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« on: March 04, 2012, 10:48:40 AM » |
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Well, rather than fix my OEM fuel valve for the third time, I'm going to buy a pingel. It seems that most everyone buys the one without vacuum- does the pingel WITH Vacuum have problems?
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BonS
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2012, 10:52:45 AM » |
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Its really just about more/less moving parts and failure modes. A manual petcock simply has fewer.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2012, 11:00:44 AM » |
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I agree with that!
It's the vacuum parts that fail and the Pingel has been noted as having the same kind of problems.
The vacuum pulses are the damaging feature while necessary to activate the petcock.
A vacuum plenum is the answer to having a longer lived vacuum actuated petcock.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2012, 04:12:51 PM » |
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What do I do with the vacuum hose if getting the Pingel without the vacuum?
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salty1
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2012, 04:18:46 PM » |
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Cap the port off on the #6 carb just like it is on #5.
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BonS
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2012, 04:19:45 PM » |
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I'd just pull it off of the intake manifold, where it comes from, and cap the nipple. Cheap silicone caps can be found at auto parts stores and better ones from redeye.ecrater.com. |
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cajundood
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2012, 08:17:52 AM » |
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does anyone have a link to a decent fuel shutoff for the valk that doesn't cost a bundle. the pingels are pricey!  |
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Lastdragon
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2012, 09:12:13 AM » |
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does anyone have a link to a decent fuel shutoff for the valk that doesn't cost a bundle. the pingels are pricey! I'm about to find out. I ordered the Drag Specialities petcock 90 degree p/n DS-390219. http://www.dragspecialties.com/products/?lfr=product%2F74669 Haven't installed it yet, but will be doing the de-smog and installing the petcock and electric danmark shutoff valve in the next couple of weeks. I got the valve in the mail yesterday. Looks pretty nice. We'll see how it all works. This may be the wrong petcock it has the outlet on the aft side with the valve on the left of the bike as installed. Note: After review, I ordered the pingel 1311-CH. It has the outlet on the front. I got it at amazon.com and the price was $84.48 with free shipping. I guess I'll sell the Drag specialities maybe on e-bay. (Lesson learned trying to cut cost) |
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Ronnie Evans
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2012, 09:56:36 AM » |
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[I'm about to find out. I ordered the Drag Specialities petcock 90 degree p/n DS-390219. http://www.dragspecialties.com/products/?lfr=product%2F74669 Haven't installed it yet, but will be doing the de-smog and installing the petcock and electric danmark shutoff valve in the next couple of weeks. I got the valve in the mail yesterday. Looks pretty nice. We'll see how it all works. [/quote] Yeah the 90 degree part is important.........I bought the straight one..........MISTAKE! |
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2012, 10:41:21 AM » |
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I'm interested in how that goes. I need to do the same thing.
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cajundood
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2012, 01:18:53 PM » |
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$21.95.....yeah....THATS MORE LIKE IT!!!
Uhhhm......No online ordering???? WTH???
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2012, 02:22:29 PM » |
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found a chrome one on ebay for $25 shipped. just to be sure......22mm is the size i need? and must be a 90 degree left hand outlet?
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2012, 02:26:45 PM » |
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22mm is correct and with the lever on the left hand side, the 90* outlet should be pointing forward, towards the front wheel.  |
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Lastdragon
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2012, 06:00:06 PM » |
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I may have the wrong petcok. The with the lever on the left side of bike the outlet is on the back. Oops. See my message above. Hope nobody orders one with the outlet on the back like mine. Got the pingle 1311-CH on order now. Oh well.
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JetDriver
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2012, 06:09:22 PM » |
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I may have the wrong petcok. The with the lever on the left side of bike the outlet is on the back. Oops. See my message above. Hope nobody orders one with the outlet on the back like mine.
I would imagine with enough fuel line, you could make it work, but it's going to have to turn 180* Seems like it would be a potential fuel line kink, though.  |
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cajundood
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2012, 08:19:59 AM » |
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2012, 08:31:28 AM » |
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Work Ok but sure will have a very small reserve.
Going cheap is something I would not suggest regarding the fuel stopcock.
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BonS
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2012, 09:21:19 AM » |
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If you're redoing the plumbing I have to recommend MotionPro fuel lines (and mostly all of their premium products). I've never seen any fuel line tubing come close to this stuff. No it's not cheap. It really resists kinking, which is all too common on Valkyrie fuel line plumbing mods., and is very flexible and remains flexible seemingly forever. You can see it here: http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/12-0055/. It stretches easily over the petcock and makes putting it on and off really easy. But, you still need at least a very light fuel line clamp or it will eventually leak - don't ask. I have been using a very light, spring wire clamp and I can pull the hose off and push it on without messing with the clamp at all - and no leaks. |
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2012, 05:03:20 AM » |
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Just a suggestion here, when I convertd mine to the pingel adding the in-line fuel filter I had to pick up more hose clamps. The auto parts store had a package of clamps with plastic thumb tabs on the screw portion . It sure makes it easier for future tank removals. Depending on how it is pointed it will not interfer when operating the shut off valve. |
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Lastdragon
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2012, 06:27:05 PM » |
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Well I finished the de-smog and the replacement of the stock vacuum fuel shut-off with the non vacuum pingel and dan marc electric shut off. Everything went great and it runs great with no leaks so it seems like a success. Here are some pictures. De-Smog items removed .jpg) XF6 Design De-smog plug installed - nice .jpg) Bottom De-Smog block off plate .jpg) Dan Marc wired into accessory wireing .jpg) Dan Marc installed, ready to install tank .jpg) Another De-Smog plug left side .jpg) Grounded Dan Marc at coil bracket .jpg) Pingel installed .jpg) |
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JetDriver
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2012, 08:39:34 PM » |
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Thanks for the pics- looks good!
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salty1
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2012, 08:00:55 PM » |
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+1, Enjoyed seeing your work!  |
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2012, 06:37:37 AM » |
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OMG... ??? Thats a lot of parts to remove to desmog. I was gonna do it, but i thought it just involved blocking off the vaccuum line. i just found this nice chrome manual petcock on ebay for $29. My oem has been broke for some time now. (its stuck on reserve) so i need to get this thing on. i should simply be able to block off the vaccuum line correct???  |
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2012, 09:30:49 AM » |
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That ought to work. You will need to block off the vacuum line or preferably remove it and cap the vacuum fitting where you removed it from the intake tube. With the manual shutoff and no electric valve installed you need to remember to shut the valve off when you kill the engine, especially overnight.
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2012, 10:35:25 AM » |
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Great pics. I just finished the de-smog on my 97 valk. funny thing though--my box of "old" parts look s a lot messier then yours.  Jerry |
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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2012, 03:32:25 PM » |
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OMG... ??? Thats a lot of parts to remove to desmog. I was gonna do it, but i thought it just involved blocking off the vaccuum line. i just found this nice chrome manual petcock on ebay for $29. My oem has been broke for some time now. (its stuck on reserve) so i need to get this thing on. i should simply be able to block off the vaccuum line correct??? That's going to be an awfully long reach under the tank to get to it. Unless you're going to turn it around and add a big loop to your fuel line? |
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2012, 07:18:43 AM » |
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OMG... ??? Thats a lot of parts to remove to desmog. I was gonna do it, but i thought it just involved blocking off the vaccuum line. i just found this nice chrome manual petcock on ebay for $29. My oem has been broke for some time now. (its stuck on reserve) so i need to get this thing on. i should simply be able to block off the vaccuum line correct??? That's going to be an awfully long reach under the tank to get to it. Unless you're going to turn it around and add a big loop to your fuel line? ???? This replaces the oem perfectly. left side output just like the original. |
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2012, 12:03:46 PM » |
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With the oem petcock and levers gone it is not hard to reach your left under to tun it on or off or to reserve, even on the fly, unless you have huge hands. Hoser
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2012, 12:49:12 PM » |
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With the oem petcock and levers gone it is not hard to reach your left under to tun it on or off or to reserve, even on the fly, unless you have huge hands. Hoser
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