FloridaValkRyder
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« on: April 10, 2012, 08:17:29 AM » |
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I have no desire to start a seat belt discussion. This is just a really neat way to get the point across. Remember who else is involved when not buckling up.
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 08:35:49 AM » |
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 08:47:24 AM » |
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seat belts are good to use. i just have a problem when big brother says you've got to wear them or else we'll give you this tickets. who the hell are they to tell me what to do? i'll start wearing a seat belt when they start balancing a budget!! read this article, kinda gave me the creaps!! http://now.msn.com/now/0329-easter-cops.aspx
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 08:53:40 AM » |
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seat belts are good to use. i just have a problem when big brother says you've got to wear them or else we'll give you this tickets. who the hell are they to tell me what to do? i'll start wearing a seat belt when they start balancing a budget!! read this article, kinda gave me the creaps!! http://now.msn.com/now/0329-easter-cops.aspx +1 the insurance companies are behind seat belts laws and many other laws that take away our freedoms so their top execs and share holders make millions and in Buffet's case billions.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 08:58:25 AM » |
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It's a proven FACT that seat belts SAVE lives PERIOD !!!!
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 09:15:15 AM » |
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It's a proven FACT that seat belts SAVE lives PERIOD !!!!
and so do cycle helmets. so when the government comes knocking, wanting to for force every single person riding two wheels to wear a helmet, who ya gonna bitch to then? when sonny bonno racked his mellon on a tree when skiing out of control in an out of bounds area of a ski slope, then a bunch of yahoo's wanted to force EVERYONE to wear helmets when skiing!! that's when this whole "i'm from the government, i'm here to help you" montra started (for me anyway) BTW, i wear my helmet everytime i ride, except when it's over 100*, then i'll take my chances......
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 09:33:57 AM » |
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The government wouldn't have to "force" people to wear seat belts if everybody was smart enough to wear them on their own. And I'll never understand the mentality of anyone who would refuse to wear a seat belt and put their life and safety in jeopardy just because they don't like government. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 10:04:34 AM » |
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If you ever to get to take a good look see on a head-on or similar collision, you will gladly wear your seat belt.
Sure, the belt can give you a couple of bruised shoulders and etc, but it sure as hell beats being decapitated, or stuck 1/2 way through a windshield and before rescue can get there, it is a touch and go on whether you will ever see your family again.
Personally, I hate Seat belts, but after witnessing a few blood bath, for lack of a better word, accidents and doing the followup investigation, I choose to wear mine. Our Division (Area) was mandated to wear about 3 years before the Government said we had to. Most of my fellow officers & I fought the mandate, a few of us got suspensions for not wearing.
Yes, the Insurance Industry was behind pushing Government to mandate the wearing of same.
I still feel it is not to save lives, which it does in some cases, but to save the Insurance Industry BIG $$$$$$$$$$.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 10:19:10 AM » |
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The government wouldn't have to "force" people to wear seat belts if everybody was smart enough to wear them on their own. And I'll never understand the mentality of anyone who would refuse to wear a seat belt and put their life and safety in jeopardy just because they don't like government.  so i take it you won't mind when everyone is forced to wear a helmet because big brother tells you too. oh yeah, next time you go to a restuarant, tell 'em you want your eggs cooked on bacon grease with real butter on your toast. oh, can't have that, might cause a heart attack...... (does anyone see the simularities?? i'm i the only one that gets it??)
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2012, 10:46:16 AM » |
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I get it Alph.
Personally, seat belt use and helmet use is a good idea, should it be mandated, heck NO! If the governing body tells me that I cannot wear shorts while riding my cycle, then that will be the day I sell my Valkyrie and not buy another cycle.
It still irks me I tried to get legislation passed with our local congressman in contact several times trying to get youth ATV's when my son was younger to allow them on frozen waterways in WI as long as with parent and in eyesight/so many feet from parent along with allowing youth ATV's with kids under age 12 to ride with parents ONLY on rural road routes that connect ATV trails. Needless to say nothing got done as usual with our local governing body. When govt. tells me how to raise my child and not allow me to do what I reasonable expect myself to do, then I am more inclined to give up that sport whether ATVing or cycling. There is already some talk here in WI and other states that the DNR/govt. wants to outlaw riding 2-up on a single seat ATV. I have been doing it safely for 6 years now and if comfortable and not crazy, it is perfectly safe. If it ever gets passed, I will sell my ATV's and give up ATVing. What is next, seat belts on cycles? The insanity needs to stop.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2012, 11:15:52 AM » |
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I will be one of the first to say big government mandating this and mandating that is bad for freedom. We dont need Washington to decide what is good, what is safe (enough) what is smart and what isnt. Or do we? When I say we I mean the average American citizen. OMG have you taken a look at the average American lately. Most of us here in this fine club talking on this board are not the ones Im referring to. Round up a couple hundred random people off the street and after questioning them to figure out how able they are to make a safe and rational decision about anything and you might change your mind about needing the government to protect some of these reason challenged individuals from themselves. Now factor in that these people are still allowed to reproduce and teach (or fail to teach) their children any semblence of common sense or personal responsibility, and maybe some laws put forth to guide these ones is needed. Its a terrible slippery slope I admit and how much is enough........exactly.........but seat belt laws are good IMHO and different from helmet laws because pretty much (except for city folk) everyone has to ride in a car.....everyone doesnt have to ride a motorcycle, we usually know and except a higher risk factor that we place ourselves in and should have the right to do so, but as the riding population increases to include the very young, then we have to have something to keep the challenged safer...then again where is that line......exactly.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2012, 12:07:38 PM » |
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I will be one of the first to say big government mandating this and mandating that is bad for freedom. We dont need Washington to decide what is good, what is safe (enough) what is smart and what isnt. Or do we? When I say we I mean the average American citizen. OMG have you taken a look at the average American lately. Most of us here in this fine club talking on this board are not the ones Im referring to. Round up a couple hundred random people off the street and after questioning them to figure out how able they are to make a safe and rational decision about anything and you might change your mind about needing the government to protect some of these reason challenged individuals from themselves. Now factor in that these people are still allowed to reproduce and teach (or fail to teach) their children any semblence of common sense or personal responsibility, and maybe some laws put forth to guide these ones is needed. Its a terrible slippery slope I admit and how much is enough........exactly.........but seat belt laws are good IMHO and different from helmet laws because pretty much (except for city folk) everyone has to ride in a car.....everyone doesnt have to ride a motorcycle, we usually know and except a higher risk factor that we place ourselves in and should have the right to do so, but as the riding population increases to include the very young, then we have to have something to keep the challenged safer...then again where is that line......exactly.
Hear, hear!
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2012, 07:08:52 PM » |
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As a point of interest-when i had my drag car and when i had my roundy round race car-i would not get into either one without my helmet or seat belt use. I also drove an ambulance in east Texas when i lived there. Been up close and personnel at many accident scenes. That bit of experience reinforces my seat belt use to this day. Try explaining to the survivors that mom or dad would have been alive IF they had worn their seatbelt. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2012, 07:13:32 PM » |
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The government wouldn't have to "force" people to wear seat belts if everybody was smart enough to wear them on their own. And I'll never understand the mentality of anyone who would refuse to wear a seat belt and put their life and safety in jeopardy just because they don't like government.  I have enough common sense to protect me from myself. government intervention not necessary 
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2012, 04:18:44 AM » |
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Very touching 
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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2012, 04:41:18 AM » |
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I wear helmet while riding and seatbelt whils driving always but can't make the wife, her choice. Had a close call last week in the truck and almost put her through the windshild, gave her the look and got one back. She still wouldn't put it on. Me I'm just more comfortable with it on, good and tight keeps me from sliding around the seat.
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2012, 05:06:41 AM » |
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Good commercial but now with air bags how relevant is a ticket law for seat belts? Not to mention it was the old routine when they enacted the law it was not a stoppable offense now you can and do get stopped for it, what bs. Anyone who wants to make a point will pull at heartstrings.
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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2012, 05:37:13 AM » |
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Good commercial but now with air bags how relevant is a ticket law for seat belts? Not to mention it was the old routine when they enacted the law it was not a stoppable offense now you can and do get stopped for it, what bs. Anyone who wants to make a point will pull at heartstrings.
Air bags won't keep you from being ejected from the car. 
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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2012, 05:56:43 AM » |
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Good commercial but now with air bags how relevant is a ticket law for seat belts? Not to mention it was the old routine when they enacted the law it was not a stoppable offense now you can and do get stopped for it, what bs. Anyone who wants to make a point will pull at heartstrings.
First off.....without seatbelts the airbag can kill you, second not all cars have them (airbags), and not all cars that have them have working ones.
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2012, 07:34:24 AM » |
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Here in Louisiana not a week goes by without hearing of fatal accident due to driver being ejected from the vehicle. Mostly Redneck Cajun single vehicle wreck. This is from local news and doesnt cover the entire state. It has become commonplace even though we have the Click it or Ticket rule. Makes a believer out of me.
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2012, 07:41:05 AM » |
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Round up a couple hundred random people off the street and after questioning them to figure out how able they are to make a safe and rational decision about anything and you might change your mind about needing the government to protect some of these reason challenged individuals from themselves. Now factor in that these people are still allowed to reproduce and teach (or fail to teach) their children any semblence of common sense or personal responsibility, ... Can't believe I am getting sucked into this, but a little chlorine in the gene pool probably wouldn't be a bad thing.
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