Sandra Fluke

[Wizzard]

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>             Many of you have likely seen the heart rending testimony of Ms. Sandra Fluke, a law student at Georgetown University, before a Congressional Committee this week. She was lamenting that no one would subsidize her birth control expenses, which she claimed would amount to $3000 during her three years in law school.
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>             After watching Ms. Fluke describe her desperate situation I set to thinking of ways to help her out of her crisis.
>             First, of course I had to pass through the grieving period I experienced after hearing of her inhumane treatment at the hands of the Georgetown administration and our Government – what cruelty lurks in the heart of men that they would leave this poor woman to fend for herself when all she wanted to do was get laid seven times a day (see my analysis below).
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>             Once I recovered from my grief, I set to thinking about ways to help this poor girl. Being a Physicist, I sat down with my calculator and worked through some numbers.
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>             Ms. Fluke’s expense account for birth control (aka sexual entertainment) was claimed to be $3000 for three years at law school. Let’s presume that as an educated woman she wants to be doubly safe and uses both birth control pills to prevent pregnancy and condoms to prevent STD (sexually transmitted disease).
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>             Using the Wal-Mart cost for birth control pills of $9 per month, her birth control pills will cost her $324 for her entire law school career (if you can call it a career – I can think of other names). This leaves only $2676 for her condoms.
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>             I went to Amazon.com, and found quality condoms available for 33 cents each in packages of 60 condoms each. This cost includes tax and shipping. Since she has $2676 for her 33 cent condoms, she will be buying 8109 condoms during her law school “career”.
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>             To use her 8109 condoms (remember, $3000 was Ms. Flukes’ own number) she would have to have sex 7 times a day. This number presumes that she has sex ten times a day on Sundays when she has more free time.
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>             So, having worked through these numbers, I have some suggestions  for Ms. Fluke to help her work through her crisis:
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>               1. Find dates that are gentlemanly enough to either provide
>               their own condoms, or at least split the cost with her. Selection
>               criteria is the key to this one.
>               2. Spend more time studying. Even seven “quickies” a day will
>               seriously cut into quality study time. This would not only save
>               money but would improve her education as well.
>               3. Seek funding from the EPA from one of their Wetlands
>               Protection programs – surely Ms. Flukes’ nether regions would
>               qualify as wetlands given sex seven times a day.
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>             Just trying to help out a starving student.
>             By the way, the average starting salary of new Georgetown Law School graduates is $160,000 a year, FYI.

Maybe I can raise some money for her on a valk ride. (now its valk related)

[The Anvil]

Welcome to last month.

[Oss]

where the hell was she when i was in law school?

actually it is the opposite of goin where no man has gone before

I would pass then and now

[Chattanooga Mark]

I have a few questions:

How many condoms does $3,000+ get you every month?

How does/did she ever have time to actually go to class with all the need for that much birth control? 

Why does she expect everyone else to pay for her 'habit'?


Maybe Savage is right, liberalism really must be a mental disorder.

Mark

[SANDMAN5]

liberalism really must be a mental disorder.

 

[G-Man]

liberalism really must be a mental disorder.

 

  

[Bob E.]

Whether birth control pills should or should not be fully covered under prescription drug coverage rather than have a co-pay like other meds is certainly a debatable topic.  However, considering the bulk of Fluke's testimony had little (if anything) to do with having sex, but rather an account of her friend who needed birth control pills to treat a medical problem but couldn't get them so her condition became extremely serious (the point being that bc pills are used for alot more than preventing pregnancy), I'm guessing you guys didn't actually see her testimony??   

And condoms...really?  They work great when used properly.  But the failure rate due to improper use (primarily due to leakage or spillage) is not something I'd want to count on if I was a female being worked over by an overanxious, inexperienced frat boy that had too much to drink and has been carrying that condom in his pocket for the past few months.

[The Anvil]

But the failure rate due to improper use (primarily due to leakage or spillage) is not something I'd want to count on if I was a female being worked over by an overanxious, inexperienced frat boy that had too much to drink and has been carrying that condom in his pocket for the past few months.

Well maybe she should be getting herself "worked over" by a frat boy...

Unless of course that "frat boy" is me. You see where this is going...

[G-Man]

Whether birth control pills should or should not be fully covered under prescription drug coverage rather than have a co-pay like other meds is certainly a debatable topic.  However, considering the bulk of Fluke's testimony had little (if anything) to do with having sex, but rather an account of her friend who needed birth control pills to treat a medical problem but couldn't get them so her condition became extremely serious (the point being that bc pills are used for alot more than preventing pregnancy), I'm guessing you guys didn't actually see her testimony??   

And condoms...really?  They work great when used properly.  But the failure rate due to improper use (primarily due to leakage or spillage) is not something I'd want to count on if I was a female being worked over by an overanxious, inexperienced frat boy that had too much to drink and has been carrying that condom in his pocket for the past few months.

Medication for a legit medical problem has always been covered by medical insurance, or prescription coverage.  Hormone replacement therapy has been written for by docs for dozens of years for women who have medical conditions for which they are appropriate.  But that doesn't fit some people's agenda so they make it about women's health.  This is not.  It's about a choice between which birth control she wants to use and who will pay for it.

If you were a female being overworked by an overanxious, inexperienced frat boy that had too much to drink, then you should be looking at yourself for the terrific choices that you made in order to put yourself in that circumstance, or to your parents for not teaching you about life before sending you away to school or letting you go to that party where there is underage drinking.

Choices and personal responsibility.  This is what it comes down to, but this administration and the democratic party in general want to strip everyone of personal responsibility and choices.  That's what Obamacare is all about.  16,000 IRS agents to go after you and "tax", um,,,,"penalize", um, I mean,..."tax", no wait...... and the take over of student loans, etc.  All ways by which you are in bed with the government so you have fewer choices and responsibility.

[The Anvil]

If you were a female being overworked by an overanxious, inexperienced frat boy that had too much to drink, then you should be looking at yourself for the terrific choices that you made in order to put yourself in that circumstance, or to your parents for not teaching you about life before sending you away to school or letting you go to that party where there is underage drinking.

What about the frat boy's decisions? It takes two make babbies you know. Funny how the one with the penis conveniently avoids scrutiny.

[PAVALKER]

Maybe her selection of sexual partners was not that great.... and like some that have used or heard the term "double bagger", she wanted double or triple coverage.....

[The Anvil]

Maybe her selection of sexual partners was not that great.... and like some that have used or heard the term "double bagger", she wanted double or triple coverage.....

"She's what you call a three-bagger. A bag for you, a bag for her and a bag for any unfortunate person who happens to stumble into it." - Lt. Jim Dangle

[The Anvil]

She could buy one of those do dads with a wired remote she could put the remote in her pocket and the other part where ever it feels best and presto

Look, just because you like to grind your weiner up against the counter at Subway doesn't mean that everyone feels the need to rub one out while in public. 

[macdoesit]

She could buy one of those do dads with a wired remote she could put the remote in her pocket and the other part where ever it feels best and presto

Look, just because you like to grind your weiner up against the counter at Subway doesn't mean that everyone feels the need to rub one out while in public. 

Hmm, you seem to be quite knowlegable in that area must be a Subway close to you with a worn counter top edge

[The Anvil]

She could buy one of those do dads with a wired remote she could put the remote in her pocket and the other part where ever it feels best and presto

Look, just because you like to grind your weiner up against the counter at Subway doesn't mean that everyone feels the need to rub one out while in public. 

Hmm, you seem to be quite knowlegable in that area must be a Subway close to you with a worn counter top edge

I ain't saying there is and I ain't saying there isn't.

[98valk]

I think she is trying to best Wilt's record of 25k

[MP]

Whether birth control pills should or should not be fully covered under prescription drug coverage rather than have a co-pay like other meds is certainly a debatable topic.  However, considering the bulk of Fluke's testimony had little (if anything) to do with having sex, but rather an account of her friend who needed birth control pills to treat a medical problem but couldn't get them so her condition became extremely serious (the point being that bc pills are used for alot more than preventing pregnancy), I'm guessing you guys didn't actually see her testimony??   

And condoms...really?  They work great when used properly.  But the failure rate due to improper use (primarily due to leakage or spillage) is not something I'd want to count on if I was a female being worked over by an overanxious, inexperienced frat boy that had too much to drink and has been carrying that condom in his pocket for the past few months.

When used for medical treatment, they are not birth control pills.  Those meds for medical conditions were covered before, and would be afterwards.  To inject them into the debate is to lie about what would happen.

MP

[John Schmidt]

Aaww c'mon, y'all missed the big one......

It's spelled "babies"....with one "b"....not "babbies."

As has been stated before......"just sayin'."   

[The Anvil]

Aaww c'mon, y'all missed the big one......

It's spelled "babies"....with one "b"....not "babbies."

As has been stated before......"just sayin'."   

I like "babbies" better.

[Bob E.]

Whether birth control pills should or should not be fully covered under prescription drug coverage rather than have a co-pay like other meds is certainly a debatable topic.  However, considering the bulk of Fluke's testimony had little (if anything) to do with having sex, but rather an account of her friend who needed birth control pills to treat a medical problem but couldn't get them so her condition became extremely serious (the point being that bc pills are used for alot more than preventing pregnancy), I'm guessing you guys didn't actually see her testimony??   

And condoms...really?  They work great when used properly.  But the failure rate due to improper use (primarily due to leakage or spillage) is not something I'd want to count on if I was a female being worked over by an overanxious, inexperienced frat boy that had too much to drink and has been carrying that condom in his pocket for the past few months.

When used for medical treatment, they are not birth control pills.  Those meds for medical conditions were covered before, and would be afterwards.  To inject them into the debate is to lie about what would happen.

MP

That's the point, they weren't covered before through insurance offered at some catholic universities...like where Ms Fluke attended.  Like I said, I agree that whether they should be covered and to what degree is certainly debatable, and I'm not arguing that position here.  However, the issue at the point of Ms Fluke's testimony was that her friend needed the medication for an issue other than birth control and was unable to get it because she was attending a catholic university that wouldn't give them to her, even for a non-sexual need.  I presume they had insurance through the university since they were grad students and beyond the age of being covered under their parent's coverage.  So to slander her with disparaging remarks, saying she said some rather disgusting things that she never said, is quite reprehensible.

[John Schmidt]

Aaww c'mon, y'all missed the big one......

It's spelled "babies"....with one "b"....not "babbies."

As has been stated before......"just sayin'."   

I like "babbies" better.

Me too.....it's original. 

[MP]

Whether birth control pills should or should not be fully covered under prescription drug coverage rather than have a co-pay like other meds is certainly a debatable topic.  However, considering the bulk of Fluke's testimony had little (if anything) to do with having sex, but rather an account of her friend who needed birth control pills to treat a medical problem but couldn't get them so her condition became extremely serious (the point being that bc pills are used for alot more than preventing pregnancy), I'm guessing you guys didn't actually see her testimony??   

And condoms...really?  They work great when used properly.  But the failure rate due to improper use (primarily due to leakage or spillage) is not something I'd want to count on if I was a female being worked over by an overanxious, inexperienced frat boy that had too much to drink and has been carrying that condom in his pocket for the past few months.

When used for medical treatment, they are not birth control pills.  Those meds for medical conditions were covered before, and would be afterwards.  To inject them into the debate is to lie about what would happen.

MP

That's the point, they weren't covered before through insurance offered at some catholic universities...like where Ms Fluke attended.  Like I said, I agree that whether they should be covered and to what degree is certainly debatable, and I'm not arguing that position here.  However, the issue at the point of Ms Fluke's testimony was that her friend needed the medication for an issue other than birth control and was unable to get it because she was attending a catholic university that wouldn't give them to her, even for a non-sexual need.  I presume they had insurance through the university since they were grad students and beyond the age of being covered under their parent's coverage.  So to slander her with disparaging remarks, saying she said some rather disgusting things that she never said, is quite reprehensible.

Bob:

Where did I slander her?  What disparaging remarks?  Saying disgusting things?  Did you read my statement?  I said NONE of what you say I did.  I did not even reference her.  All I said was they are covered as medicine, not birth control.  Please, learn to read.

MP

[Bob E.]

Whether birth control pills should or should not be fully covered under prescription drug coverage rather than have a co-pay like other meds is certainly a debatable topic.  However, considering the bulk of Fluke's testimony had little (if anything) to do with having sex, but rather an account of her friend who needed birth control pills to treat a medical problem but couldn't get them so her condition became extremely serious (the point being that bc pills are used for alot more than preventing pregnancy), I'm guessing you guys didn't actually see her testimony??   

And condoms...really?  They work great when used properly.  But the failure rate due to improper use (primarily due to leakage or spillage) is not something I'd want to count on if I was a female being worked over by an overanxious, inexperienced frat boy that had too much to drink and has been carrying that condom in his pocket for the past few months.

When used for medical treatment, they are not birth control pills.  Those meds for medical conditions were covered before, and would be afterwards.  To inject them into the debate is to lie about what would happen.

MP

That's the point, they weren't covered before through insurance offered at some catholic universities...like where Ms Fluke attended.  Like I said, I agree that whether they should be covered and to what degree is certainly debatable, and I'm not arguing that position here.  However, the issue at the point of Ms Fluke's testimony was that her friend needed the medication for an issue other than birth control and was unable to get it because she was attending a catholic university that wouldn't give them to her, even for a non-sexual need.  I presume they had insurance through the university since they were grad students and beyond the age of being covered under their parent's coverage.  So to slander her with disparaging remarks, saying she said some rather disgusting things that she never said, is quite reprehensible.

Bob:

Where did I slander her?  What disparaging remarks?  Saying disgusting things?  Did you read my statement?  I said NONE of what you say I did.  I did not even reference her.  All I said was they are covered as medicine, not birth control.  Please, learn to read.

MP

You are right...you didn't.  I was referring to the original poster...and a couple who followed and agreed.  I read just fine, sir.

[G-Man]

But why should an institution of learning, that one is not a staff member of, provide health care coverage? I attended college and graduate school and we didn't have healthcare coverage provided by the school.  If it was/is offered at schools, it is surely not mandatory and a choice made by the student to get health insurance through the school for an added fee to the tuition I'm sure.  And, since it IS a choice to by health insurance through a school (if offered at all), then Ms. Fluke's "friend" could have chosen to get health insurance elsewhere, where the specific coverage she desires is offered.

Nope, we should ALL pay so Ms. Fluke and her "friend" could have a worry free sex life and not have to worry about having, or even using, those awful condom thingies.  "Ewwwww, do I really have to touch that thing?"