Fudd
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« on: January 20, 2012, 07:29:56 PM » |
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Now that Shockbushing Gary is no longer with us,
Does anybody know where to find urethane rear wheel dampners?
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Skinhead
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 07:08:05 AM » |
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Now that Shockbushing Gary is no longer with us,
Does anybody know where to find urethane rear wheel dampners?
The short answer, no. Perhaps after a reasonable period to allow the family to grieve, and recover from his loss, an inquiry to his wife might provide the source Gary used, and a reasonable agreement could be reached to use Gary's design, source, and pay a portion of future sales to the family if someone were willing to take over the ordering and distribution. This is just a thought on my part, what do you think? Does that sound insensitive? |
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 07:25:46 AM » |
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i would stand up and take charge if needed ,,
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 07:36:17 AM » |
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i thought he made 'em himself.
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 08:10:46 AM » |
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Back in the old days we used to supplement the wheel dampers in our little
Yamaha and Suzuki dirt bikes with "silicone seal", or else we'd eventually
destroy our hubs... of course, if we'd had two nickles to rub together, we'd
have just changed out the dampers every few tires... I've put 50k on my
Valkyrie, and have changed out the dampers a couple of times. The OEMs
are real tight going in, and slop is easily detected within a tire or two...
The guy that told us about the silicone seal "trick" was Allen Brown, he
raced Maicos and briefly owned a Suzuki shop in Mauldin SC... I just googled
for
"allen brown" maico
and got lots of hits, he's still a Maico man, lots of pictures of cool old
Maicos he's rebuilt... the search also revealed some other "old" names
of people still in the business... Barry Higgins in Georgia for example...
-Mike
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Willow
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2012, 08:22:37 AM » |
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Possibly at the top of this page as you read it.XF6 TWO PIECE POLYURETHANE SHOCK BUSHINGS
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2012, 08:31:03 AM » |
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them there's not wheel dampers Willer... I looked all around on their site before I made my post... they have lots of good looking stuff there.. -Mike |
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Willow
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2012, 08:39:01 AM » |
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them there's not wheel dampers Willer... I looked all around on their site
before I made my post... they have lots of good looking stuff there.. Oops! Thanks, Mike. Looks like I'm going to need to go back for a refresher on those reading lessons.  |
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2012, 08:51:23 AM » |
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Maybe XF6 would be interested in looking into making the urethane wheel dampers since he already has ecperience in making uretane parts? Just a thought...Jim  |
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2012, 09:05:01 AM » |
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Just a thought here,maybe I will give it a shot and let ya'all know how it works. Windshield glue is a urethane that spreads like silicone and fills gaps with a water tight seal that adheres to ANYTHING near it and is almost indestructible! I just need to figure out how to keep it from glueing the dampner to the wheel so it could be removed with out needing dynamite and a jackhammer.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2012, 09:05:24 AM » |
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If ya'll is good at puttin a bug in someone's ear, I'll bet Daryl will listen to ya. He is good people......... Willow, are far as readin lessons, probably wouldn't hurt ya none. LOL....  It would at least keep ya occupied for a few minutes..... How be da old Gunny anyway. I assume Lori is still a gettin ur attention every now and then. |
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Skinhead
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2012, 11:21:46 AM » |
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Just a thought here,maybe I will give it a shot and let ya'all know how it works. Windshield glue is a urethane that spreads like silicone and fills gaps with a water tight seal that adheres to ANYTHING near it and is almost indestructible! I just need to figure out how to keep it from glueing the dampner to the wheel so it could be removed with out needing dynamite and a jackhammer.
How's about spraying the wheel with WD40 or PAM before you glue in the dampers? Where can you find the windshield glue? NAPA maybe? |
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2012, 11:40:14 AM » |
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Just a thought here,maybe I will give it a shot and let ya'all know how it works. Windshield glue is a urethane that spreads like silicone and fills gaps with a water tight seal that adheres to ANYTHING near it and is almost indestructible! I just need to figure out how to keep it from glueing the dampner to the wheel so it could be removed with out needing dynamite and a jackhammer.
How's about spraying the wheel with WD40 or PAM before you glue in the dampers? Where can you find the windshield glue? NAPA maybe? Most any parts stores would have it. 3M P/N 08609 is what I use mostly. Glued a pair of boot soles on with it, attached a radiator support to the frame in a diesel truck, lots of windshields,repaired /weatherproofed camper roofs, sealed a leaking radiator and a heater core etc.. All were quick patch jobs that stayed patched permanently. |
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2012, 01:03:31 PM » |
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Just a thought here,maybe I will give it a shot and let ya'all know how it works. Windshield glue is a urethane that spreads like silicone and fills gaps with a water tight seal that adheres to ANYTHING near it and is almost indestructible! I just need to figure out how to keep it from glueing the dampner to the wheel so it could be removed with out needing dynamite and a jackhammer.
they also sell urethane window sealant in home depot. Only problem is the oem dampers have a durometer rating. this is what Gary designed and spec'd out to make his. too soft and they will wear out faster than oem, too hard, one will have driveline damage. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2012, 01:16:12 PM » |
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"durometer rating" That would be the squishyness factor in redneck terms.  |
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Skinhead
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2012, 01:53:14 PM » |
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Just a thought here,maybe I will give it a shot and let ya'all know how it works. Windshield glue is a urethane that spreads like silicone and fills gaps with a water tight seal that adheres to ANYTHING near it and is almost indestructible! I just need to figure out how to keep it from glueing the dampner to the wheel so it could be removed with out needing dynamite and a jackhammer.
they also sell urethane window sealant in home depot. Only problem is the oem dampers have a durometer rating. this is what Gary designed and spec'd out to make his. too soft and they will wear out faster than oem, too hard, one will have driveline damage. Yes, MY point was that Gary already has a source with the tooling he used and a material spec. I just don't want to upset his family by getting into all that with them. That's why I was asking for thoughts on what other members think about it. I would be glad to order and distribute if it is convenient to do so. |
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 08:27:43 AM » |
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By the calendar, this post last replied to was in January. I am getting ready to get the back wheel off and do tires and etc. and wanted to know if a new source for the poly dampers has been found/or are available? If not, what are most here buying to replace them? I've read a lot of posts on this and the VTX dampers have shown up also. Will they work as a replacement, kind of like the shock bushings do? I just wanted to get the best ones available for the job at hand.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2012, 08:31:02 AM » |
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Didn't someone recently report a failure with Gary's dampers??
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Fudd
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2012, 10:05:56 AM » |
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Didn't someone recently report a failure with Gary's dampers??
I trying to come up with the right "search" to repost that thread. I think it was an isolated problem with a certain batch's compound, if I remember correctly. The advice from X-Ring is to order some stock ones for an Interstate model to get the best and latest design of dampners. |
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Skinhead
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2012, 04:57:43 PM » |
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Nothing has been done as far as sourcing urethane dampers, at this point I'd go with stock one piece OEM, they are less expensive than Gary's, but they work just fine.
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2012, 08:40:56 PM » |
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From X-Ring via Fudd;
The advice from X-Ring is to order some stock ones for an Interstate model to get the best and latest design of dampners.
I have an 03 Standard, are you saying the ones from the I/S will work for me?
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2012, 09:05:45 PM » |
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Yes. Order the dampers for a 2000 I/S and you will get the dampers with the bushings molded into them. Far, far cheaper than buying the rubber dampers and the inserts separately.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2012, 09:23:20 PM » |
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Thanks All, Gene
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