Put on some ISO grips....problems

[bscrive]

I put on some Kuryakyn ISO grips on the valk yesterday or tried to.  The clutch side went on no problem but the glue for the throttle side set up too fast and the grip stopped about a 1/2" from the switch housing and is not aligned with the other grip.  I took the throttle side off and I am using acetone to try and loosen the glue as I was told to do by the Kuryakyn tech, but I cannot get the glue to release.  I have had it soaking in acetone for over 3hrs now and it still won't release.  I used the glue that came with the grips which is a gel super glue.  Any ideas guys?  My only other option is to cut it off the clutch side and buy some other grips that come with the throttle sleeve.  But then I am throwing away $80.  Fricken crap.

[Slvrvalk1]

I removed heated grips from my Concours 14 using rubbing alcohol.  I pried the grip up with a small screwdriver and shot some rubbing alcohol under the grip with a small syringe barrel.  It takes patience, but it worked well.

Dave

[rxvalk]

This may not be the best option. You could try working a very small screwdriver in between the grip and the throttle. I would be very gentle and methodical as you could break the plastic throttle piece. That is how I took my original grips off anyway.

[Quicksilver]

You could try methyl ethyl ketone. It's the glue used for putting plastic models together. It's not actually a glue, its a solvent that melts the plastic then it evaporates, its similar to acetone but goes after plastic. I've used it when molding plastic parts to clean up molds.

[michaelyoung254]

If the glue you're using is CA or cyanoacrylate there is a release agent for it that you should be able to find at a good woodworking store. If you don't have a local woodworking store, you can find it online at either Rockler, and Woodcraft.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=31048&site=ROCKLER

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2000346/1508/SuperSolvent-2-Ounces.aspx

[judd]

If I recall correctly I used  WD-40 and or Acetone, I removed the end cap and used a slim, fairly flexible Steak knife to gently work it off, as already stated a little patience is required to not damage the throttle sleeve or the grip rubber in the process. 

[BamaDrifter64]

+1

[JaysGone]

If none of the solvents work for you.
You might want to try some 600 grit emory cloth and very lightly rub the glue off.
Being carefull not to over"polish" the handle bars....
I used golf club grip tape rather then glue my throttle grips on.

[9Ball]

If none of the solvents work for you.
You might want to try some 600 grit emory cloth and very lightly rub the glue off.
Being carefull not to over"polish" the handle bars....
I used golf club grip tape rather then glue my throttle grips on.

the grip is stuck on the throttle sleeve, not the handlebars.

The throttle sleeves do get a bit brittle with age and any mechanical prying may actually break the sleeve.  Acetone does usually soften super glues and the advice above for the woodworker's solvent might be your best bet.  The trouble with the gel type superglue is that it is "gap filling" so you may not be getting the acetone to where it needs to dissolve the glue.

At this point you have little to lose and may end up either buying a new throttle sleeve or getting the Kuryakyn grips with the integral sleeve.  Be careful with some of the chemicals as they might attach the plastic or the rubber in the new grips.

The only advice if you ever get to do this again is to make sure that you align the grip where you want the rubber pads to remain, push the grip home swiftly and forcefully...if you hesitate or stop, then this is what happens.

Sorry for your dilemma...good luck.

[Jess from VA]

This is why I always use RTV silicone as my grip glue; takes overight to harden up. 

[Chrisj CMA]

I would think three hours of soaking in acetone would have ruined that thottle sleeve anyway.  If it is the right kind of plastic ascetone turns it to jelly............I would patiently work a small blade around ane deeper athen gently prying and probing and prying and afew and eentually it will come off if you dont give up

[Jess from VA]

An ice pick is the best tool.  Wiggle it in gently, then slide the spray lube skinny nozzle in beside it and spray, and wiggle some more.  Go around the grip, it will come off.

[rayjay]

If you have an air compressor you can use a long thin nozzle to shoot air under the grip to loosen it. We used this method in the shop to remove and put on grips.

rj

[bscrive]

I let the thing soak in acetone over night and it still will not release.  This morning I tried to twist the sleeve and I heard a crack.  It looks like the sleeve is too brittle now to use.  Now to see what Kuryakyn will do for me.  Anyone have any experience with them.  How are they for customer support?

[judd]

What would you expect from Kuryakyn, how is this any fault of theirs.  Just asking !!!  ???

[bscrive]

The fault with Kuryakyn is the glue they supply with the grips.  The one tube that I used on the clutch side seemed to be fine but the other tube must have had something wrong with it because it set up too fast.  They really should have a glue where you have some time to set the grips up.  They are in the business of supplying motorcycle parts.  I don't know about you but I am not always able to set things up perfect in less than 5 seconds.

Word of advise, if you buy some grips, follow Jess' advise and use RTV silicone.  That way you have some time to set the grips up.

Talked to Kuryakyn.  They will SELL me a single grip but I have to get a throttle sleeve through Honda.  How nice of them to not take any ownership in the crap they supply. 

[WamegoRob]

The fault with Kuryakyn is the glue they supply with the grips... must have had something wrong with it because it set up too fast... How nice of them to not take any ownership in the crap they supply.

I just installed the same grips last night, and after reading the instructions I was scared of the same thing happening... since it does say, in bold red letters:

"CAUTION!  The adhesive supplied sets up ALMOST INSTANTLY in the absence of air.  There is enough time to slide the grip into place, but once it stops moving,  it cannot be adjusted."

So I didn't completely coat the inside of the grips, just used some drops here and there.  I have every faith that I could pry them back off with a knife-screwdriver-icepick if needed.

Sorry things didn't work out for you, and good luck with the next one.

[bscrive]

Hey Rob,

It also says 'Take the second supplied tube of adhesive and apply a good amount of glue onto the throttle tube.'  I suspect that your grips may let go on you and probably at the worst time.  I decided that I am going to get another sleeve and follow Jess' advise and use silicone.

[PAVALKER]

I have heard some guys just use Golf Club Tape... no glue. 

[JaysGone]

If none of the solvents work for you.
You might want to try some 600 grit emory cloth and very lightly rub the glue off.
Being carefull not to over"polish" the handle bars....
I used golf club grip tape rather then glue my throttle grips on.

the grip is stuck on the throttle sleeve, not the handlebars.

The throttle sleeves do get a bit brittle with age and any mechanical prying may actually break the sleeve.  


I misread it for sure.
I did indeed crack mine too removing the older when putting on the new stock grips.
I honestly had forgoten that already.

[olddog1946]

When I installed the ISO grips on my bike, I used compressed air to remove the old grips, worked like a champ. It was winter time and the glue supplied was a pain in the tush and wouldn't set up til I borrowed a heated garage and let it set up over nite..then while in Peora Az and 100+ temps the grips fell off...ended up using gorilla glue or something like that and have been good ever since.

[salty1]

Sorry about your misfortune bscrive.    Your issue is exactly why I use Honda's grip glue. It takes time to cure but I can always get them off again with a little shot of WD 40 under the grip. Using acetone or methyl ethyl ketone is bad news for that throttle sleeve as you found out.

[BigBod]

I have heard some guys just use Golf Club Tape... no glue. 

I always use Golf Club tape, works a treat.

[quexpress]

Sorry about your misfortune bscrive.    Your issue is exactly why I use Honda's grip glue. It takes time to cure but I can always get them off again with a little shot of WD 40 under the grip. Using acetone or methyl ethyl ketone is bad news for that throttle sleeve as you found out.

We are on the same page! I always throw away the glue that is given with ISO grips, etc. I do not necessarily use Honda brand but use "generic grip glue" which can be found in many motorcycle shops.

[bscrive]

Well, Kuryakyn was no help so, I decided to order some Avon grips and remove the Kuryakyn ones.  The Avon grip comes with the sleeve so that works out good.  Looks like I will have to cut the metal on the clutch side grip to remove it when I put on the new grips.  I fixed the crack on the sleeve and put the grip back on the bike until I get my new set from Avon.  

I rode the bike to work this morning and I did not like the ISO grips anyways.  I find that they hurt my right hand and I was only riding for an hour.  Been at work now for an hour and the top part of my palm is still achy.  Anyone else had that problem?  Maybe it is just the position of the grip.

[Jess from VA]

Just an additional word on the RTV silicone, which I have used on multi bikes, forever.

It may begin to come a little loose in 12 to 18 months, on the throttle side only, from constant use/torque.  (because it is not really glue and remains soft and rubbery when set up)

It never gets entirely loose, but eventually you will notice the grip is turning slowly counter clockwise, in the direction of throttle use (my Kury throttle boss will begin to come down from 10 O'clock to 8-7 O'clock), and it may begin to come away (down) from the control housing, an 1/8 of an inch or so.  It still grips fine for throttle use and riding, and I can return the boss to 10 O'clock by twisting it against the stop, turning it clockwise, and push it back up to the control housing.  At the 2 year point, if it is moving too freely, I simply remove it, clean it up, and do it again.  I have never had one get so loose it won't work, or would come off the handlebar, without yanking it off.  

On install, put more glue in the grip than on the bottom of the bar.  As you slide it on, periodically wipe off the excess that builds up on the top of the grip so it doesn't get glued to the control housing.  You have a long time to work it, that's why I use it.

BTW, I do not believe you can buy just a throttle sleeve from Honda, you have to get the entire throttle grip assembly. 

[X Ring]

BTW, I do not believe you can buy just a throttle sleeve from Honda, you have to get the entire throttle grip assembly. 

You can't.  It comes with the stock grip installed.

Marty

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

This is why I always use RTV silicone as my grip glue; takes overight to harden up. 

And I will too from now on. Great idea. 

[cashman]

Man, I wish I would have found this before tonite!  I just cut the rubber out of the holes and slid the grip off.  Oh well, I guess thats $80.00 Ill never see again!

[Fritz The Cat]

I use Gorilla Glue. Never had a problem. Easy on, easy off and they stay put in between.

[KSDragonRider]

I had exactly the same problem. I was was able to get mine all but a quarter inch of where i wanted.  I never did like the  throttle lock that i had, so i went with one of these, and filled the gap.  I think it works and looks a ton better anyway.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Sound-Off-Recreational-MCVICO-Vista-Cruise-Control-Throttle-Lock-/220951202834?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3371b7cc12&vxp=mtr#ht_2419wt_1397

this is what was on my bike, and i disliked the idea of modifying it to fit the new grips, and thought it did not look nice anyway.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KURYAKYN-UNIVERSAL-THROTTLE-ASSIST-6218-CRUISE-CONTROL-THROTTLE-LOCK-FOR-7-8-1-/400315372157?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d34a7d27d&vxp=mtr

But to use the other style lock you have to ream out the inside to make it fit the 1 inch bars, and then a little fiddling to get it to mount properly.  When you get it, it looks great, you have the whole grip still looking good.  It needs about 1/4 to 3/8 inch gap to allow clearance, so if you have about a half inch, this could work out just right for you and not look bad in the end.


When i did mine, the clutch side seemed to stay wet enough to turn for about 2 min.  When i did the throttle side, i was going as fast as i could and got it on to the right spot, but then i could not turn it. so when you look at my bike parked, the grips are clocked different. It actually feels good in my hand when riding, but looks goofy to me.  Just not goofy enough for me to cut it off and waste 80 bucks or break the throttle tube and wait for a new one to come in from HDL

[Tropic traveler]

Give the clutch side grip a good HARD grip & twist & it should come off. Take off the throttle side sleeve & all then bust the plastic sleeve away one piece at a time from inside the grip to save the $80 Kury grips. If you don't like them at least you may be able to resell them for some of your $$ back. Sleeves are cheap from HDL.. get an extra.
I am using the same Kury Iso grips I bought 6 years ago on the '97. Sure enuff about every 12-18 months the silicone RTV gives up on the clutch side only requiring a clean up & reinstall. Had them so long that the chrome has rubbed off from use, over 55,000 miles.
Good Luck!

[cashman]

UPDATE:

Ok, I went to the Honda dealer nearest me (North End Cycle in Elkhart Indiana).  They had the ISO grips specifically for Valkyries.  So I bought them and I am here to tell you that they are much, much harder to get on.  I did resort to a very low tech and somewhat lowbrow method to get them on.  It is not perfect, but they are on and all is well for the moment!