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Looks like S&W has joined the growing segment of subcompacts e.g., Beretta Nano, Ruger LC9, Kahr CM9, PM9..... http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/04/13/smith-wesson-mp-shield-9mm-40-sw-pistol/Attended a local gun show today and NO ONE had one to look at up close and personal. Lots of folks asking about the Shield. One dealer got one in an early morning shipment to his store and he sent one of his staff back to the store to bring it back to the show - about a 3 hour round trip. I didn't stick around to see it. They said they would sell it for MSRP or maybe tack a premium on it since they are in such short supply and very new to the market. |
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 07:51:41 PM » |
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Looking at getting a handgun. I want something reliable/easy maintenance/easy fire that will also be on the cheap side. Is there anything even in a .22 caliber around the 300 dollar mark? Would I be better off buying used and if so, what for around the 250-300 dollar range? So far have found all new being in the 400 dollar range, too much for me. Also, not familiar with ballistics of handguns, but are 9mm rounds cheapest besides of course .22 calibers or are there other rounds of handguns closer to the .22 caliber price tag? Any ideas or suggestions? Not looking for anything for protection really just plinking and hoarsing around. I would think a 9mm has less recoil than .40 or even a .38 caliber?
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 08:02:15 PM » |
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Cookiedough I have a Mark 2 22/45 ss that is just a fun gun to shoot. I think I paid around 300 for it new. Cheap to shoot and a good range or back yard gun.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 08:18:08 PM » |
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Looking at getting a handgun. I want something reliable/easy maintenance/easy fire that will also be on the cheap side. Is there anything even in a .22 caliber around the 300 dollar mark? Would I be better off buying used and if so, what for around the 250-300 dollar range? So far have found all new being in the 400 dollar range, too much for me. Also, not familiar with ballistics of handguns, but are 9mm rounds cheapest besides of course .22 calibers or are there other rounds of handguns closer to the .22 caliber price tag? Any ideas or suggestions? Not looking for anything for protection really just plinking and hoarsing around. I would think a 9mm has less recoil than .40 or even a .38 caliber?
The Ruger and Walther semi-auto 22's are pretty good, you could probably find a used Walther from an individual for around $250 - $300. New would probably be around $350 - $400 for either. The Rugers are more durable in my opinion but the Walthers are completely ambidextrous and generally lighter in weight. The Walthers operating system would probably make them a little safer for a first handgun too. The recoil of a center-fire pistol depends as much on the weight of the gun as it does on the caliber. My little 380 keltec poodle shooter probably kicks more than my 45acp even though it's a much less powerful round because the 380 weights very little and the 45 is heavy. |
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 08:24:59 PM » |
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Cookiedough I have a Mark 2 22/45 ss that is just a fun gun to shoot. I think I paid around 300 for it new. Cheap to shoot and a good range or back yard gun.
Those are very good guns. I've got a standard model my Dad bought new in the 70's. It's had thousands of rounds shot through it without ever a problem. I've still got the factory original box with the price on it. Was $60 something brand new then I think. I wonder if Dad knew what a great deal and great gun he was getting when he bought that pistol? Wish he was still here so I could ask him. http://www.ruger.com/products/markIIIStandard/models.html |
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 09:46:19 PM » |
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I recently picked up 2 Taurus revolvers, a Model 94 (.22 Snubby) and a Model 905 (9mm Snubby Revolver).... and have been very happy with both. They are fun, very accurate for snubby's, fairly easily concealed or carried and fairly inexpensive to shoot. Revolvers are probably the easiest to operate and maintain (clean). I have a vintage '74 S&W model 10 .38 Military/Police Revolver that I never really shot much, it was (and still is) a night stand queen. 9mm and 22 handguns are some of the least expensive from an ammo perspective, whereas 38 is more expensive to shoot. I have a few .22 handguns (Ruger MKIII, Ruger Charger, Walther P22 and the Taurus revolver) all are fun to shoot and have less impact on the wallet to feed the guns. And, in a pinch, a .22 can serve as a self defense weapon.... a well placed .22 round or rounds, is likely be more effective than a 9mm round in an other area.... and it sure beats throwing sticks and stones or pulling a pocket knife. I would recommend a revolver for a first gun.... IMO. But I encourage you to get out and check em all out (shoot em if you can), figure out what your intended use is and do some research, then decide. But everyone should have at least one .22 Regarding the OP with the S&W pocket gun...... those 9's and 40's from a smaller framed package or pocket gun can be painful to shoot , even my Keltec PF9 or pocket .380 bites during a practice session. Definitely not a range gun. |
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2012, 05:39:11 AM » |
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Yes Id also recremmend a revolver for the 1st gun esp if you have no/minimal handgun exp. Kit was smart enough to ask for one as her 1st gun. She wanted something reliable and fool proof. She said she wanted something that she can figure out a malfunction when shtf. I give her credit for that.
Bersa's make inexpensive/reliable handguns. Also are ambidextrious. I paid $350 for my .40. The .380's are a little less then that.
I have a TCP as a BUG. Issues with it at 1st but after a little filing, its all good.
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2012, 07:34:55 AM » |
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I don't think revolver/semi-auto really matters as a first gun. Have then shoot each and let them decide but my mother went the semi-auto route because she keeps hers in her purse and wanted a positive safety. So I got her a USP Compact which my wife sometime steals to take to the range. My wife doesn't carry but if she did I'm pretty sure she'd choose an auto. Not saying they're better than wheelguns, just that different styles work for different people and their different desires. BTW, I REALLY like this new S&W Shield. For one thing is has a real, manual safety. For another it's slim. A lot of makers were focusing only on the outside dimensions of the gun when just as important in determining concealability is thickness.
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2012, 08:05:31 AM » |
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I've never been a big S&W fan,but, apparently the Walther influence has helped.. I kinda like some of the new S&W semis.. They are simple, pretty rugged and cheap[$370 range].. As far as caliber, I don't think you could give me a 9MM.. Well, you could give me one, but, I doubt I'd use it.. I much prefer the .357. 40 or my favorite is still the 45acp.. I tend to prefer Colt or Ruger in either auto or 6 [or5] shooters and I still like an exposed hammer.. Maybe thats a sign of my age..
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fudgie
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2012, 08:55:48 AM » |
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I've never been a big S&W fan,but, apparently the Walther influence has helped.. I kinda like some of the new S&W semis.. They are simple, pretty rugged and cheap[$370 range].. As far as caliber, I don't think you could give me a 9MM.. Well, you could give me one, but, I doubt I'd use it.. I much prefer the .357. 40 or my favorite is still the 45acp.. I tend to prefer Colt or Ruger in either auto or 6 [or5] shooters and I still like an exposed hammer.. Maybe thats a sign of my age..
Nah, I'm young(er) and perfer a exposed hammer. When I think S&W, I think revolvers. Auto's? No way. |
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2012, 10:13:17 AM » |
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I just bought a S&W 22a semi auto .22. It has been free of any kind of problems and works very well for the price. My Browning Medalist is now officially retired.
I've been in the shooting sports for over 70 years and I'm amazed at how many reliable firearms are out there now. Lots of choices. Ruger, S&w, Walther, Bersa, Sig, Glock, Kimber, Taurus, and a bunch of others.
However, I'm glad that I have what i have now. Many of mine were bought during a cheaper time.
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