Obama's Literary Agent '91 Booklet:Born in Kenya raised in Indonesia and Hawaii

[98valk]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii

Breitbart News has obtained a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which touts Obama as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

The booklet, which was distributed to "business colleagues" in the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton & Dystel.

It also promotes Obama's anticipated first book, Journeys in Black and White--which Obama abandoned, later publishing Dreams from My Father instead.

Obama’s biography in the booklet is as follows (image and text below):

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii

The parade of authors alongside Obama in the booklet includes politicians, such as former Speaker of the House Tip O’Neill; sports legends, such as Joe Montana and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar; and numerous Hollywood celebrities.

The reverse side of the page that features Barack Obama includes former Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader and early-1990s "boy band" pop sensation New Kids On the Block.

[..]

Cat.

Meet pigeons.

[Clark]

WHERE'S OUR LEAD KOOLAID DRINKERS?? ANVILLLLL,, AND WHOSE THAT DUDE FROM PALM SPRINGS???

[bscrive]

You guys down there put too much emphasis on the president needing to be born in the US.  Up here we don't care if the Prime Minister was born elsewhere.  They can also be Prime Minister for as many terms as they can get elected.  Works for us and we don't worry about someone not born in Canada gaining power.

Face it, even if someone had ironclad proof that he was not born in the US, it seems most people don't care and they would probably amend the rules to allow non US born individuals to be president.  They can already be a govenor.

[Valker]

"They" CAN amend the rules, but the rules are the Constitution, and amending it is a rather difficult proposition. Not enough people would support it.

[donaldcc]

   Booooring! some people will never give up.

[RDAbull]

   Booooring! some people will never give up.

So which lie is worse, the one to the publishers to try to get something for nothing on a book of lies or the ones to the American people to be come the president of this once great country?

[The Anvil]

Breitbart! 

Some 11th grader probably made it on desktop publishing software and is punking that dope (assuming it even exists).

I love it. Breitbart claims he has this thing and that it's real and now rational, seasoned people who've seen too many debunked 9/11 theories and viral emails and fake pictures of eagles on headstones are just supposed to be all thunderstruck like he pulled the original stone tablet fifteen (crash!) TEN commandments out of his ass with flaming script. Please.

Can we just have this disclaimer for our boy CA's threads?

[tank_post142]

You know Jamie, sometimes you can be a real pain in the ass. but you got style brother and that counts alot !!  

[tank_post142]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/born-kenya-obama-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991-214423507.html

 my question is: why didn't  he say he was born in Spain or Peru or Kazakhstan why did he pick Kenya?

[The Anvil]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/born-kenya-obama-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991-214423507.html

 my question is: why didn't  he say he was born in Spain or Peru or Kazakhstan why did he pick Kenya?

Maybe because his father wasn't Borat but was in fact Kenyan?

[Skinhead]

You guys down there put too much emphasis on the president needing to be born in the US.  Up here we don't care if the Prime Minister was born elsewhere.  They can also be Prime Minister for as many terms as they can get elected.  Works for us and we don't worry about someone not born in Canada gaining power.

Face it, even if someone had ironclad proof that he was not born in the US, it seems most people don't care and they would probably amend the rules to allow non US born individuals to be president.  They can already be a govenor.

A non-citizen could probably do as good if not a much better job than the clown we have currently.  The point is if he is not a natural born citizen, he violated the constitution which he swore to abide by, and he lied about it to the American people. 

But it's not like he gave a kid a hair cut 50 years ago....

[bscrive]

Here is what we do with our Prime Ministers when we don't like them, we satirize them.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/05/17/nude-painting-of-harper-raises-eyebrows

[Chrisj CMA]

I would like to visit the Whitehouse someday......but I dont want to visit Obama in the Whitehouse.  If we impeach him and put him in prison, I could visit the Whitehouse and I would visit Obama in prison......would be a great ride.  See now its bike related

I bet I could get a couple Valkyrie Riders to go with me

And yes I believe he was born in Kenya and his whole identity was perpetrated on America with an agenda to change The United States of America into a Socialist country, so flame me I dont care, you can believe what YOU want to believe.....they havent made that a crime YET!

[Romeo]

You guys down there put too much emphasis on the president needing to be born in the US.  Up here we don't care if the Prime Minister was born elsewhere.  They can also be Prime Minister for as many terms as they can get elected.  Works for us and we don't worry about someone not born in Canada gaining power.

Face it, even if someone had ironclad proof that he was not born in the US, it seems most people don't care and they would probably amend the rules to allow non US born individuals to be president.  They can already be a govenor.

Face this, In America, we have a constitution that most of us, at least, still cherish and believe in. It really doesn't matter to us how folks from other countries think things should be. Our founders were pretty smart guys overall. Just as an aside, I am from Michigan, we just endured a governor who happened to born in Canada. Probably the worst Governor in the history of the state, just sayin'

[Robert]

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[G-Man]

IMHO, and ONLY mho, I feel that it's not enough to just be born here.  I feel that one should also be raised here in order to experience the "American" way of life, no matter what that may have been to you.  Whether it was some fancy prep schools or a kid running around on the streets of NYC, raised by hippies in southern California or yuppies in Vermont, it is an "American" experience.  And no matter which "American" experience you had, there was a common thread of showing allegiance to this country by reciting the Pledge or singing the Anthem.  We learned it's history in our schools (we can all criticize what was and was not taught), how it's government was formed and how it is supposed be run.  We lived through things together such as war, recessions, depressions, sporting events, entertainmant, news happenings, etc,  These things spanned class, race, religion and were experienced by Americans.  If you grew up outside the country, you didn't experience these things with us.  You didn't experience the pride, or the anger, or the courage, or the fear, that Americans shared together.

A kid growing up in another country, when I grew up here, didn't sit in his classroom and watch an American walk on the moon, or go to a ball game and sing the Anthem with 50,000 other Americans, or stand in awe at Lincoln's foot in the memorial, or any other thing that Americans do and share.

I feel our allegiances are cultivated very early on in our lives.  You can see this throughout our immigration history.  Folks coming here for the first time generally congregate in the same neighborhoods where their specific cultures have a demonstrative presence.  Assimilation by these first generation immigrants is usually minimal and their allegiances are elsewhere (I see this all the time in the Jamaican and West African communities, even though they came here because there are no opportunities there).  However, the second generation finds themselves branching out more, intermarrying, joining the service, singing the Anthem, etc.

[Chrisj CMA]

IMHO, and ONLY mho, I feel that it's not enough to just be born here.  I feel that one should also be raised here in order to experience the "American" way of life, no matter what that may have been to you.  Whether it was some fancy prep schools or a kid running around on the streets of NYC, raised by hippies in southern California or yuppies in Vermont, it is an "American" experience.  And no matter which "American" experience you had, there was a common thread of showing allegiance to this country by reciting the Pledge or singing the Anthem.  We learned it's history in our schools (we can all criticize what was and was not taught), how it's government was formed and how it is supposed be run.  We lived through things together such as war, recessions, depressions, sporting events, entertainmant, news happenings, etc,  These things spanned class, race, religion and were experienced by Americans.  If you grew up outside the country, you didn't experience these things with us.  You didn't experience the pride, or the anger, or the courage, or the fear, that Americans shared together.

A kid growing up in another country, when I grew up here, didn't sit in his classroom and watch an American walk on the moon, or go to a ball game and sing the Anthem with 50,000 other Americans, or stand in awe at Lincoln's foot in the memorial, or any other thing that Americans do and share.

I feel our allegiances are cultivated very early on in our lives.  You can see this throughout our immigration history.  Folks coming here for the first time generally congregate in the same neighborhoods where their specific cultures have a demonstrative presence.  Assimilation by these first generation immigrants is usually minimal and their allegiances are elsewhere (I see this all the time in the Jamaican and West African communities, even though they came here because there are no opportunities there).  However, the second generation finds themselves branching out more, intermarrying, joining the service, singing the Anthem, etc.

Right on GMan, and I personally would add.......military service (at least 2 or 4 years) with actual in uniform daily responsibilites....you know you actually were assigned a duty station and had to report to duty EVERY day until the job was done.......it wasnt good enough to just pe PRESENT you had to achieve results, you were graded, rewarded, and disciplined based on your performance.   Ya that kind of military experience should be required before one can be the Commander in Chief of the Military

[Clark]

   Booooring! some people will never give up.

thats the guy.. THATS HIM RIGHT THERE

[..]

IMHO, and ONLY mho, I feel that it's not enough to just be born here.  I feel that one should also be raised here in order to experience the "American" way of life, no matter what that may have been to you.  Whether it was some fancy prep schools or a kid running around on the streets of NYC, raised by hippies in southern California or yuppies in Vermont, it is an "American" experience.  And no matter which "American" experience you had, there was a common thread of showing allegiance to this country by reciting the Pledge or singing the Anthem.  We learned it's history in our schools (we can all criticize what was and was not taught), how it's government was formed and how it is supposed be run.  We lived through things together such as war, recessions, depressions, sporting events, entertainmant, news happenings, etc,  These things spanned class, race, religion and were experienced by Americans.  If you grew up outside the country, you didn't experience these things with us.  You didn't experience the pride, or the anger, or the courage, or the fear, that Americans shared together.

A kid growing up in another country, when I grew up here, didn't sit in his classroom and watch an American walk on the moon, or go to a ball game and sing the Anthem with 50,000 other Americans, or stand in awe at Lincoln's foot in the memorial, or any other thing that Americans do and share.

I feel our allegiances are cultivated very early on in our lives.  You can see this throughout our immigration history.  Folks coming here for the first time generally congregate in the same neighborhoods where their specific cultures have a demonstrative presence.  Assimilation by these first generation immigrants is usually minimal and their allegiances are elsewhere (I see this all the time in the Jamaican and West African communities, even though they came here because there are no opportunities there).  However, the second generation finds themselves branching out more, intermarrying, joining the service, singing the Anthem, etc.

Wow what a lot of assumptions there G-Man.

At age 7 - 11 I was listening to American Forces Radio trying to understnd the strange game of American football.

At age 8, I with friends, used to hang around the US Army tanks and other armored vehicles parked up at NATO firing range near Paderborn Germany. I was showered with C Rations, metal lapel badges and other cloth insigia.

At age 8 my parents were frequent shoppers at the local PX (father in British Army).

At age 10 1/2 I sat in a room of adults and kids. Not a dry eye amongst the adutls as we watched and lsitened to the news about President Kennedy's assaination.

At age 16 I sat with 35 other shcool boys watching a 10" TV with a flcikering picture of the crazy Americans walking on the moon.

At ages 11 -16 whilst at boarding school in England I received a box of American comics every month from my parents.

At age 40 I made a life changing decisoin to leave a great job and move to the USA. NO, I DON'T LIVE IN AN ENGLISH GHETTO.

I could mention many other events from my fomative years but I think you'll understand that your assumptions can be quite easily disproved.

[Ramjet]

                           
                           

[Skinhead]

I agree with G-man, and Paul, I don't believe his intention was to slight immigrants, but at the risk of putting words in his mouth, I believe he meant that it would be prefferable to have a president born and raised in the US, not born in the US and raised in foreign countries, which could be anti American, and anti American way of life.  If the constitution WERE changed to allow a non-US born citizen to be president, it should require XX number of years residency to be eligible.

I'm sure when G-man wrote his post it wasn't to cast aspersions on the naturalized citizens of this great country.

And Chrisj CMA, I would love to go on that ride with you.  I also like the idea of requireing military service.

[GiG]

Britman for President!
Paul will have us all riding sportbikes on the left side in no time!  

CHEERS!

[Chrisj CMA]

ACTUALLY G-MAN YOU'VE PISSED ME OFF WITH YOUR HIGH AND MIGHTY IMMIGRANTS AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO LIVE IN THE USA.

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I didnt hear him say anyone wasnt good enough to live in the US.......I heard, it is important to have an American as the President, maybe you didnt like how he defined being an American, but I didnt notice any intent to disparage anyone

[donaldcc]

  Oh look, I think I just saw a "BIRTHER" looking for clues. 



Those people will believe anything. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/obama-birthers_n_1526222.html?1337309704&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing5%7Cdl5%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D162149

  However, the woman who wrote Obama's biography in the pamphlet said Thursday that she had misidentified Obama's place of birth.

"This was nothing more than a fact-checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time," Miriam Goderich, who worked for the literary agency Acton & Dystel, told Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii."  

[Trynt]

Breitbart!  

Some 11th grader probably made it on desktop publishing software and is punking that dope (assuming it even exists).

I love it. Breitbart claims he has this thing and that it's real and now rational, seasoned people who've seen too many debunked 9/11 theories and viral emails and fake pictures of eagles on headstones are just supposed to be all thunderstruck like he pulled the original stone tablet fifteen (crash!) TEN commandments out of his ass with flaming script. Please.

Can we just have this disclaimer for our boy CA's threads?

FYI Andrew Breitbart Died March 1st.  So unless you really do believe in life after death, no one is punking him.

Bald Eagles are a common sight in MN. They are scavengers (they can often can be seen picking through freshly spread manure) that prefer fish if they can find it. The cemetery at Fort Snelling, where the eagle photo was taken,  sits precisely adjacent to the confluence of the Mississippi and Minnesota Rivers. Eagles consistently frequent the area. The photo was examined by and published in MN's foremost newspaper. Other photos taken the same day in, in the same place by the same photographer show other eagles. The paper released a statement saying they have no reason to doubt the authenticity of the photo. The afore mentioned doesn't prove the photo is "real".  But I makes me believe it to be. I have more faith in that than the "fake as Hulk Hogan's tits" expert you pulled out of your ass.

I believe Obama was born in Hawaii. I think the booklet might have been attempt by the literary agent to create a more interesting and sympathetic narrative for Obama as an author. Similar to Elizabeth Warren claiming minority status as a Cherokee.

[donaldcc]

Right on GMan, and I personally would add.......military service (at least 2 or 4 years) with actual in uniform daily responsibilites....you know you actually were assigned a duty station and had to report to duty EVERY day until the job was done.......it wasnt good enough to just pe PRESENT you had to achieve results, you were graded, rewarded, and disciplined based on your performance.   Ya that kind of military experience should be required before one can be the Commander in Chief of the Military

  And would that have precluded GW Bush from serving as president??  ???

  Glad you guys didn't write the Constitution.

[Chrisj CMA]

Right on GMan, and I personally would add.......military service (at least 2 or 4 years) with actual in uniform daily responsibilites....you know you actually were assigned a duty station and had to report to duty EVERY day until the job was done.......it wasnt good enough to just pe PRESENT you had to achieve results, you were graded, rewarded, and disciplined based on your performance.   Ya that kind of military experience should be required before one can be the Commander in Chief of the Military

  And would that have precluded GW Bush from serving as president??  ???

  Glad you guys didn't write the Constitution.

I do believe old GW would have met muster..........and even if not...that doesnt make military service before leading the military a bad thing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy

[donaldcc]

  sort of agree Chris.  Experience is ususally good for any task, especially when working on the bike.

 For a president I could argue both ways.  He should certainly be a "diplomat" many times working on complicated world and US issues.  he needs to be prepared to use "force", meaning our military when necessary.  I could envision a president with a long careeer and immersion in the military to lack those "diplomatic" skill necessary.  and someonne without that experience might lean away from "necessary" force.

  I think we need a smart person who will strive every day to do what is best for us and our country.  Where is that person??


  Maybe I should run for president.    Or maybe not, I just looked in my closet.

[musclehead]

ok one more time...... Obama's mom is American, that makes him American (assuming that the nationality she chose for him) I was born in Germany, doesn't make me German does it? (although I really like their beer  )

impeachment, although there are some instances that are hinky to say the least, is never gonna happen. how are impeachment proceedings going to go forward, investigated by whom?

Andrew Breibart is dead, let's be nice now! I don't say nasty things about Ted Kennedy do I?

changing the written rules about who can or cannot be the prez is not something we should be tinkering with in my opinion.

that's my position and I'm sticking to it!

[..]

ACTUALLY G-MAN YOU'VE PISSED ME OFF WITH YOUR HIGH AND MIGHTY IMMIGRANTS AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO LIVE IN THE USA.

(Edit - text removed).

I didnt hear him say anyone wasnt good enough to live in the US.......I heard, it is important to have an American as the President, maybe you didnt like how he defined being an American, but I didnt notice any intent to disparage anyone

OK. I'm sorry G-man.

[G-Man]

I agree with G-man, and Paul, I don't believe his intention was to slight immigrants, but at the risk of putting words in his mouth, I believe he meant that it would be prefferable to have a president born and raised in the US, not born in the US and raised in foreign countries, which could be anti American, and anti American way of life.  If the constitution WERE changed to allow a non-US born citizen to be president, it should require XX number of years residency to be eligible.

I'm sure when G-man wrote his post it wasn't to cast aspersions on the naturalized citizens of this great country.

And Chrisj CMA, I would love to go on that ride with you.  I also like the idea of requireing military service.

Thank you, yes, I wasn't trying to slight anyone or anything.  And I never, in any of my posts, say ALL people, or ALL things are a certain way.  And I did say, a few times, that it was my opinion.

Britman, while you did hang around with, watched TV with, watched sports, etc, you yourself said you watched the "crazy Americans".  Though you saw the same thing we saw, you experienced it differently.   I watch the Superbowl every year and it's a very different experience for me when a NY team is playing. 

And my wife, the Carribean Queen, left Jamaica when she was 18, is now a very successful nurse who owns two homes and doesn't live in a Ghetto, but when she and her family came here they did settle in a predominantly West Indian community, went to a church where everyone was from the same Parish in Jamaica, etc.   My step-daughter's father is from Nigeria, he lives in Elmont, NY where there is a large West African community.   I never said that the huddled masses were shoved into tenements, that's not EVERYONE's immigration experience.  I didn't say everyone came here broke.

Seems you made a lot of assumptions and what you say are my assumptions.

No problem, brother, I know we're usually on the same side of the coin.   

[G-Man]

ACTUALLY G-MAN YOU'VE PISSED ME OFF WITH YOUR HIGH AND MIGHTY IMMIGRANTS AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO LIVE IN THE USA.

(Edit - text removed).

I didnt hear him say anyone wasnt good enough to live in the US.......I heard, it is important to have an American as the President, maybe you didnt like how he defined being an American, but I didnt notice any intent to disparage anyone

OK. I'm sorry G-man.

You've been IM'd Britman

Nevermind, deleted it before I hit send....

[The Anvil]

Pretty soon being Hawaiian won't be "American enough" or have imparted enough of an "American experience" to qualify. I just get a kick out of how some people (who have often never even ventured far beyond their own county lines) are taking it upon themselves to decide what "REAL America" is.

And the mandatory military service requirement idea is asinine. Some people legitimately cannot (for physical reasons) serve in the military. And like it or not it's still a choice (it IS America). This should not disqualify someone who might otherwise be firmly qualified.

I like how people try and trump Breitbart's bloated corpse with another mentally crippled man in Sheriff Joe. 

[Chrisj CMA]

Pretty soon being Hawaiian won't be "American enough" or have imparted enough of an "American experience" to qualify. I just get a kick out of how some people (who have often never even ventured far beyond their own county lines) are taking it upon themselves to decide what "REAL America" is.

And the mandatory military service requirement idea is asinine. Some people legitimately cannot (for physical reasons) serve in the military. And like it or not it's still a choice (it IS America). This should not disqualify someone who might otherwise be firmly qualified.

I like how people try and trump Breitbart's bloated corpse with another mentally crippled man in Sheriff Joe.  

Anvil you could be right about the Hawaiian thing....Hawaii is trying to break from the Union and be their own whatever they would call it.  So if they ever do, then you would be right.  

I wonder how you know just how everyone has traveled in their life........seems strange you know who has been outside their own county lines and who hasnt.

As far as the military......most people I know that were in the military believe the president should be a veteran, but I agree that is a matter of opinion.  

As the rules are now (obviously) military service is not required, but I would only hope that no experience means more relying on those that do...we are going to see the catastophic results of this guy who has no clue but thinks he knows best as he desimates the military and then we all will be asking how in the world did we let such an unqualified person make such huge changes to things he doesnt care about or even understand

[donaldcc]

  out of iraq, getting out of afghanistan, bin laden is fishfood.  seems OK to me.  

[musclehead]

Pretty soon being Hawaiian won't be "American enough" or have imparted enough of an "American experience" to qualify. I just get a kick out of how some people (who have often never even ventured far beyond their own county lines) are taking it upon themselves to decide what "REAL America" is.

And the mandatory military service requirement idea is asinine. Some people legitimately cannot (for physical reasons) serve in the military. And like it or not it's still a choice (it IS America). This should not disqualify someone who might otherwise be firmly qualified.

I like how people try and trump Breitbart's bloated corpse with another mentally crippled man in Sheriff Joe. 

try moving to Hawaii and become a beach bum, the locals will not exactly welcome you with open arms. I heard a story about a homeless guy that needed an airline ticket to Seattle for a siblings funeral, one of the local business people bought him a one way ticket gratis.

[musclehead]

I like how people try and trump Breitbart's bloated corpse with another mentally crippled man in Sheriff Joe. 

someday I'll make some rude nasty post mortem comment about Ted Kennedy and I'll get ripped for it. I however want you to remember your remark just now.

[tank_post142]

" out of iraq, getting out of afghanistan, bin laden is fishfood.  seems OK to me "

Nixon got us out of Vietnam.

[98valk]

it is more about his dual citizenship that makes him ineligible to be president according to the constitution and the age of his mother and how many yrs she was in the country.
http://thesavagemichael.com/presidentdualcitizenship.html

"However, in the attempt to debunk the Obama birth-certificate controversy, the State Department author confirmed Obama was a dual citizen of the U.K. and the U.S. from 1961 to 1963 and a dual citizen of Kenya and the U.S. from 1963 to 1982, because his father was a Kenyan citizen when Obama was born in 1961.

In a number of court cases challenging Obama’s eligibility, dual citizenship has been raised as a factor that could compromise his “natural born” status under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution. The cases argue dual citizenship would make Obama ineligible even if documentary evidence were shown the public, such as the hospital-issued long-form birth certificate that indicates the place of his birth and the name of the attending physician."

http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/state-dept-confirms-obamas-dual-citizenship/