Gun news for the day

[stormrider]

House ok's guns in national parks. Makes sense. If I'm out for a ride, say to NC, and the Blue Ridge or Gatlinburg, and I'm at Bryson City, and I got my heat with me, before this bill, I'd have to leave it with some spanish speaking thug at the local Tasty Freeze and hope he would hold onto it for me till I returned or forget the Blue Ridge Pkw and if going to Gatlinburg would have to take the long way round. Like the other day I rode by a school that sits close enough to the road to make me a criminal. A guy can't win for being criminalized.

http://news.aol.com/main/politics/article/guns-in-national-parks/479231

[Duffy]

Yep, saw that on the front page of the Wall Street Journal this morning.

Seems inconsistent with the many fears of gun lovers on this board. 

Maybe things are changing? Not likely I suppose. 

[Evil One]

It was attached as a rider on the credit card bill.
The anti gunners do things like that all the time, about time the good guys turned the table.


Jim

[Tundra]

I carry everyday all the time, wife too. I'm leaving for Virginia today, my Cocealed Carry Permit is good in Virginia, but not in some other states I'll be traveling through. In this case I'll be careful to get through those states and will not carry on my person. That's a risk I'm willing to take. Like you all with your helmets, won't leave home without it!

[Scanner]

Bad news for the NRA and Gun/Ammo dealers who need to keep people frightened that "they want our guns".  Fear=profit.

[Evil One]

I carry everyday all the time, wife too. I'm leaving for Virginia today, my Cocealed Carry Permit is good in Virginia, but not in some other states I'll be traveling through.

Are you a Fl resident with a Fl resident permit?
If I remember right your Fl permit is good in all but 17 states... the west coast and hawaii, the northeast... except for NH, and the upper midwest.
I have my Virginia permit and will be getting either a Fl or Ut non resident to fill in a few holes that the Va permit has while traveling.
Enjoy your stay up here.


Jim

[Tundra]

Jim, Yes Florida resident, Yes Florida permit. Florida is currently recognized in 29 States as per section 790.015 Florida Statutes. That's a good idea.
Thanks

[Trynt]

Bad news for the NRA and Gun/Ammo dealers who need to keep people frightened that "they want our guns".  Fear=profit.

Actually Scanner it was a Victory for the NRA.  They lobbied hard for the bill.  The measure was attached to the popular credit card bill, which would impose new restrictions on credit card companies. The new law, which will allow licensed gun owners to bring firearms into national parks and wildlife refuges as long as they are allowed by state law.  Essentially it says that federal rules won't, in this instance, trump state law. It was a victory for states rights.

Lets see a  bill heavily supported by the NRA passes and that is "bad news" for the NRA?   Typical left wing logic.

[stormrider]

I don't think Scanner even read my post. By having gun restrictions, a law abiding citizen suddenly without his knowledge is placed in jeophordy by entering into a park, school zone, etc. while armed, because of restrictions placed on our 2nd amendment right.

But I guess that is alright if you don't believe in the Constitution and holding our government accountable to uphold our Constitution of which they are sworn to. Dang irony, don't you just hate it.

[stormrider]

I guess we owe the ammo shortage to the best gun salesman ever, Barak Obama and the democratic controlled congress. And I suppose you like big government.

You probably don't think much of Thomas Jefferson so here are some of his quotes for you to ferment over.

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. It is incumbent on every generation to pay it's own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world. My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. (I guess we are a nation of paranoid lunatics, isn't that what you said Scanner?) The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

But your right, the government is going to take care of us, no need to fear.

[Scanner]

Where the hell did you guys get the idea they want your guns?  Obama and the Dems didn't even renew the assault weapons ban?

The people trying to scare you are the people selling you the guns and ammo.  Of course they want you scared - it translates to money in their pocket. It's pretty simple. Unless you believe America is an "Evil Empire" like Stormtrooper.

[Trynt]

Where the hell did you guys get the idea they want your guns?  Obama and the Dems didn't even renew the assault weapons ban?

The people trying to scare you are the people selling you the guns and ammo.  Of course they want you scared - it translates to money in their pocket. It's pretty simple. Unless you believe America is an "Evil Empire" like Stormtrooper.

1.  H.R.45 introduced by Bobby Rush, D-ILL, would require finger printing, photographing, passing a written test every five years, safe storage (in effect rendering a firearm useless for self-defense) and outlaw the private transfer of handguns.  It would require federal registration, impose criminal penalties for failing to report loss or theft of a firearm to the attorney general within three days. So Scanner do you want to be finger printed, photographed, and pass a written test before exercising the remainder of the bill of rights?

2. There are ongoing efforts to circumvent the second amendment via the U.N. Arms Treaty that would preclude gun ownership by private citizens.  One hundred and eighty nations have already ratified the treaty. Those on the left ask, "how can the U.S. be so isolated?"

3.  Influential members of the government are pro gun control.  In late Feb. Attorney General Eric Holder announced the administration would seek to reinstate the "assault weapon" ban. He stated it was needed because U.S. weapons were fueling the violence in Mexico.  Dianne Feinstein, D-Calf, appearing on CBS "60 Minutes" April 12th said that she planned to introduce additional legislation banning firearms, but that she was waiting for an opportune time.

4. Not all dems want to ban guns, but some do. Many favor "a few common sense gun laws".   Gun bans have taken place in Great Britain and Australia, two societies very similar to ours.  In Canada, ordinary citizens can no longer own a handgun.  It started with "just a few common sense gun laws" such as registration.

5. The government is not a benevolent entity (even Strong Eagle has acknowledged this).  Politics is all about the acquisition, maintenance and application of power.  Power corrupts.  Absolute power corrupts absolutely.  Those in power are only held in check by their opposition. The NRA (is non-profit by the way) is the watchdog that draws a line in the sand and tells the government to back off.  Vigilance is not a vice.

I'm not saying the government is going to take our guns away.  But anyone who believes it couldn't happen here is naive.

[Scanner]

Trynt, though I don't agree (the NRA may be non-profit, excepting for it's leadership and the legislators it lobbies), I respect your opinion.  It seems well and reasonably thought out.  You obviously aren't some yahoo standing on the corner shouting "the end is near"  or rallying against the "evil empire".  You also obviously keep a closer eye on this issue than I do.  Appreciated.

We can agree to disagree and ride on.

Mike

[Evil One]

Honestly, I watch the NRA "compromising" on 2A issues.
Slowly, bit by bit handing away most of our 2A rights.
Yes, they are better than nothing... but I really wish they were more like www.jpfo.org .


Jim