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98valk
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« on: February 22, 2012, 08:02:10 AM »

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-12-31/united-states-export/52298812/1

and people wonder why gas prices are rising to $4/gallon and beyond.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 08:22:59 AM »

If owned a company I would want to sell to those willing to pay the most for my product.

Do you have an alternative suggestion?
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 10:04:54 AM »

http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/02/22/florida-drivers-shelling-out-nearly-6-a-gallon-at-some-gas-stations/
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 10:50:08 AM »

We pay about $4.65 a gallon and Canada has crap loads of oil.
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If global warming is happening...why is it so cold up here?
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 12:07:30 PM »



If drivers are silly enough to pay an inflated price....................

So many ways to check gas prices at different locations.

You still haven't come up with alternative to a company being able to set its price.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 01:04:21 PM »

The last time the U.S. was a net exporter of fuels was 1949, when Harry Truman was president. That year, the U.S. exported 86 million barrels and imported 82 million barrels. In the first ten months of 2011, the nation exported 848 million barrels (worth $73.4 billion) and imported 750 million barrels
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 01:06:20 PM »

Maybe Maxine is the reason why the US Oil Companies are not so warm and fuzzy about us anymore.

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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 01:23:16 PM »

Maybe Maxine is the reason why the US Oil Companies are not so warm and fuzzy about us anymore.



same way government is going to help lower medical prices.......
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 01:24:23 PM »

thats funny, we export oil and import timber.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  are you confused I am uglystupid2
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 03:15:34 PM »



That's price gouging plain and simple......taking advantage of the tourist traffic.  Right now, it's 3.59 just down the street from my house, but I'm in a different part of the state (panhandle). 

They do the same thing around here during our tourist season starting in late spring through early fall when the price goes back down again.  Then it goes up before the holidays and then back down again after only to rise again in late spring.  Price gouging......soak 'em while they can get ya. 
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 03:26:37 PM »

thats funny, we export oil and import timber.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  are you confused I am uglystupid2



and we export most of our coal which is highly efficient in regards to BTU. Our cleaner burning coal was put off limits by clinton, Hmmm I wonder why?
 Natural Gas has the same BTU content as ethanol. this all means higher cost for americans. and the cheap coal goes to china and other developing nations who burn it with no regard for emissions.
we have enough coal in the ground to last over 300 hundred yrs.

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The Environmentalists' Drive for Global Power
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 04:01:09 PM »

I don't know, but could this be part of our problems????  This is Not intended as a bash Obama post, but a look at corruption and our economy.  I failed to authenticate this article before posting,  but I have heard a thing or two about Soros.   Please don't ban me from the forums,  Cry


One Evil Human FROM STEVE KROFT (60 Minutes)
This is very interesting material. Glen Beck has been developing material to show all the ties that Soros has through the nation and world along with his goals. This article is written by Steve Kroft from 60 Minutes. It begins to piece together the rise of Obama and his behavior in leading the nation along with many members of Congress (in particular the Democrats, such as the election of Pelosi as the minority leader in Congress)
Interesting read on George Soros
If you have wondered where Obama came from and just how he quickly moved from obscurity to President, or why the media is "selective" in what we are told, here is the man who most probably put him there and is responsible. He controls President Obama's every move. Think this is absurd? Invest a few minutes and read this. You won't regret it.
Who is Obama? Obama is a puppet and here is the explanation of the man or demon that pulls his strings. It’s not by chance that Obama can manipulate the world. I don't think he knows how to tie his shoe laces. After reading this and Obama's reluctance to accept help on the oil spill you wonder if the spill is part of the plan to destroy the US ? "In history, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet someone planned it."/ Franklin Delano Roosevelt

Who Is George Soros? He brought the market down in 2 days. Here is what CBS' Mr. Steve Kroft's research has turned up. It's a bit of a read, and it took 4 months to put it together. "The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States . "George Soros"
George Soros is an evil man. He's anti-God, anti-family, anti-American, and anti-good." He killed and robbed his own Jewish people. What we have in Soros, is a multi-billionaire atheist, with skewed moral values, and a sociopath's lack of conscience. He considers himself to be an elitist World class philosopher, despises the American way, and just loves to do social engineering and change cultures.
György Schwartz, better known to the world as George Soros, was born August 12, 1930 in Hungary . Soros' father, Tivadar, was a fervent practitioner of the Esperanto language invented in 1887, and designed to be the first global language, free of any national identity. The Schwartz's, who were non-practicing Jews, changed the family name to Soros, in order to facilitate assimilation into the Gentile population, as the Nazis spread into Hungary during the 1930s
When Hitler's henchman Adolf Eichmann arrived in Hungary , to oversee the murder of that country's Jews, George Soros ended up with a man whose job was confiscating property from the Jewish population. Soros went with him on his rounds.
Soros has repeatedly called 1944 "the best year of his life." 70% of Mr. Soros's fellow Jews in Hungary, nearly a half-million human beings, were annihilated in that year, yet he gives no sign that this put any damper on his elation, either at the time or indeed in retrospect" During an interview with "Sixty Minute's" Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about his "best year." KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson. SOROS: Yes. Yes. KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from your fellow Jews, friends and neighbors. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes. KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many, years. Was it difficult?
SOROS: No, not at all. Not at all, I rather enjoyed it. KROFT: No feelings of guilt?
SOROS: No, only feelings of absolute power. In his article, Muravchik describes how Soros has admitted to having carried some rather "potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble." Be that as it may. After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics, where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl Popper, one of his professors. Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper's death in 1994. Two of Popper's most influential teachings concerned "the open society," and Fallibilism.
Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken. (Then again, I could be wrong about that.) The "open society" basically refers to a "test and evaluate" approach to social engineering. Regarding "open society" Roy Childs writes, "Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed Popper's advice about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess." In 1956 Soros moved to New York City, where he worked on Wall Street, and started amassing his fortune. He specialized in hedge funds and currency speculation. Soros is absolutely ruthless, amoral, and clever in his business dealings, and quickly made his fortune. By the 1980s he was well on his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today. In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for "The American Thinker" she says, "Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England. He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically, almost overnight."
In 1994 Soros crowed in "The New Republic," that "the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire." The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be "one of the greatest social robberies in human history.”the "Soros Empire" indeed. In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia. At the time, Malaysia’s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohammad, called Soros "a = villain, and a moron." Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, "We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people." The website Greek National Pride reports, "Soros was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia , Ukraine and Myanmar [Burma] Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros' role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality." France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for "illegal market manipulation." Elizabeth Crum writes that the Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized. Soros deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary’s economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover. My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach. But what about America? Soros told Australia’s national newspaper "The Australian." “America, as the centre of the globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out," he said, adding that the time has come for "a very serious adjustment" in American's consumption habits. He implied that he was the one with the power to bring this about."
Soros: "World financial crisis was "stimulating" and "in a way, the culmination of my life's work."
Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil, in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama's largesse towards Brazil came shortly after his political financial backer, George Soros, invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Pet rob ras). Tait Trussel writes, "The Pet rob ras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil, but it is a bad deal for the U. S. The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U S could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security and independence."
A blog you might want to keep an eye on is SorosWatch. com. Their mission: "This blog is dedicated to all who have suffered due to the ruthless financial pursuits of George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day be made to stop preying upon the world's poor, that justice will be served."
Back to America. Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago, news sources reported that "Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous."\\ In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, "Soros uses his philanthropy to change or more accurately deconstruct the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. His "open society" is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements."
Perhaps the most important of these "whistle blowers" are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book "The Shadow Party" outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel. Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years. The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which recently became the Obama Administration.
Discover The Networks.org (another good source) writes, "By his [Soros'] own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia , Croatia , Georgia , and Yugoslavia . When Soros targets a country for "regime change," he begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup."

November 2008 edition of the German magazine "Der Spiegel," in which Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U. S. ) should do after taking office. "I think we need a large stimulus package." Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right. Soros also said that "I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U. S. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights." Although Soros doesn't (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well.
Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars. According to an article by "The Baltimore Chronicle's" Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by "a veritable who's who of former Republican leaders," from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head and ex-President George Bush, Sr. In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton, Dick Cheney's old stomping grounds. When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time. In 2008, Soros donated $5,000,000,000 ( that’s Five Billion ) to the Democratic National Committee, DNC, to insure Obama's win and wins for many other Alinsky trained Radical Rules Anti-American Socialist. George has been contributing a $ billion plus to the DNC since Clinton came on the scene. Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren't bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA. And I mustn't forget to mention Soros’ involvement with the MSM (Main Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e. g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to. In short, George Soros controls or influences most of the MSM. Little wonder they ignore the TEA PARTY, Soro's NEMESIS.
As Matthew Vadum writes, "The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives." Richard Poe writes, "Soros' private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5 billion, continues undermining America’s traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments in social engineering."
Some of the many NGOs (Non-Government Organizations) that Soros funds with his billions are: MoveOn. org, the Apollo Alliance , Media Matters for America , the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In America ), La Raza, and many more. For a more complete list, with brief descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks. org.
Poe continues, "Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia." Without Soros' money, would the Saul Alinsky's Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government? Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals?
America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly attributable to Soros. Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously planned the ruination of America and his puppet, Barack Obama is leading the way. The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"-------------- Above information researched by CBS Steve Kroft

 

 

 



 

 

 




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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2012, 04:11:49 PM »

Our cleaner burning coal was put off limits by clinton, Hmmm I wonder why?

Must be a vast left wing conspiracy.
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2012, 05:33:50 PM »

Our cleaner burning coal was put off limits by clinton, Hmmm I wonder why?


Must be a vast left wing conspiracy.



so again because of your lack of knowledge on a subject u make critizing comments be it this or the Word of God.

http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1996_1385710/utah-wilderness-order-by-clinton-halts-plan-for-mi.html

also why did the clinton admin give billions to auto makers to develop electric and hybrid cars when a barrel of oil was under $30 and a gallon of regular was under $1.00?  what did they know and how did  they know that the price of oil is what it is today?
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 05:35:25 PM »

Kinda simplistic but we do it and really don't realize we are. 2funny Bend over and grab yer ankles. crazy2 RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2012, 06:17:43 PM »

also why did the clinton admin give billions to auto makers to develop electric and hybrid cars when a barrel of oil was under $30 and a gallon of regular was under $1.00?  what did they know and how did  they know that the price of oil is what it is today?

Because they were able to see what anyone else with two working eyes and a brain could see; that fossil fuels are a finite resource and combined with the third world's skyrocketing demand the price would increase accordingly.

But you keep right on thinking it was a vast left wing conspiracy. Because afterall, big oil is controlled by the left.  2funny
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2012, 06:22:38 PM »

also why did the clinton admin give billions to auto makers to develop electric and hybrid cars when a barrel of oil was under $30 and a gallon of regular was under $1.00?  what did they know and how did  they know that the price of oil is what it is today?

Must be ANOTHER vast left wing conspiracy.
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 05:01:44 AM »

also why did the clinton admin give billions to auto makers to develop electric and hybrid cars when a barrel of oil was under $30 and a gallon of regular was under $1.00?  what did they know and how did  they know that the price of oil is what it is today?


Because they were able to see what anyone else with two working eyes and a brain could see; that fossil fuels are a finite resource and combined with the third world's skyrocketing demand the price would increase accordingly.

But you keep right on thinking it was a vast left wing conspiracy. Because afterall, big oil is controlled by the left.  2funny


left wing conspiracy is something I never said. but if u think the fossil fuels are finite u have drunk the gallon of kool-aid. the coal and natural gas by themselves would last over 300 yrs, oil fields have been proven since the '80s to refill themselves, they are not a result of dead dino's, oil is a result of processes deep within the earth near the magna level. A little research instead of shooting off from your ------ as any good troll does would do wonders for u. climb out of your narrow mind thinking box and ignore the govt controlled news media.

see how much oil we have, just one example
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911


there are many more sites that provide facts like this. Can u handle the truth?? or are u just going to post another childish remark that has no value to society??

http://www.321energy.com/editorials/bainerman/bainerman083105.html
Actually, since the nineteenth century, knowledgeable physicists, chemists, thermodynamicists, and chemical engineers have regarded with grave reservations (if not outright disdain) the suggestion that highly reduced hydrocarbon molecules of high free enthalpy (the constituents of crude oil) might somehow evolve spontaneously from highly oxidized biogenic molecules of low free enthalpy. Beginning in 1964, Soviet scientists carried out extensive theoretical statistical thermodynamic analysis which established explicitly that the hypothesis of evolution of hydrocarbon molecules (except methane) from biogenic ones in the temperature and pressure regime of the Earth's near-surface crust was glaringly in violation of the second law of thermodynamics.

The theory of deep, abiotic petroleum origins is presently applied extensively throughout the former U.S.S.R. as the guiding perspective for petroleum exploration and development projects. There are presently more than 80 oil and gas fields in the Caspian district alone which were explored and developed by applying the perspective of the modern theory and which produce from the crystalline basement rock.

Says Dr. J.F. Kenney, a long-time research on the origins of hydrocarbons:

"For almost a century, various predictions have been made that the human race was imminently going to run out of available petroleum. The passing of time has proven all those predictions to have been utterly wrong. It is pointed out here how all such predictions have depended fundamentally upon an archaic hypothesis from the 18th century that petroleum somehow (miraculously) evolved from biological detritus, and was accordingly limited in abundance."

That hypothesis has been replaced during the past forty years by the modern Russian-Ukrainian theory of abyssal, abiotic petroleum origins which has established that petroleum is a primordial material erupted from great depth. Therefore, according to Kenney, petroleum abundances are limited by little more than the quantities of its constituents as were incorporated into the Earth at the time of its formation.

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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 08:54:33 AM »


http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Theory/SustainableOil/

http://www.rense.com/general63/refil.htm
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