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« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2012, 04:56:26 PM » |
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I've been a guitar player for 40 years (and I still ain't that good) and I would recommend that you get a guitar and a keyboard. Start on the keyboard and learn what notes are where and get some music theory education. I had a book by Sandy Feldstein that really cleared a lot of stuff up for me and taught me a lot. If you want to accompany yourself singing, a polyphonic instrument (more than one note at a time) is pretty much necessary so I would say guitar. As some have mentioned here, YouTube is a super resource, and the other day, I saw a bunch of good lessons on the Gibson guitar site. You can buy a very good guitar for a couple hundred bucks. Takamine, Yamaha, Fender, and Ovation brands come to mind.
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« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2012, 05:50:48 PM » |
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Why would you want to make someone feel useless and put someone down, to make you feel better about yourself??  5. You can make the bass player feel useless by just playing chord arpeggios with your left handAllright, I get it. Was just speaking from personal experience. Sofar for my feeble attempts at humor. No bassists were hurt during this exchange Martin |
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« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2012, 06:53:30 PM » |
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« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2012, 07:07:29 PM » |
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And in the spirit of insulting my fellow pickers:
What do you call someone that hangs out with musicians?
A drummer!! (rim shot here)
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« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2012, 08:15:59 PM » |
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Why would you want to make someone feel useless and put someone down, to make you feel better about yourself?? 5. You can make the bass player feel useless by just playing chord arpeggios with your left handAllright, I get it. Was just speaking from personal experience. Sofar for my feeble attempts at humor. No bassists were hurt during this exchange Martin If you were speaking from experience, you must have never had a good bassist. If you were trying to convey humor, put a smiley face or something up.  |
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« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2012, 08:18:39 PM » |
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Why would you want to make someone feel useless and put someone down, to make you feel better about yourself?? 5. You can make the bass player feel useless by just playing chord arpeggios with your left handAllright, I get it. Was just speaking from personal experience. Sofar for my feeble attempts at humor. No bassists were hurt during this exchange Martin If you were speaking from experience, you must have never had a good bassist. If you were trying to convey humor, put a smiley face or something up. Never mind. I give up |
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« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2012, 05:12:51 AM » |
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Why would you want to make someone feel useless and put someone down, to make you feel better about yourself?? 5. You can make the bass player feel useless by just playing chord arpeggios with your left handAllright, I get it. Was just speaking from personal experience. Sofar for my feeble attempts at humor. No bassists were hurt during this exchange Martin If you were speaking from experience, you must have never had a good bassist. If you were trying to convey humor, put a smiley face or something up. psssst....(whispering)...Martin is the bassist. That's why it was funny. |
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« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2012, 07:02:18 AM » |
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Some of this butt-hurtness probably stems from the fact that even though it should NOT be, music can be very competitive. I get the joke now but I've had a lot of musician friends who didn't appreciate the skill it takes to play other instruments and were vocal about it. But smileys do help. |
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« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2012, 10:58:23 AM » |
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Okay next question for those that play...
Do you play more than one kind of instrument? How many? Do the skills translate or is it an entirely different language?
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« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2012, 11:14:26 AM » |
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Okay next question for those that play...
Do you play more than one kind of instrument? How many? Do the skills translate or is it an entirely different language?
Some skills translate, others do not. Switching from guitar to bass (at least in terms of mechanics) is pretty easy for most. That said, I can always tell a bass player who's primary instrument is/was guitar and vice-versa. In fact, I can hear it in my own bass playing. It's a different approach. Not necessarily worse, just different. Guitar to drums? Not so much. They share little beyond the percussive element. Guitar to keys? Again, very different but at least they share actual melodic and harmonic notes. But Eddie VanHalen started as a piano player which hugely influenced his style of two-handed tapping and his phrasing. Reading music is the same. A Bb on sheet music is a Bb on any instrument. It's how you make it that's different. Also, some instruments are individually capable of true chords (guitar and keyboards for example) while others (trumpet) are not. |
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« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2012, 11:35:25 AM » |
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Okay next question for those that play...
Do you play more than one kind of instrument? How many? Do the skills translate or is it an entirely different language?
I think everything I know about chords and reading music and the major scale transfers back and forth from guitar to piano. You could probably write a whole book about what I don't know -Mike |
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« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2012, 11:38:19 AM » |
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I'm a guitar player. I also get by on anything with strings and frets because my left hand and right hand know their relationship and can manage to memorize pretty much any song, but that's it. I understand theory and what notes and chords are what on the guitar and can pick songs up on the fly, but not with the other instruments. I also play the piano a little. Once you get a grip on music theory which is pretty much built around a piano (actually the piano is built around the theory I guess), you will have a fighting chance on other instruments. Also it seems to me that everybody's a guitar player, and if you can hack at other instruments, you can get more work, and fill in when your bass player passes out |
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« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2012, 12:03:10 PM » |
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Having played mostly guitar and maybe 25% bass for a living, and after I learned to stop playing "lead" bass  I found that eventually, whichever I was playing gave me insight to the other. A major skill is to learn how to keep out of other players' way. Mucho cleaner!! Probably doesn't really answer your question Daniel, but at least I posted a pic of your sunburnt hand the other day!!  |
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« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2012, 02:44:38 PM » |
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 The driving my wife insane can now commence.... |
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« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2012, 03:01:37 PM » |
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Aaand - - - - - - He's OFF!!
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« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2012, 03:10:06 PM » |
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Why ask for advice if you're just going to completely disregard all of it?  |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
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« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2012, 03:14:59 PM » |
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Why ask for advice if you're just going to completely disregard all of it? That's just how I roll! (also have keyboard and piano I'm playing with) |
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« Reply #57 on: June 11, 2012, 05:57:16 PM » |
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That's just how I roll! I like your style. |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2012, 01:16:05 PM » |
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You go, Daniel, I bought your books, might as well buy your CD's! I'll keep doing karyoke on my bike with my mp3, nobody can hear it but me and the fatlady. Hoser |
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