Kit had her 1st gun run in at the store

[fudgie]

Sorry guys for not responding but sure makes for a great read.  Got some stuff about the incident to post but am declining for sake of argueing.  Plus I cant/ wont change you all's mind on 'myths' that have been posted.

 MarkT, 

[musclehead]

The truth is you have almost no chance against a criminal.
The criminal will have a gun to the head of the armed citizen before the armed citizen even realizes what is happening.  At that point, the armed citizen will not dare try to reach for his gun.  The criminal, besides securing the money he are after, will also take the armed citizen’s gun.
Remember Ronald Reagan......he had 6 highly trained Secret Service agents at his side.
I believe that I have a better chance of getting hit by your stray inacurate bullet than from any criminal.
Law enforcement generally agrees with me. But hey, go for it. Its your right.

That's so stupid I feel dumber for having read it. You know little to nothing of how these encounters usually happen.

And law enforcement does not generally agree with you.

Hinkley hid himself in the press corp, they learn from their mistakes same as all of us.
if you walk around with your head down or video chatting in a bad neighborhood then yes the bad guy will get the drop on you. on the other hand keep situationally aware and you will see the bad guy coming.

[musclehead]

Just 1 study..............but I like my odds.

Studies show that open carry and concealed carry create significant risk to public safety and do little to provide safety to the gun carrier.  In a study funded by the National Institutes of Health and published in the American Journal of Public Health, November 2009, epidemiologists at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine found that, on average, guns did not protect those who possessed them from being shot in an assault.  The study found that people carrying a gun were 4.5 times more likely to be shot in an assault than those not carrying a gun.

I don't carry, I'm scary. I will swear on a stack of bibles that one morning in TX a driver came around the end of my trailer as I was walking back towards him, he took one look at me and darted back around the back of my trailer! 

[Serk]

That's so stupid I feel dumber for having read it.

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[texaninsouthfl]

When are all you people going to learn...........

There is no need to conceal and carry when you have guns like these


I'm from IL, so its the only weapon(s) I can legally have, besides a baton or stun gun, but I'd probably have a better chance throwing rocks 
 

Reb, what the hell are you doing in this forum??? ... everyone knows it's for fat OLD white dudes! 

[x]

That's so stupid I feel dumber for having read it.

Billy Madison - Ultimate Insult (Academic Decathlon)

That's great!

[Jabba]

I carry.  I practice. 

I often don't concealed carry though as I find it difficult to find a way to do so that I am happy with.  Everything is either visible or really uncomfortable for me.  I tend to carry mine in a soft briefcase.  with another in the console of my car.
I have to go into some sketchy neighborhoods sometimes and into abandoned buildings.  I am NOT going unarmed.

I go to a place for lunch sometimes called the Tie-Dye Cafe in Indianapolis.  It's a cop hang out.  And the Owner there open carries.  We make a game of it... "How may 'pieces' are there in the room right now?"  The count was always around 10 or 12.  Until I talked to the Owner one day about it, commenting to him that I am a fan and appreciate the gun friendly business.  He told me that almost EVERY employee was packing as well, to the tune of 5 or 6 more that I had not accounted for.  Now... I realize that there are some of ya'll that would run for the hills from this place... even with their hippy music and decor. Me... it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.  If some scumbag dumbass ever decides to rob THAT place... whoo-BOY he's gonna be in for a BAD day.

Jabba

[Chattanooga Mark]

Great info Jabba. The next time I'm in Indianapolis I'll try and go the Tie Dye Cafe to support their business.

Thank You,

Mark

[fudgie]

I carry.  I practice. 

I often don't concealed carry though as I find it difficult to find a way to do so that I am happy with.  Everything is either visible or really uncomfortable for me.  I tend to carry mine in a soft briefcase.  with another in the console of my car.
I have to go into some sketchy neighborhoods sometimes and into abandoned buildings.  I am NOT going unarmed.

I go to a place for lunch sometimes called the Tie-Dye Cafe in Indianapolis.  It's a cop hang out.  And the Owner there open carries.  We make a game of it... "How may 'pieces' are there in the room right now?"  The count was always around 10 or 12.  Until I talked to the Owner one day about it, commenting to him that I am a fan and appreciate the gun friendly business.  He told me that almost EVERY employee was packing as well, to the tune of 5 or 6 more that I had not accounted for.  Now... I realize that there are some of ya'll that would run for the hills from this place... even with their hippy music and decor. Me... it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.  If some scumbag dumbass ever decides to rob THAT place... whoo-BOY he's gonna be in for a BAD day.

Jabba

Yep what chicago mark said. I posted about that place you mentioned awhile back on a oc forum and alot want to visit when in the area. You got a address?

[Reb]

When are all you people going to learn...........

There is no need to conceal and carry when you have guns like these

I'm from IL, so its the only weapon(s) I can legally have, besides a baton or stun gun, but I'd probably have a better chance throwing rocks 
 

Reb, what the hell are you doing in this forum??? ... everyone knows it's for fat OLD white dudes! 

  I'm here because my knowledge increases substantially when reading Valkyrie related information. On occasion, It's nice to show "Old Farts" That there is young blood amongst you who owns and enjoys the same thing.