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bigguy
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« on: March 14, 2012, 08:12:27 AM »

I run a little board for a local group of riders. It's got a total of 23 members, about 4 of whom are active. As small and innocuous as this little board is, I've had to go to admin conformation on registration because even with CAPTCHA I still get 10 to 15 bogus pre-registrations per day. Checking the IP addresses, I see about half of them are from China, the rest come from Japan, some Scandinavian countries, and a very few from the US. The reasons given for wanting to join vary from a random list of letters to computer interpreted phrases such as these:
Admin, Im...want make a purchase
want chat
mmm want searching info
just...want interesting info
mmm..want interested
so want reading board
Admin, Im...want interested
Admin, Im...need reading
..want searching info
well..look for chat

Every time I get one of these, I block a 254 IP range of addresses using a "deny from" statement in my htaccess file, based on the address from the offending request. I've got about 600 entries so far. That's more than 152,000 individual IP addresses. Yet the volume of crap has yet to slow.
I get a real kick out of reading about how we're desperate to migrate to IPV6 because we're running out of IPV4 addresses. I'm thinkiong maybe we just need to thin the herd.
We had a saying back in Gillett Arkansas:
"It takes all kinds, but there's some kinds I could do without."

Thanks for listening to my rant. I feel a little better now.
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Jack
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Benton, Arkansas


« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 08:20:23 AM »

Gilett, Arkansas:  home of the Coon Supper!
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bigguy
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 08:24:42 AM »

Gilett, Arkansas:  home of the Coon Supper!

Indeed it is. I even served coon there a couple of years to then Governor William Jefferson Clinton as a member of the Farmers and Business mens club. We also served ham for those who couldn't bring themselves to try the coon. Can't recall which the future/former prez selected. Did you ever make one?
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Moonshot_1
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Me and my Valk at Freedom Rock


« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 08:39:40 AM »

I run a little board for a local group of riders. It's got a total of 23 members, about 4 of whom are active. As small and innocuous as this little board is, I've had to go to admin conformation on registration because even with CAPTCHA I still get 10 to 15 bogus pre-registrations per day. Checking the IP addresses, I see about half of them are from China, the rest come from Japan, some Scandinavian countries, and a very few from the US. The reasons given for wanting to join vary from a random list of letters to computer interpreted phrases such as these:
Admin, Im...want make a purchase
want chat
mmm want searching info
just...want interesting info
mmm..want interested
so want reading board
Admin, Im...want interested
Admin, Im...need reading
..want searching info
well..look for chat

Every time I get one of these, I block a 254 IP range of addresses using a "deny from" statement in my htaccess file, based on the address from the offending request. I've got about 600 entries so far. That's more than 152,000 individual IP addresses. Yet the volume of crap has yet to slow.
I get a real kick out of reading about how we're desperate to migrate to IPV6 because we're running out of IPV4 addresses. I'm thinkiong maybe we just need to thin the herd.
We had a saying back in Gillett Arkansas:
"It takes all kinds, but there's some kinds I could do without."

Thanks for listening to my rant. I feel a little better now.


 My Father was King of Scamovia and as you may know, was killed in our war torn land. I am looking for a trusted friend to help handle my Father's vast fortune....
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Willow
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Excessive comfort breeds weakness. PttP

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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 09:04:16 AM »

We use stopforumspam.com to weed out the bulk of the spammers.  I reject every request from mainland China.  I feel badly for that if we really do have a Valkyrie rider or two in China, but most of the bogus names and email addresses are recognizable as such.

It surprises me how many apply using an invalid email address.

We currently have almost fifty on the list that either haven't bothered to activate or weren't serious in the first place.  I remove requests after two months.

We've been pretty successful at keeping out the trash.  I can't help but wonder if we've missed out on some legitimate members in the process.
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bigguy
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 09:14:54 AM »

Thanks for info Willow. I'll check out stopforumspam.com.
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ptgb
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Youngstown, OH


« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2012, 09:16:30 AM »

We've been pretty successful at keeping out the trash.


Well, I made it in!

And by the way...

楊柳吃炒麵和嚎叫在月球     2funny


If your interested: http://translate.google.com/

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bigguy
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2012, 09:20:04 AM »

楊柳吃炒麵和嚎叫在月球     2funny

 2funny Good one.
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Willow
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Excessive comfort breeds weakness. PttP

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 09:21:17 AM »

We've been pretty successful at keeping out the trash.
Well, I made it in!

And by the way...

楊柳吃炒麵和嚎叫在月球     2funny


If your interested: http://translate.google.com/


Obviously we weren't 100% successful.  

 2funny

Noodles, you say?
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Bob E.
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Canonsburg, PA


« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 09:39:29 AM »

楊柳吃炒麵和嚎叫在月球     2funny

You want steamed rice or fried rice with that??  uglystupid2
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czuch
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vail az


« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 09:51:17 AM »

Prefer seafood delight.
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Jess Tolbirt
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White Bluff, Tn.


« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 10:06:31 AM »

i too run a small board with 12 active members,,i have it set up to where I have to approve them,,i send them a form email asking what thier name isand simply reply,,,no answer in 2 days they get deleted,,,about at least 50 per day..
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Scott in Ok
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 01:05:36 PM »

Consider yourself lucky.  We were getting 100's per day.  Its been a tough and frustrating journey to where we are today, to say the least.  We now get a few per day that get past our first line of defense.  The second line of defense catches those.

I'm not sure what forum software you use, but if there is a plugin/mod/extension for StopForumSpam for your board, install it.  It will help you identify the bad guys as they register.  Thats our second line of defense.  First line of defense is a script installed on the server that rejects almost all the bad guys before they can enter.  We've had some false positives we've had to work through which required some modification of the script, but so far its worked well.  PM me if you would like some info.

-Scott


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DFragn
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 01:39:50 PM »

I emailed you an htaccess file to remedy your issues.
It's too large to post here [3,800 lines]

It will do what you need sans constant monitoring & editing foreign IP's to manually block.
You can remove your foreign blocks you have if you want or just precede them with a # to disable them.
I guarantee you'll have no more foreign issues using this.
No Charge to you. Use as you wish...

This is only the first few lines. Make sure you get it all & that you received 100% to the last line = </Limit>

<files .htaccess>
order allow,deny
deny from all
</files>
<Limit GET POST>
order deny,allow
# Country: UNITED STATES
# ISO Code: US
# Total Networks: 40,747
# Total Subnets:  1,539,114,880
Allow from w3.org htmlhelp.com googlebot.com --->Error I forgot to clean this line up completely in the email. Delete it entirely. You should leave the "Allow from googlebot.com" in there to keep the site searchable.
allow from 3.0.0.0/8
allow from 4.0.0.0/8
allow from 6.0.0.0/8
allow from 7.0.0.0/8
allow from 8.0.0.0/8
allow from 9.0.0.0/8
allow from 11.0.0.0/8
allow from 12.0.0.0/8
allow from 13.0.0.0/8

If the email file I sent doesn't end with </Limit> then it did not transmit completely and/or your email service limited the file.
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