Romney apologizes for hurtful high school pranks

[Bob E.]

Pretty much every word out of his mouth.  Take you pick.  The open administration for instance.

+1  I only wish he had done even a samll percentage of what he says. Ooops, I forgot! It's Bush's fault. 

Such as?

I didn't reply earlier as I was at work, but here goes:(paraphrasing)

I'll close gitmo in 1 year.  Blocked by Congress...mostly Republicans

unemployment will not go above 8%.  Stated prior to the size of the stimulus being whittled down to about half of what many economists figured was needed...and that was even before it was realized that the rate of recession in the last quarter of 2008 which was estimated at about 3% was actually about 9%...3 times worse than originally reported.

I'll get rid of lobbyists Yeah, that would be nice but it isn't going to happen without an act of Congress...who if you haven't noticed, aren't exactly willing to work with him on it.

Shovel ready jobs  This was really a failure at the state level.  Some states like PA were actually ready and organized for this program and utilized the money quite well.  Others, especially red states opposed to the stimulus program...not so much.

The police acted stupidly They didn't?  They arrested a guy in his own house because he was black in a nice neighborhood all while refusing to listen to him stating it was HIS HOUSE.  Hey I understand that cops need to make some snap decisions...oftentimes their lives depend on it.  Maybe "stupidly" was not the best word.  However, that doesn't make them any less wrong when later, it turns out they were, well, wrong.  The fact that their wrong decision was based on prejudice and perhaps full-on racism, rather than good investigation makes it stupid.

If I had a son, he would look like Trevon (How the F does he know what his non existent son would look like?) It is hard to believe...maybe it shouldn't be...how someone like the president trying to express some understanding and sympathy to the greiving parents and reassuring them that the case would be handled with the seriousness it deserved...how that could be derided as a bad thing is beyond me.

I think you miss my point, Bob.  It's not who is responsible for these things not happening, it is the fact that HE stated and campaigned on them, made promises to the American people, and broke them.  And then you say you don't believe Romney's statement about something that happened 50 years ago?  As I said, I don't believe A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G Obama says, you can believe him if you like.

Right...and you are faulting him for not getting something done, even though he attempted to do what he said he would do??  He's not a king, you know.  Republicans have blocked him at every opportunity, then claim he isn't getting things done.  Now that's what's unbelievable.

[G-Man]

"The police acted stupidly They didn't?  They arrested a guy in his own house because he was black in a nice neighborhood all while refusing to listen to him stating it was HIS HOUSE.  Hey I understand that cops need to make some snap decisions...oftentimes their lives depend on it.  Maybe "stupidly" was not the best word.  However, that doesn't make them any less wrong when later, it turns out they were, well, wrong.  The fact that their wrong decision was based on prejudice and perhaps full-on racism, rather than good investigation makes it stupid."

I can't believe the answer to this one!  So, even if you are right in a certain situation, you're saying it's OK to yell at police officers, yell to passerbys that a black man is being treated badly, REFUSE to cooperate in any way so that the police could get to the bottom of why they were called, and then just believe the screaming arrogant, race baiting idiot, because he says he in the right?

I don't want to live in an area where screaming, arrogant, uncooperative, race baiters are given the benefit of the doubt.

All the screaming, arrogant, uncooperative, race baiter had to do was stop screaming, calm down, cooperate with the police, and not yell to the forming crowd that the police are racists,.......and none of this would have even happened.  In fact, he should have thanked them for showing up to his home when someone was actually breaking into it.

"Yes officer, this is my house.  My name is John Smith and I'm returning from a trip and seem to have lost my keys.  If you'll allow me, I can show you my identification.  Officer follows him inside and he produces the ID and the police go home.  Instead, he played to pompous black guy who is above having to cooperate with police because he feels all blacks are unjustly accused.

The police acted perfectly.  It's the public who needs to learn how to behave when confronted by police, not the other way around.  We've seen the results of not cooperating, why perpetuate the insanity of continuing poor behavior yet expecting to be treated nicely.  The badge commands respect, whether you like it or not.   My father gave me the "talk" that every black parent has with their son a long time ago, and I'm not even black.  So, if every black parent has this talk (which I believe is fabrication made up to make the Travon thingie even more racist), how come so many still fight and argue with police?   

You must have read a different account of that story than I did then.  It was my understanding that a neighbor saw a man trying to get into a house and called the police.  Fine.  When the police showed up, they found a man trying to get into the house.  Fine.  So, of course they probably yelled, "Stop, Police!" or something to that effect, aggressively approached him perhaps with guns drawn, then took him to the ground, cuffed him, etc.  Up until this point, I'll give the police the benefit of the doubt and agree with you.  However, at that point (or during the interaction), the man does identify himself as the homeowner, or at least attempted to, but the police refused to listen and allow him to say "Yes officer, this is my house.  My name is John Smith and I'm returning from a trip and seem to have lost my keys.  If you'll allow me, I can show you my identification."  That's where the police went from right to wrong.

I find it pretty hard to believe that there was any opportunity to have some calm conversation with the nice officers as you would suggest.

We definitely heard two different stories.  But I heard the same accounts from the police on the scene, which included police of different race, color, and gender all giving the same exact account of what went on.  And even if your account is true that the cops entered in a blaze of glory, yelling and shouting, and cuffing the person they see breaking in (the police state that he was given every opportunity to cooperate and many warnings to settle himself down before cuffing him), they're not gonna just haul you off to the pokey without questioning you at the scene.  You really think that they wouldn't ask the guy his name, where he lives, does he have ID, etc?  They just showed up, cuffed a black guy, and took him off to jail??  The investigation demonstrated that the police did everything correct that day.  Obama's beer bash was to save his own face for calling the cops stupid.  Hey, let's have the cop over for a beer to smooth things over.  The cop, before and after the meet, stated he'd do the exact same thing again. 

Obama and his administration (specifically Eric Holder) are setting race relations so far back, we might not recover any time soon.  Such a shame.   

[MP]

"The police acted stupidly They didn't?  They arrested a guy in his own house because he was black in a nice neighborhood all while refusing to listen to him stating it was HIS HOUSE.  Hey I understand that cops need to make some snap decisions...oftentimes their lives depend on it.  Maybe "stupidly" was not the best word.  However, that doesn't make them any less wrong when later, it turns out they were, well, wrong.  The fact that their wrong decision was based on prejudice and perhaps full-on racism, rather than good investigation makes it stupid."

I can't believe the answer to this one!  So, even if you are right in a certain situation, you're saying it's OK to yell at police officers, yell to passerbys that a black man is being treated badly, REFUSE to cooperate in any way so that the police could get to the bottom of why they were called, and then just believe the screaming arrogant, race baiting idiot, because he says he in the right?

I don't want to live in an area where screaming, arrogant, uncooperative, race baiters are given the benefit of the doubt.

All the screaming, arrogant, uncooperative, race baiter had to do was stop screaming, calm down, cooperate with the police, and not yell to the forming crowd that the police are racists,.......and none of this would have even happened.  In fact, he should have thanked them for showing up to his home when someone was actually breaking into it.

"Yes officer, this is my house.  My name is John Smith and I'm returning from a trip and seem to have lost my keys.  If you'll allow me, I can show you my identification.  Officer follows him inside and he produces the ID and the police go home.  Instead, he played to pompous black guy who is above having to cooperate with police because he feels all blacks are unjustly accused.

The police acted perfectly.  It's the public who needs to learn how to behave when confronted by police, not the other way around.  We've seen the results of not cooperating, why perpetuate the insanity of continuing poor behavior yet expecting to be treated nicely.  The badge commands respect, whether you like it or not.   My father gave me the "talk" that every black parent has with their son a long time ago, and I'm not even black.  So, if every black parent has this talk (which I believe is fabrication made up to make the Travon thingie even more racist), how come so many still fight and argue with police?   

You must have read a different account of that story than I did then.  It was my understanding that a neighbor saw a man trying to get into a house and called the police.  Fine.  When the police showed up, they found a man trying to get into the house.  Fine.  So, of course they probably yelled, "Stop, Police!" or something to that effect, aggressively approached him perhaps with guns drawn, then took him to the ground, cuffed him, etc.  Up until this point, I'll give the police the benefit of the doubt and agree with you.  However, at that point (or during the interaction), the man does identify himself as the homeowner, or at least attempted to, but the police refused to listen and allow him to say "Yes officer, this is my house.  My name is John Smith and I'm returning from a trip and seem to have lost my keys.  If you'll allow me, I can show you my identification."  That's where the police went from right to wrong.

I find it pretty hard to believe that there was any opportunity to have some calm conversation with the nice officers as you would suggest.

Not the news story I heard, Bob.  What I read was that the man said he was the homeowner, but refused to cooperate, and refused to produce ANY Identification.  Since he refused to produce ANY proof he was the homeowner, he was detained.  The police did their job.

MP

[The Anvil]

Why does a man have to provide ID in his own home? What business do the cops have showing up and asking you to provide ID in your own house? If they showed up at my door asking for ID and I didn't call them then I might be kind of irritated myself.

I think more than a couple of people here would be singing a different tune (maybe even in support of the homeowner) had it been a white guy resisting "jackbooted thuggery".

And of course there's three sides to every story...

[musclehead]

Why does a man have to provide ID in his own home? What business do the cops have showing up and asking you to provide ID in your own house? If they showed up at my door asking for ID and I didn't call them then I might be kind of irritated myself.

I think more than a couple of people here would be singing a different tune (maybe even in support of the homeowner) had it been a white guy resisting "jackbooted thuggery".

And of course there's three sides to every story...

the whole story is, he had to break into his own home he didn't have his keys as I recall. the cab driver helped him.  a neighbor witnessed what they thought was a burglary and called the cops.

the cops arrived asked for ID, asked for Gates to step out on his porch to talk . lawful orders both of them, if you refuse you may be arrested or detained. and there is a big difference between the two.

forget a few details??

[musclehead]

Pretty much every word out of his mouth.  Take you pick.  The open administration for instance.

+1  I only wish he had done even a samll percentage of what he says. Ooops, I forgot! It's Bush's fault. 

Such as?

I didn't reply earlier as I was at work, but here goes:(paraphrasing)

I'll close gitmo in 1 year.  Blocked by Congress...mostly Republicans

unemployment will not go above 8%.  Stated prior to the size of the stimulus being whittled down to about half of what many economists figured was needed...and that was even before it was realized that the rate of recession in the last quarter of 2008 which was estimated at about 3% was actually about 9%...3 times worse than originally reported.

I'll get rid of lobbyists Yeah, that would be nice but it isn't going to happen without an act of Congress...who if you haven't noticed, aren't exactly willing to work with him on it.

Shovel ready jobs  This was really a failure at the state level.  Some states like PA were actually ready and organized for this program and utilized the money quite well.  Others, especially red states opposed to the stimulus program...not so much.

The police acted stupidly They didn't?  They arrested a guy in his own house because he was black in a nice neighborhood all while refusing to listen to him stating it was HIS HOUSE.  Hey I understand that cops need to make some snap decisions...oftentimes their lives depend on it.  Maybe "stupidly" was not the best word.  However, that doesn't make them any less wrong when later, it turns out they were, well, wrong.  The fact that their wrong decision was based on prejudice and perhaps full-on racism, rather than good investigation makes it stupid.

If I had a son, he would look like Trevon (How the F does he know what his non existent son would look like?) It is hard to believe...maybe it shouldn't be...how someone like the president trying to express some understanding and sympathy to the greiving parents and reassuring them that the case would be handled with the seriousness it deserved...how that could be derided as a bad thing is beyond me.

I think you miss my point, Bob.  It's not who is responsible for these things not happening, it is the fact that HE stated and campaigned on them, made promises to the American people, and broke them.  And then you say you don't believe Romney's statement about something that happened 50 years ago?  As I said, I don't believe A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G Obama says, you can believe him if you like.

Right...and you are faulting him for not getting something done, even though he attempted to do what he said he would do??  He's not a king, you know.  Republicans have blocked him at every opportunity, then claim he isn't getting things done.  Now that's what's unbelievable.

proir to the midterm elections the repubs had NO majorities in either house. so how exactly did the repubs stop ANYTHING Obama wanted done?

truth is some 'blue dog' dems were the problem.

[MP]

Why does a man have to provide ID in his own home? What business do the cops have showing up and asking you to provide ID in your own house? If they showed up at my door asking for ID and I didn't call them then I might be kind of irritated myself.

I think more than a couple of people here would be singing a different tune (maybe even in support of the homeowner) had it been a white guy resisting "jackbooted thuggery".

And of course there's three sides to every story...

He forgot his keys.  He went around back, in the dark.  He broke into his own home.  A neighbor saw somebody in the dark breaking in, and called the cops.  they came, and found him in the house.  He refused to prove he was the homeowner, put up a fuss, and was detained.

What would you do as a cop?  let a potential thief just tell you he owned the home, and you would say OK?

Why is this so hard to understand?  All he had to do was pull out his drivers license to show he belonged there, they would have said sorry to bother you, and left.

But, he HAD to prove how racially biased the cops were, and put up a stink.  As far as I am concerned, he should have been charged with something.

Instead, the cop got in trouble for doing his job.

MP

[musclehead]

Why does a man have to provide ID in his own home? What business do the cops have showing up and asking you to provide ID in your own house? If they showed up at my door asking for ID and I didn't call them then I might be kind of irritated myself.

I think more than a couple of people here would be singing a different tune (maybe even in support of the homeowner) had it been a white guy resisting "jackbooted thuggery".

And of course there's three sides to every story...

He forgot his keys.  He went around back, in the dark.  He broke into his own home.  A neighbor saw somebody in the dark breaking in, and called the cops.  they came, and found him in the house.  He refused to prove he was the homeowner, put up a fuss, and was detained.

What would you do as a cop?  let a potential thief just tell you he owned the home, and you would say OK?

Why is this so hard to understand?  All he had to do was pull out his drivers license to show he belonged there, they would have said sorry to bother you, and left.

But, he HAD to prove how racially biased the cops were, and put up a stink.  As far as I am concerned, he should have been charged with something.

Instead, the cop got in trouble for doing his job.

MP

AND Obama said the 'cops acted stupidly' 

[The Anvil]

forget a few details??

No, no I did not. You'll note that I was vague. That was intentional. 

The cops can easily verify whether or not you belong there by cross-referencing residences against drivers licenses. There ARE other ways, but they typically don't satisfy a need to exert authority.

I've got a lot of friends who are cops and I used to work very closely with them. I know as well as anyone how they can be when you call their authority into question.

And I still maintain that if the guy was white some of the people who are questioning him for standing up for himself would be celebrating him the way they celebrate Randy Weaver.

And again, three sides to every story and history is written by the victors. Guess who's usually on the winning side when the police are involved?

[Skinhead]

Who killed Bin Laden?  Here's a Marine's answer.

 

America is not at war, the US Marines are at war; 

 

America is at the mall."

Let's be clear on this: OBAMA did NOT kill Bin Laden. An American sailor, who Obama, just a few weeks before, was debating on whether or not to PAY, did! In fact, if you remember a little less than two years ago, his administration actually charged and attempted to court-martial three Navy Seals from Seal Team Six, when a terrorist suspect they captured, complained they had punched him during the take-down and bloodied his nose. Obama's administration further commented how brutal they were. The left were calling them Nazi's and Baby Killers. Now all of a sudden, the very brave men they vilified are now heroes when they make his administration look good in the eyes of the public. Obama just happened to be the one in office when the CIA finally found the <guy> And our sailors took him out. Essentially, Obama only gave an answer, Yes or No, to him being taken out. This is NOT an Obama victory, but an AMERICAN victory!!

Ed Schreiber
Col. US MC  (Ret.)
"Semper Fi"

OBAMA'S OWN WORDS TRAP HIM:

2008: "Navy Seal Team 6 is Cheney's private assassination team."
2011: "I put together Seal Team 6 to take out Bin Laden."

2008: "Bin Laden is innocent until proven guilty, and must be

captured alive and given a fair trial."
2011: "I authorized Seal Team 6 to kill Bin Laden."

2008: " Guantanamo is entirely unnecessary, and the detainees should not be interrogated."
2011: "Vital intelligence was obtained from  Guantanamo detainees that led to our locating Bin Laden."

[musclehead]

forget a few details??

No, no I did not. You'll note that I was vague. That was intentional. 

The cops can easily verify whether or not you belong there by cross-referencing residences against drivers licenses. There ARE other ways, but they typically don't satisfy a need to exert authority.

I've got a lot of friends who are cops and I used to work very closely with them. I know as well as anyone how they can be when you call their authority into question.

And I still maintain that if the guy was white some of the people who are questioning him for standing up for himself would be celebrating him the way they celebrate Randy Weaver.

And again, three sides to every story and history is written by the victors. Guess who's usually on the winning side when the police are involved?

playing the race card, one of the detaining officers was black 
Gates didn't show ID if he had the whole thing would have been over in two seconds.

[Paxton]

Ed Schreiber
Col. US MC  (Ret.);
Sir, I begin by saluting and thanking you for your military service to our nation. 

The essence of your comments about who actually killed Usama Bin Laden is well known facts.
We know that the Commander in Chief did not kill Bin Laden himself.
However, in your presentation, I sense a passionate anger towards our Commander in Chief.

I have no issue with your presenting a point of view. However, as a military officer you should well know how complex and sensitive
matters of war and peace are.

You ought to know that by necessity some officers at your level and above do not have access to this high-level information.

So, whereas I do not devalue your passionate points of view, it is indeed just a point of view, to which you are entitled.

I happen to believe that our Commander in Chief acted wisely, decisively and ordered, on his volition the most effective
surgical operation in recent history. Arguably, in our entire history.

Bush (41) himself did not catch Noriega. Truman, we know did not bomb Japan himself.
But history will credit them with those achievements as it should. That is what commanders in chief do.

One can detest these men, but one cannot deny their achievements.

In the following, we agree 100%:
"America is not at war, the US Marines (the military) are at war. America is at the mall." A sad commentary but true...
and a subject matter for another thread.

Again, I salute you Sir for your military service to our nation.

Respectfully.

"You are entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to your own facts."
Tip O'Neill

[The Anvil]

playing the race card, one of the detaining officers was black 

So?

As has already been pointed out here (many, many times) black people are some of the most racist humans you will come across. Right?

[BIG--T]

Ed Schreiber
Col. US MC  (Ret.);
Sir, I begin by saluting and thanking you for your military service to our nation. 

The essence of your comments about who actually killed Usama Bin Laden is well known facts.
We know that the Commander in Chief did not kill Bin Laden himself.
However, in your presentation, I sense a passionate anger towards our Commander in Chief.

I have no issue with your presenting a point of view. However, as a military officer you should well know how complex and sensitive
matters of war and peace are.

You ought to know that by necessity some officers at your level and above do not have access to this high-level information.

So, whereas I do not devalue your passionate points of view, it is indeed just a point of view, to which you are entitled.

I happen to believe that our Commander in Chief acted wisely, decisively and ordered, on his volition the most effective
surgical operation in recent history. Arguably, in our entire history.

Bush (41) himself did not catch Noriega. Truman, we know did not bomb Japan himself.
But history will credit them with those achievements as it should. That is what commanders in chief do.

One can detest these men, but one cannot deny their achievements.

In the following, we agree 100%:
"America is not at war, the US Marines (the military) are at war. America is at the mall." A sad commentary but true...
and a subject matter for another thread.

Again, I salute you Sir for your military service to our nation.

Respectfully.

"You are entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to your own facts."
Tip O'Neill

In our entire history?? Come on man, an elite team  took out one man which was a great thing.  Saddam was another one man.  Yes what about Hiroshima and Nagasaki or the battle of the bulge and I could go on and on.  

[Paxton]

BIG--T ;
Sir; I'd suppose that leaving the word "Arguably" out of your emphasis of my sentence does not really matter to you for context.  ???
Where I come from that is called intellectual dishonesty…. a small point. Just sayin…

Notwithstanding, I defer to your expansive knowledge of American military history. Certainly greater than mine. 

Respectfully,

"They're just words. And words alone don't really mean anything.
It's what you feel and what you believe when you say them that matter."
Dana Reinhardt
 (How to Build a House)

RIDE SAFE

[Skinhead]

The reason for my post in reply#129 above, wasn't to take credit away from Obama for making THE CALL, or authorizing the mission to take out Bin Lame One, but to point out his politicizing of an event that he claimed we couldn't know the details of because it would be "spiking the football", but now that his popularity is failing, it's suddenly ok to flaunt it.  It also points out his tendency to flip flop, close Gitmo vs. obtain info from the detainees there, Procsecute Bush administration members for torturing detainees vs. using the information gained from interrogation, he detests the military, wants vets to pay for their health insurance, but the success of their mission makes him look good, so lets run with it.

It was his administration who prosecuted the Navy SEALS for giving a terrorist a bloody lip.

The men of SEAL team six, originally organized and trained by Richard Marcinko, not Obama ("I put together SEAL Team 6 to kill Bin Laden") follow orders from their chain of command, in this case their commander in chief, Obama.  Even though he doesn't support them, they will follow his orders.  THEY deserve our respect, and I must admit, I respect Obama for having the stones to give the order and accept the responsibility of doing so.  I'm just glad the mission was a success so that Obama didn't have to use one of our brave warriors as a scapegoat, should the mission have failed.

I think Col. Schreiber's intentions were to remind the voters of who GOT Bin Laden and rightfully deserves the credit, and who merely gave them permission to get him.

[BIG--T]

The reason for my post in reply#129 above, wasn't to take credit away from Obama for making THE CALL, or authorizing the mission to take out Bin Lame One, but to point out his politicizing of an event that he claimed we couldn't know the details of because it would be "spiking the football", but now that his popularity is failing, it's suddenly ok to flaunt it.  It also points out his tendency to flip flop, close Gitmo vs. obtain info from the detainees there, Procsecute Bush administration members for torturing detainees vs. using the information gained from interrogation, he detests the military, wants vets to pay for their health insurance, but the success of their mission makes him look good, so lets run with it.

It was his administration who prosecuted the Navy SEALS for giving a terrorist a bloody lip.

The men of SEAL team six, originally organized and trained by Richard Marcinko, not Obama ("I put together SEAL Team 6 to kill Bin Laden") follow orders from their chain of command, in this case their commander in chief, Obama.  Even though he doesn't support them, they will follow his orders.  THEY deserve our respect, and I must admit, I respect Obama for having the stones to give the order and accept the responsibility of doing so.  I'm just glad the mission was a success so that Obama didn't have to use one of our brave warriors as a scapegoat, should the mission have failed.

I think Col. Schreiber's intentions were to remind the voters of who GOT Bin Laden and rightfully deserves the credit, and who merely gave them permission to get him.

I agree 100%! 

[BIG--T]

BIG--T ;
Sir; I'd suppose that leaving the word "Arguably" out of your emphasis of my sentence does not really matter to you for context.  ???
Where I come from that is called intellectual dishonesty…. a small point. Just sayin…

Notwithstanding, I defer to your expansive knowledge of American military history. Certainly greater than mine. 

Respectfully,

"They're just words. And words alone don't really mean anything.
It's what you feel and what you believe when you say them that matter."
Dana Reinhardt
 (How to Build a House)

RIDE SAFE

WOW! When when I grow up I hope I'll be just as smart as YOU!!! 

[musclehead]

playing the race card, one of the detaining officers was black 

So?

As has already been pointed out here (many, many times) black people are some of the most racist humans you will come across. Right?

so? some not all, just like whites, asians and anyothers you'd like to mention. so?

so? sew?   

[BIG--T]

playing the race card, one of the detaining officers was black 

So?

As has already been pointed out here (many, many times) black people are some of the most racist humans you will come across. Right?

so? some not all, just like whites, asians and anyothers you'd like to mention. so?

so? sew?   

Yep racist come in ALL colors, but the media always portrays whites as being racist!!  It was on the news last night that whites will be the minority in 4 years. I think we already are the minority. The latinos are now the #1 minority followed by the blacks. I bet a lot of minorities haven't participated in a survey, no taxes and invisible to the goverment. 

[musclehead]

playing the race card, one of the detaining officers was black 

So?

As has already been pointed out here (many, many times) black people are some of the most racist humans you will come across. Right?

so? some not all, just like whites, asians and anyothers you'd like to mention. so?

so? sew?   

Yep racist come in ALL colors, but the media always portrays whites as being racist!!  It was on the news last night that whites will be the minority in 4 years. I think we already are the minority. The latinos are now the #1 minority followed by the blacks. I bet a lot of minorities haven't participated in a survey, no taxes and invisible to the goverment. 

it might take longer then that, remember all the planned parenthood establishments are in the 'hood'

[The Anvil]

playing the race card, one of the detaining officers was black 

So?

As has already been pointed out here (many, many times) black people are some of the most racist humans you will come across. Right?

so? some not all, just like whites, asians and anyothers you'd like to mention. so?

so? sew?   

I need a pulling thread?  ???

[Serk]

playing the race card, one of the detaining officers was black 

So?

As has already been pointed out here (many, many times) black people are some of the most racist humans you will come across. Right?

so? some not all, just like whites, asians and anyothers you'd like to mention. so?

so? sew?   

I need a pulling thread?  ???

You could probably stand to have a few of your threads pulled... Close enough? 

[Willow]

I need a pulling thread?  ???

"A needle pulling thread ..."

Thanks a lot!  Now I've got a novice nun in my head for the afternoon.   ???

[musclehead]

playing the race card, one of the detaining officers was black 

So?

As has already been pointed out here (many, many times) black people are some of the most racist humans you will come across. Right?

so? some not all, just like whites, asians and anyothers you'd like to mention. so?

so? sew?   

I need a pulling thread?  ???

you can't pull my thoughts together I'm too scatterbrained