » |
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Hi again Cliff. Forgot to mention how important it is that the laser be able to be turned on and off instinctively just by squeezing the grip. While the laser is a HUGE benefit in target acquisition, it also works backwards. If you aren't careful, you give away your position and allow your adversary a great shot. If I were searching my house at night I would want to move mostly in darkness and only quickly light the laser momentarily for quick peeks, etc. I would never have a laser sight of any kind that didn't allow this quick on/off.
In the house, a tail cap switch or remote activated flashlight would be a better choice IMHO.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2012, 03:42:18 PM » |
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2012, 03:58:05 PM » |
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Hi again Cliff. Forgot to mention how important it is that the laser be able to be turned on and off instinctively just by squeezing the grip. While the laser is a HUGE benefit in target acquisition, it also works backwards. If you aren't careful, you give away your position and allow your adversary a great shot. If I were searching my house at night I would want to move mostly in darkness and only quickly light the laser momentarily for quick peeks, etc. I would never have a laser sight of any kind that didn't allow this quick on/off.
In the house, a tail cap switch or remote activated flashlight would be a better choice IMHO. It's not even a matter of opinion really. A light is just better. A laser will not help you see in the dark. And while both will make your presence known a high intensity tactical light will actually blind your attacker.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 11:56:10 AM » |
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Looking for a laser sight for my SA XD 9.. anyone familiar with these??? Want satisfaction so the cost diff is NOT a factor,,, just need feedback and opinions on these or other suggestions.. Trying to use something that will work with my crossbreed super tuck holster.
Cliff, check out this link to the XD-Forum. Tons of good information. Your question has been asked many times here, lot's of good reading. I am a member here. http://www.xdtalk.com/This may be helpful too... http://www.lasertactical.com/Springfield_Armory_s/36.htm
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 01:08:17 PM » |
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I really like the Lasermax systems I have in my Sigs. Good enough for the some of the finest fighting men this country produces means way more than I need. I also much prefer my Hogue finger grips to any others. I have them more for defense than anything else. If I have a red dot on your chest, I'm telling you by word and deed that I MUCH prefer you DON'T charge. If you do, well, then you simply will to be brought down. My intention with the laser is one more reason NOT to pull the trigger. I see guys using lasers all the time at the range. It will NOT make a poor or average shooter into a good shooter. But it will show you and others your skill level. Some peoples targets look like a virtual laser light show. The Lasermax is spot on with POA/POI at 20/25 feet. If you're shooting low/left or any other scenario at 20/25 feet, it likely isn't the laser. The shooter needs to adjust, not the laser. Realistically, if I have a red dot center mass at 30 feet and the round hits an inch from the dot, I'm perfectly fine with that. Again, it's a defensive tool for self defense the way I see it. Anything else and you're the predator, not the prey and your liability is completely different. All the best, Mark
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2012, 02:59:57 PM » |
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My son has the Crimson Trace and it is adjustable. Guy at work had a lasermax on his Glock and it was ALWAYS going down. He sent it back to the factory and it still crapped out after that. I ordered a new 45 Kimber with the Crimson Trace, and night sites (never bet your life on something with batteries to work when you need it). Alot of guys at work have Crimson Trace and they work. The battery is a standard one you can get at any store and they are on/off by gripping the gun, you do not have to take time to flip and extra switch under stress like the lasermax.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2012, 07:42:52 PM » |
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Do you want the CT laser on everytime you grasp the grip of your weapon? If not, then the pressure on/off switch is a mute point. Eveytime I draw or pick up my Sigs, my index finger naturally rides along the frame to the take down lever pivot point. If I want the Lasermax on, no problem, my finger tip is already where it needs to be. No fiddeling for an on/off switch and it's a one hand operation either way.
At what distance do you want to adjust or zero in the CT laser? 10', it'll be off at 20'. 30', it'll be off at 20'. Do you have to start all over again everytime you remove the grip for cleaning? I have no stake in what anyone chooses whether it be a Lasermax, Crimson Trace or something else. I've made my descision, others are obviously free to do the same. Opinion based descisions are one thing. Descisions based on facts, logic and common sense are something quite different. Maybe it's more like a Ford/Chevy/Dodge thing.
All the best,
Mark
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 07:47:39 AM » |
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Mark T,
Glad you're happy with your CT purchases.
All the best,
Mark
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