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« on: February 08, 2012, 07:16:42 AM » |
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I recently posted in BigAl's thread and was surprised by how many took my words personally.
First, let me say that I sincerely apologize to those whom I offended. My words were my own thoughts (poorly expressed) and do not in any way represent those of any others, most specifically the staff of the VRCC.
I did not wish to say that I wanted anyone to leave the forum. Well, there is one, and it's not Big Al. I did think Big Al might be headed in the direction of the other member who appears to only be on the board to complain about and criticize Valkyries and Valkyrie owners. Al has not reached that point, nor have any of the folks that reacted to my post.
I guess what I failed to communicate is that the phrase "or is interested in" covers a lot of our friends here in the VRCC community who no longer ride Valkyries.
I'm posting this apology here so as to not further muddy the waters of Al's thread.
Again, I apologize. My words were poorly chosen and poorly placed. I regret and would remove the post, but to do so would leave the words of others orphaned.
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 07:27:57 AM » |
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What you said just sounded reasonable to me...obvious really. ???
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 07:30:26 AM » |
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Willow, I do not think most took offense, and as I said the winter has made the skin thin. I think most understood what you meant, and that it was not directed to any one person especially not Al. At least I did not see it that way
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 07:31:12 AM » |
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What you said just sounded reasonable to me...obvious really. ???
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 07:41:21 AM » |
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Willow, I do not think most took offense, and as I said the winter has made the skin thin. I think most understood what you meant, and that it was not directed to any one person especially not Al. At least I did not see it that way
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 07:45:47 AM » |
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Carl As I said,thought you were right on. Nothing to apoligize for in my mind. I agree with What you said just sounded reasonable to me...obvious really. Chrome  |
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 07:46:41 AM » |
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Willow, I believe I understood what you meant and I did not see it as wishing anyone to leave. I have seen your comments on several posts and have admired your effort and ability to shut down rankor. Sometimes even before it gets started.
Nobody is perfect. If your words were not "perfect" for everyone this time, it makes you noless valuable to this board.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 08:27:49 AM » |
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Im kinda with Britman on this one But then who would I borrow Benadryl from at the next rally when I get stung on the eyelid by a bee Al can take it, he has almost as thick a skin as most attorneys (that was not an insult Al, I am not going to start a new thread for you  ) Besides He who hath not apologized hath not been married......... Carl I did not take any umbrage and think I understood the intent and tenor of your post Carry on |
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 08:28:25 AM » |
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Willow, I do not think most took offense, and as I said the winter has made the skin thin. I think most understood what you meant, and that it was not directed to any one person especially not Al. At least I did not see it that way
Yuri
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 08:30:21 AM » |
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 08:35:52 AM » |
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Willow, I am offended by your apology!  |
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 08:41:00 AM » |
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Willow, I am offended by your apology! +1 for wit. |
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 08:44:27 AM » |
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No apology necessary. Your off-the-cuff stated purpose of this forum was reasonable and on-the-mark. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 08:46:42 AM » |
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2012, 08:48:06 AM » |
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I am offended by Serk being offended by your apology.
Other than that I didn't see anything wrong.
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2012, 09:01:01 AM » |
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Ah... offense....off-smense. Nuthin' wrong in what you originally said or how any of it was subsequently handled.
i find that in life, including the microcosms such as message boards and the like, the biggest "pot-stirrers" usually have the thinest skin.
Keep up the good work...
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2012, 09:20:04 AM » |
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I agree with Rodney King.
Go buy a big piece of chrome, you'll feel better.
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2012, 09:34:40 AM » |
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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2012, 10:21:39 AM » |
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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2012, 10:43:46 AM » |
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I took it the way I believe you intended it, and not the way some did. No way did I think you meant Al to leave. It is very gracious to offer the apology to those that misunderstood. MP |
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2012, 10:50:41 AM » |
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I recently posted in BigAl's thread and was surprised by how many took my words personally.
First, let me say that I sincerely apologize to those whom I offended. My words were my own thoughts (poorly expressed) and do not in any way represent those of any others, most specifically the staff of the VRCC.
I did not wish to say that I wanted anyone to leave the forum. Well, there is one, and it's not Big Al. I did think Big Al might be headed in the direction of the other member who appears to only be on the board to complain about and criticize Valkyries and Valkyrie owners. Al has not reached that point, nor have any of the folks that reacted to my post.
I guess what I failed to communicate is that the phrase "or is interested in" covers a lot of our friends here in the VRCC community who no longer ride Valkyries.
I'm posting this apology here so as to not further muddy the waters of Al's thread.
Again, I apologize. My words were poorly chosen and poorly placed. I regret and would remove the post, but to do so would leave the words of others orphaned.
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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2012, 10:56:34 AM » |
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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2012, 11:11:48 AM » |
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Way to many "thin skinned" people read this forum board.
It was not an attack to anyone particular individual.
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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2012, 11:38:09 AM » |
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IS IT ME??? I hadn't thought of you, Tom, but now that you mention it ... Naw, it's not you. So ya got poked in the eye, so what, you've got other one...  ....how the hell are ya Carl, see ya down at HG's & FB's..till then... |
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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2012, 12:03:29 PM » |
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IS IT ME??? I hadn't thought of you, Tom, but now that you mention it ... Naw, it's not you. I thought it was to! |
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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2012, 01:16:32 PM » |
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I understood you comment, agreed with and went on. No Problem
And I understand your new post and why you felt it was necessary.
As for an apology I do not feel it is necessary or called for but it is certainly ok to do so.
Sometimes it is easy to be misunderstood and very difficult to get folks to understand just simple english.
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« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2012, 01:47:45 PM » |
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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2012, 01:49:12 PM » |
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I took your comment in the the way I think you intended it to mean......but I offend MYSELF and need to boot my own @ss out of the forum.....  |
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IS IT ME??? I hadn't thought of you, Tom, but now that you mention it ... Naw, it's not you. I thought it was to! I KNOW FUDGIE HUH??? and I spent countless seconds on my reBUTTAL 2... |
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« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2012, 02:26:53 PM » |
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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2012, 02:45:29 PM » |
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Think that maybe Willow's post had anything to do with this locked thread? http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,37920.0.htmlOr perhaps the seeming constant (of late) accusations of calling everyone here a "Harley hater"...even when no one, not one person in some of these threads ever said anything derogatory, hateful or expressed anykind of hatred towards Harleys.....or perhaps saying that all Valkyries look alike with the insinuation that Harleys are somehow superior in that regard? Maybe? Nawwwwww. Wouldn't happen here.  |
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« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2012, 03:07:29 PM » |
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Think that maybe Willow's post had anything to do with this locked thread? http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,37920.0.htmlOr perhaps the seeming constant (of late) accusations of calling everyone here a "Harley hater"...even when no one, not one person in some of these threads ever said anything derogatory, hateful or expressed anykind of hatred towards Harleys.....or perhaps saying that all Valkyries look alike with the insinuation that Harleys are somehow superior in that regard? Maybe? Nawwwwww. Wouldn't happen here. +1 Thank you BF. |
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« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2012, 03:11:57 PM » |
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Willow,
See what happened here? Only the folks who were "offended" made the stink with all the posts. Look how many others just accepted it and went on with their business without chiming in... like me. There's way more people who completely understood what you said, and meant, than those who got all verbal about it. I saw no need for any apology. In the future you should just sit back and figure that the majority, who aren't saying anything, are on your side. I guess it's simpler not to jump in the fray sometimes.
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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2012, 03:25:52 PM » |
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I really dont know anyone here personally, so I am looking at the post in question with a neutral outlook.
In my eyes I did not see anything wrong with what was said by Willow, I read it several times to make sure somebody else was not seeing something I wasn't. I never once read where anyone was told to leave this site, only the poster's opinion on what the site is dedicated to.
Maybe if someone was thinking it was a personal attack upon him he saw things differently.
6 of 1 or 1/2 a dozen I guess...
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2012, 04:05:34 PM » |
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It's all good, Willow. Sometimes people get offended for no real reason. I think this is a great forum and a wonderfully diverse group with a common interest in the Valkyrie.
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2012, 04:20:16 PM » |
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