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« on: May 11, 2009, 09:52:51 PM » |
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Hey everyone,
I'm going to check out a 99 interstate and a 98 standard(?) this week. The 99 has 52k on it the 98 has 28k. Are there any Valkyrie specific things I should be on the lookout for? I used to ride a VTX1300 but I had to sell it, now I'm looking for something to do some nice touring with the wife on.
I live in Mexico, so used Valks are few and far between. This is a rare opportunity indeed and I hope at least one of them works out for me.
Thanks!
Pax
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 10:28:02 PM » |
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How many dollars you have to spend ??
Quanto dinero para motocicletas ?
Donde in Mexico es usted ?
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 10:35:26 PM » |
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Welcome Pax,
You & your wife would be happier on the Interstate for 2-up touring. On these Valks either of those miles is relatively insignificant. Even at 52k miles a well maintained Valk is capable of 5 times that mileage. Big thing is maintenance records, if you can get them. An often missed maintenance item would be the rear drive. There's no way to check the drive splines without pulling the wheel. This service is a must do every 10k miles. Check the fuel tank for rust. Check the hydraulic fluids color in the reservoir windows. If it's anything more then amber it hasn't been changed. If it's so dark you can't see the the view disk through the fluid in the window that could be a bad sign that mechanical maintenance hasn't been well maintained.
Other then that if the bikes are visible clean & well maintained that's often a sign that mechanical maintenance my have been kept up with.
If it idles rough it's probably been sitting awhile. Fuel additives will sometimes clear the small slow jet passages. If not the slow jets would need replacing or upgrading. It's a common issue due to a single carb per cylinder when air gets to the fuel in the carb passages and very small slow jet passages.
You should probably change all fluids and check rear splines and lube with Honda moly paste or Guard Dog products. Ya might need to put tires on it too, if you go home with one of them.
Anything you spot you can use to negotiate.
Post up if you have any more questions once you take a look at them if you need to. Someone's always here to help.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 11:24:34 PM » |
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How many dollars you have to spend ??
Quanto dinero para motocicletas ?
Donde in Mexico es usted ?
I'm in Toluca, about 45 minutes west of Mexico City. The bikes are in Queretaro, about 3 hours north of the city. Hopefully I can go on Friday to see them. He's asking 85k pesos for the 98 and 80 for the 99, thats about 6,500 US and 6,100 US, good prices for those bikes down here, and with all the paperwork in order he says. |
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 06:09:00 AM » |
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He's asking 85k pesos for the 98 and 80 for the 99, thats about 6,500 US and 6,100 US, good prices for those bikes down here,
That's pretty darn good especially for the Interstate if it's in good shape. |
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 07:13:49 AM » |
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Get the Interstate if touring is what you like the most but get the Standard if like riding a bare bike with the most breeze in your face if possible. More goodies on the Interstate. The hard bags are a big plus and an expensive addition to the standard later.
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pax maac
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 08:46:27 AM » |
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Here are pics of the bikes-  This is the 99. You can see the bag is scratched.  This is the 98. I'd have to get a windshield for it, but it looks nice right? |
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 09:14:01 AM » |
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My Tourer had stock seats, no backrest and no highway pegs when I got it. I didn't think I cared.
Turns out those things are *very* important to most of us in order to have any kind
of comfort on long rides...
Good seats are $500 or more...
Good highway pegs are $100 or more...
Good windshields and associated hardware (maybe the owner still has the hardware?) are $300 or more...
-Mike
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2009, 09:17:53 AM » |
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me and my wife comfortably go anywhere we want on my tourer. the bags are roomy. the seats are comfy.That'd be my pick.
Might pull the dust shield and check the timing belts. They should last longer,but those bikes are 10 years old, so it is worth a check.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2009, 09:33:21 AM » |
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me and my wife comfortably go anywhere we want on my tourer. the bags are roomy. the seats are comfy.That'd be my pick.
Might pull the dust shield and check the timing belts. They should last longer,but those bikes are 10 years old, so it is worth a check.
He doesn't have a Tourer for sale. He has an Interstate and a standard. I would pick the Interstate if the wife wanted to ride along. Just my 2 cents..... |
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2009, 10:31:22 AM » |
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me and my wife comfortably go anywhere we want on my tourer. the bags are roomy. the seats are comfy.That'd be my pick.
Might pull the dust shield and check the timing belts. They should last longer,but those bikes are 10 years old, so it is worth a check.
He doesn't have a Tourer for sale. He has an Interstate and a standard. I would pick the Interstate if the wife wanted to ride along. Just my 2 cents..... Big IV - I haven't noticed in your pictures... you ride on a stock 98 seat? I rode on the stock seat for almost a year... As far as that thing being a Std... what's the difference between a Std and a Tourer... I thought it was just bags and a shield... ? -Mike "maybe it's a Tourard?" |
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2009, 11:48:26 AM » |
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The bag says Tourer on it. Can't see from here if it has had a shield in the past. Looks to me like a tourer they've taken the shield off of. Or it could be a converted standard. It is hard to say. I run the stock seats on mine. I tried to build another passenger seat out of a front seat. The bags made it difficult. I'll probably end up buying a used interstate seat from pinwall to put on the back. My wife wants something different for the longest rides. Either way, that Mexican bike is a good looking bike.  I love that paint scheme  |
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2009, 12:36:57 PM » |
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That Bike has the OEM windshield mounts still on it. Look just below the top left portion of the triple tree, you can see the top left mounting for the shield.
If the seller still has the shield, and if it's in good shape, yer good to go. If it's in not so good shape, take it any way, and get new plastic, from Clearview.
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2009, 01:25:04 PM » |
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The Burgundy & Cream is definitely a Tourer less the wind screen. Those colors were not available on any other model.
It may just be the Interstate picture quality, but it looks a little rough?
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2009, 01:46:39 PM » |
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The Burgundy & Cream is definitely a Tourer less the wind screen. Those colors were not available on any other model Not trying to start an off-topic argument, but the 1998 Standard was also available in that color scheme, but I agree the pictured one is a Tourer with the windshield removed... It's hard to get a good feel from just the pictures, but the Red/Ivory tourer does appear to be in better shape than the Interstate, it's also got more extras on it that I can see... IMHO you'll be happy with any of 'em though...  |
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2009, 05:46:19 AM » |
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If you get the VIN, and go to dags site, you can see from the VIN if a tourer or a standard. SC340 is a US standard. SC343 is a US tourer. If it happens to be a CA or overseas bike, may be different. Go here: www.valkyrienorway.com/Discussion%20of%20Variants.htmlMP |
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pax maac
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2009, 05:52:55 AM » |
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The 98 was a US bike, the 99 was purchased from a dealer in Mexico. I'll note the VINs when I see them, thanks.
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2009, 07:51:52 AM » |
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You can always tell the difference between a Tourer and a Standard....even if it's got the hardbags and the windshield.
Standards have their red (rear) side reflectors mounted high on the rear fender under the passenger seat. Tourers don't.....their reflectors are mounted on the sides of the hardbags and don't have reflectors on the rear fender.
You can always tell if it's a standard in tourer clothing by checking to see if the reflector is on the fender or not.
The bike pictured is a tourer without the windshield.
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2009, 09:32:32 AM » |
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You can always tell the difference between a Tourer and a Standard....even if it's got the hardbags and the windshield.
Standards have their red (rear) side reflectors mounted high on the rear fender under the passenger seat. Tourers don't.....their reflectors are mounted on the sides of the hardbags and don't have reflectors on the rear fender.
You can always tell if it's a standard in tourer clothing by checking to see if the reflector is on the fender or not.
The bike pictured is a tourer without the windshield.
Ok, cool. So...are the differences between them just cosmetic then, or are there any mechanical differences? |
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2009, 03:28:14 PM » |
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Well, I saw the 2 bikes yesterday.
What pieces of crap. The photos don't even come close to showing condition those bikes are in. The Interstate should be junked. It has been down, its scratched to hell, all the upholstery is torn, rust everywhere.
The tourer was better, but not much. He found a windshield for it, but it was so scratched and nasty you couldn't even see through it. When he tried to start it, nothing. He push started it to show me the engine was good and offered to change the battery if I bought it. Not a chance. Rust, and all kinds of discoloration all over it.
And we were talking about importing bikes from the US and he told me that the government just raised the tax to import to 42% of the blue book value of the bike, so most of the bikes that get brought it are gonna be salvage title now. Great.
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