me, me, me, I, I, I, mine, mine, mine, nice of him to share

[musclehead]

Hubris (hu·bris), also hybris, means extreme haughtiness, pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.

George W. Bush speech after capture of Saddam Hussein:
The success of yesterday's mission is a tribute to our men and women now serving in Iraq .
The operation was based on the superb work of intelligence analysts who found the Dictator’s footprints in a vast country. The operation was carried out with skill and precision by a brave fighting force. Our servicemen and women and our coalition allies have faced many dangers in the hunt for members of the fallen regime, and in their effort to bring hope and freedom to the Iraqi people. Their work continues, and so do the risks. Today, on behalf of the nation, I thank the members of our Armed Forces and I congratulate them.



Barack Hussein Obama speech, Sunday, May 1, 2011:
And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as I continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.


Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by my intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan . And finally, last week, I determined that I had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad , Pakistan.


well he DID say 'we' and 'our' once.

[DIGGER]

soon as he does away with our guns, and then the Constitution, and term limitations, he will then REALLY be arrogant.

[The Anvil]

What piece of viral email did you get this from MH? Read a little further...

FULL transcript (not just a chunk taken out of context) with video where he spreads around plenty of credit.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead

I expect better from you MH. Again, if you want to criticize the President on real issues then please by all means. Lord know there's enough to keep us busy. But please come correct.

[Hoser]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.     Hoser

[The Anvil]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.     Hoser

I'm not sure what that has to do with this...

[Gear Jammer]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.     Hoser

and hopefully they'll shove it right down his skinny throat    GJ

[Hoser]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.     Hoser

I'm not sure what that has to do with this...

It's about hubris from the potus, never being wrong about anything?  Kinda like some folks on here......    Hoser

[Gear Jammer]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.     Hoser

I'm not sure what that has to do with this...

It's about hubris from the potus, never being wrong about anything?  Kinda like some folks on here......    Hoser

       

[Gangman036]

MH...............

How hard did you jerk that line to set the hook??

[alph]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.     Hoser

NO LIE!!  what an arrogant P.O.S. to think he can threaten our judicial system when it comes to ruling in his favor. 

i can't believe i'm going to say this, but, i'd take bill clitton over this jerk!!  at least when clitton through a tissy he just shut down the government, obammer goes after our freedoms!!

[junior]

i knew it was a mistake right from the get go............. he is looking to gain revenge for what the americans did to his people (both black and iranian)  why dont we just vote in some of the hitler youths for 2012 

[alph]

i knew it was a mistake right from the get go............. he is looking to gain revenge for what the americans did to his people (both black and iranian)  why dont we just vote in some of the hitler youths for 2012 

at least hitler youths loved their country!!!  plus they wouldn't marry a woman that has never been proud to be american.

[x]

[Bob E.]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.     Hoser

Seriously??  Talk about hypocrisy.  How many times have Republicans criticized the SCOTUS??  They do it all the time...complaining about activist judges and courts.  Hell, Gingrich even said he would send federal marshals to drag the justices to answer for any decision he didn't agree with. Face The Nation with Bob Schieffer - Gingrich: Congress can ignore federal judges (External Embedding Disabled)

Gimme a break!!

[The Anvil]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.     Hoser

Seriously??  Talk about hypocrisy. 

Oh no, we don't do that here

[Hoser]

For your information, I am not in favor of that kind of behavior from either side, so you can keep your name calling to yourselves. Don't get yer panties in a bunch, boys.    Hoser

[musclehead]

What piece of viral email did you get this from MH? Read a little further...

FULL transcript (not just a chunk taken out of context) with video where he spreads around plenty of credit.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead

I expect better from you MH. Again, if you want to criticize the President on real issues then please by all means. Lord know there's enough to keep us busy. But please come correct.

hey! I gotta occasionally throw one out there just to maintain my right-wing-kook status 

[musclehead]

MH...............

How hard did you jerk that line to set the hook??

I got an easy touch, now reeling him in    I learned my lesson hooking rainbow trout 

[The Anvil]

What piece of viral email did you get this from MH? Read a little further...

FULL transcript (not just a chunk taken out of context) with video where he spreads around plenty of credit.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead

I expect better from you MH. Again, if you want to criticize the President on real issues then please by all means. Lord know there's enough to keep us busy. But please come correct.

hey! I gotta occasionally throw one out there just to maintain my right-wing-kook status 

Haha, I maintained my bedwetting liberal status by posting a link to a NYT article earlier.

[Bob E.]

For your information, I am not in favor of that kind of behavior from either side, so you can keep your name calling to yourselves. Don't get yer panties in a bunch, boys.    Hoser

Who called you a name??

Also, you might say now that you aren't in favor of criticizism of the court by either side, but your, and the republicans in general, silence when republicans criticize the court implies that you are in favor of it when it supports your position.  And therein lies the hypocrisy.

And lets never mind the fact that if you actually listen to the words Obama said, he never directly addressed the court, but did address conservative pundits who continually complain about judicial activism and lack of judicial restraint...with the implication that the court overturning the mandate would be exactly that given the history of the court's rulings on economic legislation passed by congress.

[The Anvil]

For your information, I am not in favor of that kind of behavior from either side, so you can keep your name calling to yourselves. Don't get yer panties in a bunch, boys.    Hoser

Who called you a name??

Also, you might say now that you aren't in favor of criticizism of the court by either side, but your, and the republicans in general, silence when republicans criticize the court implies that you are in favor of it when it supports your position.  And therein lies the hypocrisy.

And lets never mind the fact that if you actually listen to the words Obama said, he never directly addressed the court, but did address conservative pundits who continually complain about judicial activism and lack of judicial restraint...with the implication that the court overturning the mandate would be exactly that given the history of the court's rulings on economic legislation passed by congress.

He never questioned their "authority" either.

"I am confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected Congress, and I just remind conservative commentators that for years, what we've heard is, the biggest problem on the bench was judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint, that an unelected group of people would somehow overturn a dually constituted and passed law."

He happens to be correct. Judges are appointed, not elected. You can take that remark as a shot across their bow if it makes you feel better. He's also right about pundits (and in fact, politicians and other judges) who've bitched about judicial activism circumventing the will of the people. Now that the shoe is on the other hand they're gonna take the other road and whine that the people are stupid and that the SC needs to correct them. It's hypocritical.

[G-Man]

i knew it was a mistake right from the get go............. he is looking to gain revenge for what the americans did to his people (both black and iranian)  why dont we just vote in some of the hitler youths for 2012 

Why does some idiot ALWAYS have to make this about race (or some other explosive crap)?  Nevermind, I already know.  It is the same M.O. used from the very top on down to the lowest of the lows posting on here.  They can't argue the point of the topic so they interject the grenade to make your attention go elsewhere. 

I'm calling you out, Junior. 

[Hoser]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.    Hoser

Seriously??  Talk about hypocrisy.  

Oh no, we don't do that here

  In answer to Bob e's last post.  I think a bit of name calling here, perhaps about myself being a hypocrite?  Don't worry I've been called worse.  Hoser  

[The Anvil]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.    Hoser

Seriously??  Talk about hypocrisy.  

Oh no, we don't do that here

  In answer to Bob e's last post.  I think a bit of name calling here, perhaps about myself being a hypocrite?  Don't worry I've been called worse.  Hoser  

Hoser, Bob didn't actually call you a "hypocrite". He said: "Talk about hypocrisy". I'm willing to bet that every single one of us has said or done something hypocritical at one time or another in our lives. To call someone a "hypocrite" is to suggest that they make a regular habit of it. I don't think anyone here is saying that about you.

[Hoser]

Yuh see, I don't agree with any side trying to intimidate the court system,  "More than you can chew" refers to judges being human, but having the power to make you pay if you pi$$
them off.  I think it's a fools game, from either side.  They should make thier decisions based on solid constitutional principles, not on which side pi$$ed them off the least.  I think in most cases they do.  But why take the chance, they are human.  They should not base thier decisions on which side they agree with, but as I said above, what the constitutions says.  Hoser    Oh, and a little hipocrisy is kinda fun once in a while.

[The Anvil]

Yuh see, I don't agree with any side trying to intimidate the court system,  "More than you can chew" refers to judges being human, but having the power to make you pay if you pi$$
them off.  I think it's a fools game, from either side.  They should make thier decisions based on solid constitutional principles, not on which side pi$$ed them off the least.  I think in most cases they do.  But why take the chance, they are human.  They should not base thier decisions on which side they agree with, but as I said above, what the constitutions says.  Hoser    Oh, and a little hipocrisy is kinda fun once in a while.

Well I agree that what the President said wasn't "smart".

[Hoser]

I pi$$ed off a traffic judge and a highway patrolman once, it was not pretty!     Hoser

[Robert]

What I find interesting is the courts have lately been going against the peoples decisions. A small example is the gay agenda, trashing what people voted in and exhibiting Judicial activism for quite awhile now. We all have seen and experienced it, and there was not one cry against it, not one champion that would carry the cause in government. Yet when Obama may not get way then he cry's and manipulates like a little girl. Why do the courts and people even pay any mind to this when they never have even when all the people complained they basically said tuff luck. I am so pissed The courts should be fair and decide on the constitutionality of the thing not give difference to the whim of the administration, if they do then the courts are not the fair and legal system we have come to expect but another police agency enforcing government policy.

[musclehead]

What piece of viral email did you get this from MH? Read a little further...

FULL transcript (not just a chunk taken out of context) with video where he spreads around plenty of credit.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead

I expect better from you MH. Again, if you want to criticize the President on real issues then please by all means. Lord know there's enough to keep us busy. But please come correct.

hey! I gotta occasionally throw one out there just to maintain my right-wing-kook status 

Haha, I maintained my bedwetting liberal status by posting a link to a NYT article earlier.

BEDWETTING? don't ask don't tell applies here! 

[musclehead]

Yuh see, I don't agree with any side trying to intimidate the court system,  "More than you can chew" refers to judges being human, but having the power to make you pay if you pi$$
them off.  I think it's a fools game, from either side.  They should make thier decisions based on solid constitutional principles, not on which side pi$$ed them off the least.  I think in most cases they do.  But why take the chance, they are human.  They should not base thier decisions on which side they agree with, but as I said above, what the constitutions says.  Hoser    Oh, and a little hipocrisy is kinda fun once in a while.

if 'Obama care' was being decided STRICTLY on it's constituitional merits what do you think the outcome would be?  8-1? 7-2?  9-0  it doesn't cut the mustard the arguements have shown that.

[Bob E.]

How about critisizing the supreme court and questioning thier right to decide what is and is not constutional before they even make a decision?  He may have bitten off more than he can chew on that one.    Hoser

Seriously??  Talk about hypocrisy.  

Oh no, we don't do that here

  In answer to Bob e's last post.  I think a bit of name calling here, perhaps about myself being a hypocrite?  Don't worry I've been called worse.  Hoser  

I don't see how pointing out one's position as appearing hypocritical amounts to name-calling.  All of these conservatives feigning some sort of false outrage over something the president never actually said...but they took what he actually said and read into it a bit to support their false outrage...when in fact they continually and openly complain about judicial activism (which is what the president was actually addressing) and were actually cheering Newt for going WAY farther across that line exemplifies the height of hypocrisy.  But if you've personally demonstrated outrage at republicans criticizing the court, I guess I'll take it back.  I just hadn't noticed your outrage in all of those other cases.

[Hoser]

Good enough for me, I don't believe I have ever posted on this particular subject, for or against either side.  I hope the posts I did on this thread clarifys my position on the subject,
aka if you go over the line criticizing federal judges, they can make you pay.  Hoser

[Bob E.]

... if you go over the line criticizing federal judges, they can make you pay.  Hoser

No doubt about that.  I don't think it was an accident that the President made his remarks after the court had already taken it's vote.