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[shortleg]

  I amlooking at resideing my house with vinel backed with fome.
 After wraping the house.
   Wondering if you done this before ,what differance it made
inside simmer and winter.
           Shortleg[Dave]

[R J]

I put steel siding on my house about 20 years ago.     Can't tell if it helped or not as I only had one utility bill prior to doing the siding.   These houses in the plat, did not have an ounce of insulation in any wall except the one the garage attaches to the house.    It had to have a concrete drywall, wrapped and insulation put in between the studs.

Had a company come in, they drilled a hole top and bottom.

Stuck their hose in the bottom hole I think it was and when the foam came out the top they moved on to the next hole.    Each hole was the exact width of the studs in the wall.    If I remember right, the studs were 18" on center.   Piss poorly built house.

After they were done, I put foam sheets up, wrapped it all, I think that was the sequence, too long ago for this old fart to remember, could have been wrapped it and then the foam sheets, got the bottom row marked and, level and took off.

Once you get figured out where the bottom panel goes so ya come out exact on the top panel, and get it level.    You can add siding very very fast.   Had my son on the saw, making my end cuts.   What ever he had for a length on the say West end, he cut me another one exactly the same length for the East end to start with.    After a couple of boo-bo's, When I finished a row and say had a 24" piece, I started putting full length up and working back wards from the last row.   About the time we got done, I almost had it down to a pattern.

The siding is still on the house and looks like it was just put up maybe a year or 2 ago.

Steel is a little more expensive, but it will not blister in the hot sun, or wrinkle in the cold.    My neighbor put up vinyl siding 5 years ago, I helped him,  and he has had to replace several panels in the last 4 years.

Every 3rd spring I wash down all the siding with a foaming brush and water.  I'm fortunate to have a one story house with a hip roof.    Don't have to get on a ladder for the gables.  

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 I amlooking at resideing my house with vinel backed with fome.
 After wraping the house.
   Wondering if you done this before ,what differance it made
inside simmer and winter.
           Shortleg[Dave]

They did an old Church near here with vinyl. The put up foam sheets first, and
spent a bunch of time jiggering the foam boards around so that they were all
perfectly in the planes of the walls. It is the best vinyl siding job I think I have ever
seen, the butt joints of the vinyl pieces don't broadcast, I don't know how
close to the Church you'd have to get to even see that it is vinyl, I don't
think it looks like vinyl driving by. I didn't look close at the foam sheet
goods they used, I know of two kinds. Personally, I'd stay away from
that kind that looks like it is made out of "quickie-mart cooler" foam,
and use the denser blue or pink (maybe other colors?) kind, the inch
think kind is r5...

-Mike

[Stanley Steamer]

We had our house re-sided several years ago with vinyl siding.....they used a 1/2 foam board over the top of the old siding.....and then the new stuff.....my levelized electric bill is around $100/month for total electric......which is includes a small frig and a small chest freezer in a couple of my outbuildings....

[fudgie]

You talking sheets of foam or actually foam backed siding? Never seen foam backed vinyl but have seen it on aluminum. I think the foam board, 1/4" thick, only adds .5% R value. To me its not worth it.

[Stanley Steamer]

Ours was the foam sheets.....I think it was more for a flat surface for them to put the new stuff on more than insulation value

[Jess from VA]

In my (and I think your) area, they mostly use a thin (like 1/4") hard foam backer board with foil on one side to cover the lap siding before the vinyl goes on.   I like Tyvek house wrap, but my guys said they didn't use both, and the foam/foil backer adds like an R2 insulation factor to the finished product, as well as providing a level surface for the vinyl.  

For vinyl, I chose a dutch lap design (two grooves per sheet), with a minimal textured surface in it (sort of a brushed/satin finish).  Too much texture in the vinyl attracts and holds dirt, too little or none makes the siding look too shiny and plastic looking.  I used an off white, but many light tans and greys don't show as much dirt.  I use a bleach and soap solution, stick brush, and power washer once a year.

I have the name and number of one of the best siding contractors in NoVA if you want it.  He is a small one-man company with good help who sticks with one job at a time (a real craftsman).  Don't know if he'd come up to you but I could call him.  He gave me a list of 40 homes/addresses and  I drove around and looked and knocked on doors and he got a top rating from everyone i spoke to.  He also has the rolls of aluminum and bending machine to wrap all your brick molding on windows and doors, and puts in ventilated soffet on roof overhangs.  He replaced every window in my small house with Certainteed argon filled, thermoflect coaterd, double pane windows in ONE day, then the underlayment, siding, aluminum wrap, soffet, custom peak vent covers, vinyl shutters, and vinyl gutter covers in 4 days thereafter.  Whole job was $10K (2/3 for windows, 1/3 for siding) (15years ago): side contract for aluminum gutters out of the rolling machine was $225 more.

Before, I heard every car drive by my house, and a candle near a closed window would blow out on a windy day.  The windows were the biggest improvement, but altogether I have a very quiet and efficiently cooled and heated home.  I also had 36" of loose fiberglass insulation blown into my attic areas (too low for any storage in my house, so I filled it up).  After a heavy snow, after all my neighbors roofs are melted off, mine has snow remaining for days (cause very little heat is escaping).

[sugerbear]

we had ours resided a few years ago.  used vinyl no insulation. took the old siding off.

house  has insulation in the wall, covered with black board. siding over that.

gas/electric wen down about $50 month.

put new windows in, went down about $100 month. went from single pane  aluminum to double glass/vinyl.

avg now about $150 mo for both.

[Clark]

In my (and I think your) area, they mostly use a thin (like 1/4") hard foam backer board with foil on one side to cover the lap siding before the vinyl goes on.   I like Tyvek house wrap, but my guys said they didn't use both, and the foam/foil backer adds like an R2 insulation factor to the finished product, as well as providing a level surface for the vinyl.  

For vinyl, I chose a dutch lap design (two grooves per sheet), with a minimal textured surface in it (sort of a brushed/satin finish).  Too much texture in the vinyl attracts and holds dirt, too little or none makes the siding look too shiny and plastic looking.  I used an off white, but many light tans and greys don't show as much dirt.  I use a bleach and soap solution, stick brush, and power washer once a year.

I have the name and number of one of the best siding contractors in NoVA if you want it.  He is a small one-man company with good help who sticks with one job at a time (a real craftsman).  Don't know if he'd come up to you but I could call him.  He gave me a list of 40 homes/addresses and  I drove around and looked and knocked on doors and he got a top rating from everyone i spoke to.  He also has the rolls of aluminum and bending machine to wrap all your brick molding on windows and doors, and puts in ventilated soffet on roof overhangs.  He replaced every window in my small house with Certainteed argon filled, thermoflect coaterd, double pane windows in ONE day, then the underlayment, siding, aluminum wrap, soffet, custom peak vent covers, vinyl shutters, and vinyl gutter covers in 4 days thereafter.  Whole job was $10K (2/3 for windows, 1/3 for siding) (15years ago): side contract for aluminum gutters out of the rolling machine was $225 more.

Before, I heard every car drive by my house, and a candle near a closed window would blow out on a windy day.  The windows were the biggest improvement, but altogether I have a very quiet and efficiently cooled and heated home.  I also had 36" of loose fiberglass insulation blown into my attic areas (too low for any storage in my house, so I filled it up).  After a heavy snow, after all my neighbors roofs are melted off, mine has snow remaining for days (cause very little heat is escaping).

I dont know about his labor but I can pretty much guarantee ya that the price of aluminum has prolly at least tripled in 15 years. jus sayin

[Thespian]

 Did it for a living back in the day.
 Strip off the old siding for the best look. The level of insulation in you house will be the main factor on how to do the rest of the job.
PM me and I will lay out the options, depending on your situation.

[shortleg]

    Thank you all, I am changeing windows and
replaceing sideing. Both were done not to
anybodys standard when house was built.
  Am haveing both done and a slideing glass door done for 24K
That will include the removeal of old and house wrap and
fome under sideing.
    I know the company will get a few bucks for the old sideing
at the scrap yard.
                    Shortleg[Dave]