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TearlessTom
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« on: May 21, 2009, 09:21:40 PM »

 Okay. I never thought I admit it but I've been beat.  I've got the Audiovox Cruise Control hooked up. I went back in and did the DeSmog to clean things up a bit but what is up with the airbox.

It turns out that my running poorly issue was more than likey due to a loose connection between the filter air box and one or two of the carbs had slipped off.

What is the trick to getting ALL SIX of the tubes from the Air Filter Box to the individual carbs to stay on?

I have them all oriented in the right direction. I have the little notch lined up on all six but everytime I get one fitted one on the other side come loose.

I am about to the point of trying glue to make them stay in place but that should not be necessary.  This isnt brain surgery so what am I doing wrong.??

Again, Thanks in advance...
Tom
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2009, 09:44:21 PM »

I always check the easy, goofy, cheap stuff first. Did I install it backwards? Did some of the tubes get pushed up into the airbox? Did I forget to tighten the clamps around the intake tubes? Stuff like that.
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TearlessTom
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2009, 09:49:15 PM »

Nope none of that. They just keep pulling off after tighting them on the opposite side.
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2009, 03:40:45 AM »

Some use a ratchet strap to pull the airbox down on the carbs while connecting the rubbers.....
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2009, 04:47:08 AM »

The main wireing harness runs against the frame, directly in front of the airbox., well, actually just off to one side. If you moved it one way or another when you removed the box, you will have one hell of a time getiing the airbox to sit all the way down on the carbs. Look at the harness orientation closely and make sure you have clearence between it and the airbox. When everything is positioned correctly, the box will fall right into place. There should be no need to force it down.

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 05:55:32 AM »

A couple things have already been mentioned...the main harness can get in the way, and using a strap to pull it down and hold it while you tighten the clamps. That last one is what I do everytime once I get past the first item. I put the cover on the box, place about a 4" piece of 2x4 on it and hook a ratchet tie down to each side on the engine guards, with the strap running over the piece of wood, then ratchet it down. Now, both hands are free to tug, pull, poke, cuss, whatever it takes to get things down and fastened. You need to watch the backside of the carbs where the airbox tubing slips over them. They will often catch and curl under instead of slipping down over the carb, thereby preventing the box from sliding all the way down. Get a long slender screwdriver and simply slide it along the top of the carb to "unroll" the tube and get it down where it belongs. After all are in place, tighten the clamps and the bolt at the rear and you should be home free. I use an inspection mirror and position it around the back of the carbs to see if the rubber tubes are curled under.
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2009, 06:58:42 AM »

Speaking of the Audiovox, don't you just love trying to get the couplers on the beaded chain?  Just did an install again yesterday and the bike isn't desmogged.  I finally got smarter (well, maybe) and opened up those couplers with a hammer & screw driver, then pinched them closed again once the connections were made.

Oh, and what John said about making sure the air box tubes aren't rolled-over on the back side.  I use a big rubber sledgehammer to get the box down, a mirror to check the backs of the tubes, and then a phillips screw driver that's been bent 90 degrees to slide along the tops of the carbs to straighten out any tubes that have curled.

Fun and games!
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 11:03:41 AM »

For the tubes that are curled under on the back side of the carb, I just twist the tube around until it is easy to get a small screwdriver under the curled under part.  When it is all fitting outside the top of the carb, then I twist the tube back to its correct position...JTL
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2009, 12:16:20 PM »

Okay. I never thought I admit it but I've been beat.  I've got the Audiovox Cruise Control hooked up. I went back in and did the DeSmog to clean things up a bit but what is up with the airbox.

It turns out that my running poorly issue was more than likey due to a loose connection between the filter air box and one or two of the carbs had slipped off.

What is the trick to getting ALL SIX of the tubes from the Air Filter Box to the individual carbs to stay on?

I have them all oriented in the right direction. I have the little notch lined up on all six but everytime I get one fitted one on the other side come loose.

I am about to the point of trying glue to make them stay in place but that should not be necessary.  This isnt brain surgery so what am I doing wrong.??

Again, Thanks in advance...
Tom


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Old Geezer Richard
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2009, 06:25:43 PM »

Hey Tearless , ditto on what everybody has said , but one thing I do instead of a ratchet strap I use a small narrow piece of plywood I had laying around by accident that just fit on top of the air box .... when you have the tubes fitting in the carbs thats when I use my old canvas tool bag  with tools that weighs around 10 + lbs on top of the plywood to keep the tubes down ... my first time at this caused me to cuss and want to go get my 45 because when I would tighten one side the other side would rise up  DUH !!!! Ihave learned since .... so I use the tool bag it and it keeps pressure on the air box down .... it worked great for me did not have to keep getting up and down from one side to another ..... another thing I did was to replace those oem bolts with some stainless grade 8 metric bolts on all of the clamps and they grab and the cross does not strip out like the oem ones did on me ..... I don't have to push real hard when tightening down down the philips bolts on the clamps clamps .... and I also used some tacky gasket sealant on the inside of the air box down at the base of the air tubes  to reseal the tubes just in case I broke the  facrory seal  no leaks ..... everybody has their way and tips to listen to and they all work .... PATIENCE and PRACTICE MAKES IT EASIER  with less cussing involved !!!! Aint't it funny how women don't cuss when doing mechanics , they just say ol well honey will fix it ..... Thanks Old Geezer Richard
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2009, 07:40:50 AM »

For the tubes that are curled under on the back side of the carb, I just twist the tube around until it is easy to get a small screwdriver under the curled under part.  When it is all fitting outside the top of the carb, then I twist the tube back to its correct position...JTL

I think "curled up on the back side" might be the main problem... it's hard to tell from the
front that they're that way. Me and Steamer used a little mirror on a rod to insure that
all tubes were OK on the back. Twisting the one that was being a real bugger worked great
for us, just twist it back right after you're done... Everyone probably knows there's a
registration tab on the back of each intake runner, and an associated notch in the
airbox tube, gotta make sure they're lined up...

-Mike
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TearlessTom
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2009, 09:55:26 PM »

Thanks everyone for the responses and suggestions. I think I took some from hints from everyone to get them back on properly.

It turned out the culprit was the plastic shield on the front side that separates the fan and radiator hose from the air box area.

It had gotten misaligned and was setting too high so the front of the air box was pressing on top of the part that covers the radiator hose inlet.

Thanks Again...

Tom
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