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BonS
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« on: April 29, 2012, 12:33:17 PM »

I helped a friend with his Tourer today. Only 10K miles on the clock. All stock with unmolested pipes. It sounds bad coming off idle as it reminds me of a twin of all things. When revved it kinda goes "chuf, chuf, chuf" as it builds rpm's. All sound is at the back of the pipes where it belongs so it's not an exhaust leak.

He's been running Techron and since things hadn't cleared up yet we had a wrench party today. We pulled the carbs and put in new 38 slo's and dialed the needles down to 1 3/4 turns. Didn't help. The right bank puffs a light grey smoke (before and after the carb tear down). The idle itself is great. I can't speak to the power band as I haven't driven it. The carbs looked very clean otherwise. He's going to fill up with some fresh gas because what he has in there has a lot of additive in it.

I'm thinking that we need to pull the diaphragms to inspect them and the jet needles. Other than that I don't have a next step so I'm trolling for suggestions.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 05:42:15 PM »

Carefully inspect the diaphragms. Minute cracks around the edges can cause what you describe. It could also be vacuum lines or O rings around the intake runners.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 08:17:25 PM »

I tried to get my friend to order all new rubber from Redeye so we could take care of the old rubber parts all at once but he didn't. tickedoff Next up I'll pull the diaphragms and examine them carefully. I'll also check the carb balance because it's easy.

This bike has been through several owners and there's evidence that things weren't always done with the best of workmanship.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 02:04:34 PM »

The first thing I would suggest is to put the stock jets back in.

Why anyone will start to make modifications to a poorly running bike is foreign to me.

Fix the problem and then, if you want - make modifications.

You may have compounded the problem with those non-stock jets.

Of course I am sure you will stick with him to the bitter end in trying to get his bike running properly.

You should since you're altering it before getting it running properly.

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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 04:27:12 PM »

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You may have compounded the problem with those non-stock jets.
Just wondering?  What makes you think that? 
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 05:15:47 PM »

The first thing I would suggest is to put the stock jets back in.

Why anyone will start to make modifications to a poorly running bike is foreign to me.

Fix the problem and then, if you want - make modifications.

You may have compounded the problem with those non-stock jets.

Of course I am sure you will stick with him to the bitter end in trying to get his bike running properly.

You should since you're altering it before getting it running properly.

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Putting in 38's isn't that big a deal and they work well with the gas we have around here. We were in there to change them anyhow. And we'll get'r right.

Since we tag-teamed this bike, and he worked the left side and I worked the right, I checked his work of the left and found an air filter boot not properly seated on the carburetor. That corrected, the bike is running much better.

I rode his bike this afternoon for the first time and the mid to high end feels fine. However, there's still a bit of popping on deceleration. Tomorrow we'll use starter fluid to check for vacuum leaks. One step at a time.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 11:16:07 AM »

You mentioned changing the jets, but, not cleaning the carburetors..
Does this thing run OK at higher engine speeds?? 3K and above ??
If so, it sounds like you still have some varnish somewhere..
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 11:29:24 AM »

It runs great at idle, under light and hard acceleration and at high speeds. The only sore spot at this time is some low level popping under deceleration. We didn't do anything more than change the slo jets and clean the sediment from the bowls. The carbs looked remarkably clean. I strongly suspect that someone had been in there not too long ago. At this time I'm focusing on cracks in the rubber hoses, the  pair valve and its reeds and the air cutoff valves themselves.
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 12:08:05 PM »

It runs great at idle, under light and hard acceleration and at high speeds. The only sore spot at this time is some low level popping under deceleration. We didn't do anything more than change the slo jets and clean the sediment from the bowls. The carbs looked remarkably clean. I strongly suspect that someone had been in there not too long ago. At this time I'm focusing on cracks in the rubber hoses, the  pair valve and its reeds and the air cutoff valves themselves.

Sounds like it's time for a desmog.......
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Damn thing gives me the grins every time I get on it!
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