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9 PM....for you folks that at going on the Return to Hillbilly Highways Ride this may interesting to you, because we will be riding deep into Appalachia where some of these events took place...its a 3 part movie, starring Kevin Costner. I saw some of the previews and it looks pretty interesting so I thought I past is on..  |
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 05:47:37 PM » |
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Got it set to record all three nights in case I fall asleep at the switch tonight.  |
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2012, 05:47:47 PM » |
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Plan on watching |
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2012, 06:17:32 PM » |
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On the History Channel huh?
So is this about the real, historical Hatfield's and McCoy's
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the Alien Hatfields and McCoys and their feuding, end of the world prophecies and the government cover up of their Alien weaponry and beer can pyramids?
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2012, 06:19:58 PM » |
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On the History Channel huh?
So is this about the real, historical Hatfield's and McCoy's
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the Alien Hatfields and McCoys and their feuding, end of the world prophecies and the government cover up of their Alien weaponry and beer can pyramids?
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2012, 06:52:50 PM » |
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my first wife's maiden name was McCoy, and she was born in a two room shack in W. Virginia, the youngest of 12 ,daughter of a coal miner. I'm watching,,,,
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2012, 07:06:42 PM » |
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Too late for me. I have the DVR set for all 3 nights so I can watch them during the daytime.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2012, 07:08:40 PM » |
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been watching it an hour now and seems pretty interesting if based upon the true story of what supposedly happened. Seems to me the Hatfield's uncle started it all by killing a McCoy along with another Hatfield stealing a McCoy's pig. Also got it recorded just in case I snooze later on one of the next 3 nights. Plus, Kevin Costner, a Hatfield, was a deserter in the Civil War, or so this story goes on TV.
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2012, 08:29:32 PM » |
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2012, 08:34:02 PM » |
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Got it recorded on the DVR...watched the first episode tonight but hated all the commercials so I'll probably watch parts 2 and 3 on the DVR and scan through the garbage. So far, seems pretty interesting and well acted...having a "little" trouble understanding some of the dialog so maybe I'll have to watch it a couple of times....but that's just me  |
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2012, 08:45:19 PM » |
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 01:18:51 AM » |
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Good acting. Great way to tell the story... Looking forward to the second part. |
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2012, 04:41:14 AM » |
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In the first part they were showing battlefields in W.Va. and one was Droop Mt. where the kids from the 4 H club served us lunch at the Hillbilly Hwy. ride last year....I have some Hatfield's for neighbors, I wonder if they are watching?.. ..I really enjoy the history of the mountain people, I use to read the Foxfire books all the time and was amazed at some to the things I learned in them. |
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2012, 05:05:57 AM » |
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...Droop Mt. where the kids from the 4 H club served us lunch at the Hillbilly Hwy. ride last year.... I caught that Droop Mt part, Don, and remembered the 4H kids last year. Love soaking up the history |
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2012, 05:32:44 AM » |
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After watching this program for the last couple of nights, it seems that the McCoy's were not much on fighting there own battles, bringing in hired guns to fight a family feud, doesn't sound much like family to me. Interesting show for me because all of places they are mentioning are in the area that I live in and it comes along just when we have a ride going back into that part of the country.
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2012, 05:48:29 AM » |
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After watching this program for the last couple of nights, it seems that the McCoy's were not much on fighting there own battles, bringing in hired guns to fight a family feud, doesn't sound much like family to me. Interesting show for me because all of places they are mentioning are in the area that I live in and it comes along just when we have a ride going back into that part of the country.
I agree Don. Maybe "save the Family" for later ?  |
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2012, 08:52:04 PM » |
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I thought the first 2 episodes were better than the 3rd and last showing tonight. This last episode drug on and on and maybe just me, but tons more commercials and much slower action, not much going on. Interesting to see Randall McCoy (played by Bill Paxton) the man McCoy in the movie, seemed to lose his mind and got angrier as he got older and finally set fire to himself in the cabin while the main Hatfield, played by Kevin Costner, found peace and God at the end of his life and restful and at ease with himself, unlike Randall McCoy.
If you ask me, Jim Hatfield, the uncle, started it all by shooting a McCoy for no real good reason outside the bar and he was the one and ONLY who should've gotten killed and punished. Also, would've been interesting to see what the outcome of the feud would've been (if any fued at all) if the pretty boy blonde Hatfield was given permission by his dad, Kevin Costner, to marry Roxanne McCoy since they had a child together. It could've brought both families together??
I never saw it or missed it, but did the blonde Hatfield/Roxanne McCoy child die at birth or live afterwards and for how long?
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2012, 04:38:47 AM » |
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Died at about one year old. Must have missed it.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2012, 05:45:05 AM » |
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Yes and Jonsey Hatfield stopped by the casket to give his respects...
To the child he never got to see alive...
As he did when Roxanne passed, he stopped by the grave.. On his way to Oregon....
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2012, 09:53:23 AM » |
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Yes and Jonsey Hatfield stopped by the casket to give his respects...
To the child he never got to see alive...
As he did when Roxanne passed, he stopped by the grave.. On his way to Oregon....
A few years later he came back, stood trial was convicted and served time for his part in the death of the McCoy daughter. I found it interesting that they left out a couple of very big things. In the 1880s West Virginia and Kentucky were drug into the feud and almost went to war. State militias were called out. When the McCoy's bounty hunter went into West Virginia to get Hatfields to stand trial for the death of McCoy's daughter, the way he got them ended up in court. The US Supreme Court decided that the way a suspect was returned to a state for trial did not effect the prosecution's case. Afa the first McCoy victim getting killed, emotions were still running high in the years following the Way of Northern Aggression. From the research I did, he was the only McCoy that served in the Yankee Army. The rest along with the Hatfields fought for the Confederacy. Lots of families were split. My paternal grandmother's family was split down the middle and to my knowledge still don't speak to this day. You can't judge actions in the past by today's standards. Marty |
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2012, 10:00:20 PM » |
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They should have called it: "The Young Hatfields & the Restless McCoys" Better yet: "The Guiding Hatfield/McCoy Light"  How 'bout this: "Days of Our Feud"!  |
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2012, 08:03:54 AM » |
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, I use to read the Foxfire books all the time and was amazed at some to the things I learned in them.
I read a few foxfire books in school. Not sure if they were the same as the ones you read but these had 'old wives tales' remedies, how to make wine, live of the land kinda stuff. |
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2012, 03:26:54 PM » |
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These books were written by, if I remember correctly college students that went deep into Appalachia to record all the old time home remedies and folklore...planting by the signs and when is the best time to dig post holes, etc...that kinda stuff.....we have always planted by the signs, did you ever notice when you're digging post holes that sometimes you have more dirt then you need and other times there isn't enough? Has to do with the moon, I've tried a lot of what I learned, from making wood shingles to gelding horses in the right sign and most of the time they were right on....probably the same books you read..
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2012, 03:47:25 PM » |
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These books were written by, if I remember correctly college students that went deep into Appalachia to record all the old time home remedies and folklore...planting by the signs and when is the best time to dig post holes, etc...that kinda stuff.....we have always planted by the signs, did you ever notice when you're digging post holes that sometimes you have more dirt then you need and other times there isn't enough? Has to do with the moon, I've tried a lot of what I learned, from making wood shingles to gelding horses in the right sign and most of the time they were right on....probably the same books you read..
No.....it was High School students....Rabun County High....but it started in 1966 at Rabun Gap school which was public/private...the students interviewed their Grandparents and others in the community...as a way to learn English skills without the boring "normal" way it was always done before..... After a while, they started to publish Foxfire books that took some of those topics and went into more depth and did more interviews...... I was in Foxfire in the 80's..........I have a couple of published articles of my own.....and helped on a few.........and then the newer students interviewed me for the Foxfire 25 year book....... |
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2012, 03:56:27 PM » |
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I was in Foxfire.....I have a couple of published articles of my own.....and helped on a few.........and then the newer students interviewed me for the Foxfire 25 year book.......
Well that's very cool Stanley !!! I love my FF books .. Well there's really only one that I follow... The one that has all the Just plain living in it... That covers planting,haymaking ,so on a so fourth... |
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2012, 04:02:10 PM » |
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I was in Foxfire.....I have a couple of published articles of my own.....and helped on a few.........and then the newer students interviewed me for the Foxfire 25 year book.......
Well that's very cool Stanley !!! I love my FF books .. Well there's really only one that I follow... The one that has all the Just plain living in it... That covers planting,haymaking ,so on a so fourth... Some of the books had several topics/themes and some were more focused on one thing.....My interviews were in the Foxfire Magazines back in the 80's.....not all of the magazines were rolled into books......we were responsible for our own photography(mostly black and white back then).....we had our own dark room.....and back then, there wasn't fancy software to publish stuff on...computers were just in their "infancy".....it was a very valuable learning experience.....it helped me make A's in both my advanced English courses my Freshman year of college!...... |
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Here's the book I'm in.....the current students at THAT time interviewed those of us who had come before them and asked us about our experiences with Foxfire and what we learned..... I got to fly on Delta 2-3 times and rode Amtrak a couple of times also.......to give speeches in Syracuse and Rochester New York, Washington, DC, Maryland.....the Yankees LOVED to hear me speak....they'd ask me questions just to hear me talk...... ..... I got to stay in some fancy hotel rooms that cost $200+/night even back then.....and ate in some swanky steakhouses.....Country boy in the Big City stuff!!!...... http://www.amazon.com/Foxfire-Years-Celebration-Quarter-Century/dp/0385413467 |
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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2012, 05:16:08 PM » |
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we're poor people...we don't have cable or any of that fancy TV stuff
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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2012, 06:35:18 PM » |
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HELLO ALL,
Very interesting developments were talked about in the movie especially the town of Pikevillle, ky. This small town is the county seat and therefore the leaders in politics were mostly lawyers, judges, men for hire-for right price, jailers, sheriffs-both high and pocket deputies, constables, and of course-whiskey and ladies of the evening. There is not much changed except the drug scene is more prevalent a ripoff to medicare. Seems the more time changes things---the more they remain everywhere. I was somewhat preturbed that more lawyers were not mentioned that played MAJOR ROLES in Pike County history-Mingo County politics as well as Logan county was only mentioned just once. Anse Hatfields statue is in Saraann, Wv. with his back to Pike County. Roseanne is buried in the Chloe Creek cemetary overlooking Pikeville. and other members of the family is also buried ther as well. A lot of history about the fued is found all around the area for history buffs.
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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2012, 06:50:55 PM » |
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One of my favorite passages from the Foxfire books was from an interview with an elderly woman who had lived in the mountains all her life. They asked her what death meant to her and she went into a 1000 mile stare and after a minute or so said "It means I won't have to walk in the mud no more".
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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2012, 05:33:17 AM » |
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I really enjoyed the mini Series... It had really great acting by the top actors.. I was surprised to find out it was filmed in Romania !!! But then again to find an area in WV & KY that looked like the 1800's could be difficult to say the least.. And a holler that was uninhabited in today's age is well not going to happen.. But they did capture era well... IMHO I wouldn't mind getting the DVD ... That's for sure... |
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